[November 2016] Bitcoin Mining Datacenters by the Megawatt

[armedmilitia]

This is an index of publicly known industrial-scale mining operations across the globe.

Disclaimers:
Because I want to list as many things as possible, this thread has a low standard of proof. Some of the operators listed below may be unethical, scammy, nonexistent, or have rituals where they sacrifice innocent children--I don't care about that, I just want to make a list.

Note that there are likely many (secret) mines that aren't listed here.
Check out this thread instead if you're looking to host hardware.

Operational Mines:
60MW | BW/ANTPOOL | Unnamed | Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China
Note: Power draw is an estimate based off their claim of 100PH, I assumed 0.6W/GH given that this was Feb 2015. Any of you guys have information about this one?
Here's an interesting paper that explains perhaps why this large datacenter is in this region.
Source: http://qntra.net/2015/02/inside-the-bitcoin-mine-of-antpool-bw-com/

40MW | BITFURY | Tbilisi Technology Park Free Industrial Zone | Tbilisi, Georgia
Source: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20151211005837/en/BitFury-Launch-Energy-Efficient-Immersion-Cooling-Data

25MW | HAOBTC | Unnamed | Tibetan Autonomous Region, China
Note: Their official bitcointalk account has claimed a hashrate of 72PH and capacity of 25MW as of 2016-06-10.
Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1328580.msg15158126#msg15158126

25MW | Lee Group | Unnamed | Chengdu City, Sichuan province, China
Note: It was stated they their farm was expandable to 25MW about a year ago, so it's likely they are around the high end of that range by now.
Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934581.0

10MW | BITFURY | Unnamed | Gori, Georgia
Source: http://www.coindesk.com/bitfury-details-100-million-georgia-data-center/

10MW | C7 | "N-0.5 design" | Utah, USA
Source: http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2014/07/10/massive-bitcoin-mines-spring-up-in-warehouses/2/

6MW | Great North Data | Lab City | Labrador City, Labrador, Canada
Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1328580.msg16915395#msg16915395

>5MW | Verne Global | "Hybrid Data Center" | Kevlavik, Iceland
Note: This is where Genesis Mining runs their hardware (I think)
Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1328580.msg17010137#msg17010137

5MW | Hashrate.biz | Secret Name | Quebec, Canada
Source: PM from the owner, he had some pics that I wish I could post here.  

4MW | MegaBigPower | Unnamed | Washington State, USA
Note: This is the facility from this youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELA91d_mx80
Note 2: Although MBP claimed to be building a 32MW and 12MW mine, they never materialized
Source: http://megabigpower.com/themine
Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/jjXXCMW.png

4MW | Telco 214 | Unnamed | Labrador, Canada
Note: Some napkin math with blocks found from November 13th-27th puts this miner at ~22PH/s, which makes 4MW a plausible amount of capacity.
Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1328580.msg17010137#msg17010137

3MW | Zoomhash | Unnamed | USA
Note: This may be rented space in a larger datacenter.
Source: http://zoomhash.com/pages/hosting

1.3MW | ASICSPACE | Unnamed | Washington, USA
Source: http://www.asicspace.com/pictures-of-our-data-center/

>1MW | Great North Data | Goose Bay | Goose Bay, Labrador, Canada
Source: http://greatnorthdata.com/

>1MW | Hashplex | Unnamed | Washington/Seattle, USA (I need more data)
Source: https://hashplex.com/frequently-asked-questions/

>1MW | Oregon Mines | Unnamed | The Dalles, OR, USA
Source: https://www.oregonmines.com/

1MW | Bitcoin ASIC Hosting | Unnamed | Douglas County, WA, USA
Note: Second site is being spun up, so they will have greater capacity in coming months.
Source: http://www.bitcoinasichosting.com/

0.75MW| Toomin Brothers | Unnamed | Pacific Northwest, USA
Source: http://toom.im/

0.75MW | Hashrate.biz | Secret Name | Quebec, Canada
Source: PM from the owner, he had some pics that I wish I could post here.  

0.64MW| JeffColo | Unnamed | Portland, OR
Source: [Citation Needed]

0.58MW| Cryptominer Canada | DC0001 & DC0002 | 2x in Joliette, Quebec, Canada
Source: https://cryptominer.ca/page/hosting

Dead Mines:
20MW | KnC | Unnamed | Boden, Sweden
Note: KnC is bankrupt. It doesn't look like they're finding blocks anymore, so this facility is presumed dead.
Source: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3014471/bitcoin-miner-knc-is-planning-another-four-week-datacenter-build-out.html

20MW | KnC | Boden 2 |  Boden, Sweden
Note: KnC is bankrupt. It doesn't look like they're finding blocks anymore, so this facility is presumed dead.
Source: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/knc-miner-will-build-new-20mw-data-center-node-pole/

10MW | KnC | Unnamed | Boden, Sweden (probably)
Note: KnC is bankrupt. It doesn't look like they're finding blocks anymore, so this facility is presumed dead..
Source: http://www.allied-control.com/publications/Analysis_of_Large-Scale_Bitcoin_Mining_Operations.pdf

10MW | BlockC | Unnamed | San Francisco, CA, USA (probably)
Note: RIP BlockC. You never proved you actually had the hashrate, but you definitely proved you couldn't stay in business.
Source: blockc.co

3MW | Spondoolies/BTCS | Unnamed | North Carolina, USA
Note: RIP Spondoolies, this is probably shut down.

TL;DR: Hashrate is concentrated in China, Georgia, the Western US, and Northeastern Canada.

If you host 300KW or more of hardware, or know someone who does, feel free to post here! I could use some help.

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[valkir]

Nice idea. Will follow this thread to see where the power come from 

[ezeminer]

10MW | KnC | Unnamed | Sweden
Note: Does anyone know where in Sweden this is?

Is Sweden like near Antarctica or something?  

But awesome list. Crazy to see how many farms there are using that much power.

[adaseb]

What percentage of the overall MW do you think is with home/retail miners ?

[armedmilitia]

Since the OP I've dug up two more mines: Cryptominer Canada run by maximeAD and the Lee Group datacenter. I was considering adding genesis-mining but they provide no specs on their datacenter.

Is Sweden like near Antarctica or something?  

But awesome list. Crazy to see how many farms there are using that much power.

Yeah, but when you get down to it 128MW are owned by one entity--which also happens to be the entity that claims to have the most efficient chips. That's kinda scary!

What percentage of the overall MW do you think is with home/retail miners ?

Very little. Most hobbyist miners colocate now unless they can score power for less than $0.06/USD/kwh, otherwise they save money by letting other people take care of their hardware for them. I'd say (and this is a total guess) at most 3MW are being run in homes/businesses. Everything else is probably in datacenters.

[notlist3d]

Yeah, but when you get down to it 128MW are owned by one entity--which also happens to be the entity that claims to have the most efficient chips. That's kinda scary!

I find it very scary aswell they seem to be only one pumping out next gen and if they have specs that were reported they are making a killing. Also they chances will ROI on a lot of machines before other companies even get next gen chips. So when they have ROI'ed and rest is pure profit... that is really scary as what do they do?

My fear is they sell tons of BTC and drag down price. I hope that does not happen though.

[Amph]

it would be nice to have some info, on the maximum megawatt that their location can handle, so they will be forced in the end to split in two or more location

which means better decentralization

[QuintLeo]

I'm pretty sure that MegaBigPower's mine has grown quite a bit, or they've added additional facilities.

 I believe Zoomhash also has a biggish mine in the same area, given they're shipping the used A2 units they have for sale out of there. No clue on size though.

[armedmilitia]

it would be nice to have some info, on the maximum megawatt that their location can handle, so they will be forced in the end to split in two or more location

which means better decentralization

If it's still owned by the same group of people it's not decentralized.

I'm pretty sure that MegaBigPower's mine has grown quite a bit, or they've added additional facilities.

Turns out that MBP and hashplex share space in this datacenter:
http://www.newsbtc.com/2014/05/30/data-centers-join-bitcoin-train/
http://www.serverfarmrealty.com/data-centers/titan/

Assuming 60% is used for hosted mining hardware, and the rest is used for other clients--4MW. It seems to line up with this next article I found which is the motherlode: http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2014/11/05/bitcoin-clusters-emerge-in-cloud-computings-footprints/

It reveals that MBP was building a 23MW center and was eyeing another location with 12MW capacity. Another (unlisted so far) NA based hosting company in that article that has 4.5MW of capacity.

I believe Zoomhash also has a biggish mine in the same area, given they're shipping the used A2 units they have for sale out of there. No clue on size though.

Good one!
http://zoomhash.com/pages/hosting

That's another 3MW accounted for.

I'm off to sleep but I'll be updating the OP tomorrow.

[mwizard]

KNC are a reasonably open company about their mine rollout plans.  Another 20 MW rollout.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3014471/bitcoin-miner-knc-is-planning-another-four-week-datacenter-build-out.html

Also recent Sam Cole interview talking in detail about mining and KNCs search for cheap mining locations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDnA6i6oEvA

Washington State has a stack of miners to the extent it is impacting the cheap electricity.

http://www.govtech.com/dc/articles/High-Capacity-Data-Centers-Blindsided-by-Increase-in-Utilities-Charges.html

And who knows what is in China.  Bitfury are likely to be mining on their 16nm chip as fast as they can get them.

Just a comment.  A nominal X Megwatt Bitcoin Data Centre is only likely to run at the most 60% of capacity for actual mining. There are overheads (cooling etc) and electrical systems and transformers are normally kept at under 80% of capacity.

[armedmilitia]

Just a comment.  A nominal X Megwatt Bitcoin Data Centre is only likely to run at the most 60% of capacity for actual mining. There are overheads (cooling etc) and electrical systems and transformers are normally kept at under 80% of capacity.

Thanks for the info, I'll use it when I update the OP tomorrow.

[MaximeAD]

Great! My company is there . I have to try going up in the list!

Very nice summary.

There's also allinvain with Cryptoboreas in Labrador. Don't know the size of their datacenter though.

[armedmilitia]

Big update!

I've added quite a few more datacenters, I've almost doubled the total "accounted for" MW since the OP. How many MW do you all think the network uses in total? It could help me with my pie charts.

Great! My company is there . I have to try going up in the list!

Very nice summary.

There's also allinvain with Cryptoboreas in Labrador. Don't know the size of their datacenter though.

Do you have a name for your datacenters?

Cryptoboreas is too small too be listed IIRC, it looks like they have 150KW of capacity.

[MaximeAD]

Do you have a name for your datacenters?

Unfortunately no. DC0001 and DC0002... (If we look my naming convention, I'm ready to open 9999 datacenters...  )

[armedmilitia]

Works for me, I've added it.
My standards for names are low.

[armedmilitia]

Update:

Added Zoomhash and HaoBTC. China just passed 100MW.

[RichBC]

What about F2Pool & BTCC are they not included for a reason or because there is no data?

[GreatNorthData]

We do in fact have something big in the works. Will open this spring.

[armedmilitia]

What about F2Pool & BTCC are they not included for a reason or because there is no data?

Those are public mining pools, AFAIK the owners don't run any mining hardware.

BW/Antpool are listed because they have large datacenters that they use for mining in addition to operating a pool.

[Eric Mu]

We have acquired a few thousands Avalon 6 and Antminer S7. The old S3 were mostly sold. Though we are currently running around 13PH, it is mainly due to seasonal power supply restrictions. We expect the hash rate to rise to 30 to 50 PH by mid-2016.

[RichBC]

Also surely F2Pool is way to big to just be a Public Mining Pool, must be someone's data centre?

[philipma1957]

Also surely F2Pool is way to big to just be a Public Mining Pool, must be someone's data centre?

They offer steady payouts  this is a huge reason people use them.

Think like an accountant  not like a geek.---------- Sounds nasty not meant to be nasty. But if you are business oriented you mine here.

I have a limited 2 cent power deal with a friend he is a banker not a geek.

He insists that this 1 s-7 is to be pointed at you guessed it f2pool.

If  you back a person with cash you don't want variance. As much as I don't like some of f2pool's methods the steady daily payout  has a lot of meaning.

[RichBC]

I was not questioning why people use F2Pool. In fact my standard setup is first Nicehash with a setting some % above normal PPS payout levels, then BW.com as they have 1% fees & finally F2Pool...

My surprise was that F2Pool could be as big as it is and only be a Public Mining Pool with Ad Hoc users?

[philipma1957]

It can  because a banker type guy  will point from the State of Washington.  He looks at it as a ledger game for profit.

The guy I know can drop 1 or 2 million into btc as a hedge to his real estate, stock and bond investments.

He has been picking my brain to understand the entire game along with watching and allowing the stat of the art miner (s-7) run in his office.

He is methodical and is most likely going to pass or pull the trigger this spring.  He has connections to a few guys in the state of Washington

and if they go forth and build a mine  they will point it at f2pool.  Basically it gets rid of variance.  

I am helping him to decide if he will do this.

So if they get a building and 3 cent power  put in 3 or 4 million  they could get.

2000 s-7's  at 4.7th each or 9.4ph.

This would make them second at f2pool.

Here are the top  payouts from f2pool last night. They paid 777 coins last night.

The biggest payout is below as are all payouts between 2 and 45 coins

https://blockchain.info/tx/c1078c2b8cf1175881e0c04a25dc517086c6cce4aa17a7e69c7bc7632d9bc529

Code:

3EUC1DfLuBw6Quk9uqud6MDkZwGL2x4DQF - (Unspent) 45.86974221 BTC (This would be a 10.7ph farm)
34GL44eQLCwsxXmfEDFZGeKWwxCF2KT5Sq - (Unspent) 13.60986991 BTC
1EQkvn9h9fGJwr5pBneohDsKZ5Vhbz1TPB - (Unspent) 9.930294 BTC
1C41DVZY4r1nyyXK6cdEpPxKi5ouuiry4n - (Unspent) 7.96791047 BTC
14ywCzmKfhXXTSnRFfsPzw1pdAahV7yhYR - (Unspent) 7.8416113 BTC
3Gtq9X2UrhZdMVmMfVgaCat7Me9iweB8m4 - (Unspent) 7.47403059 BTC
13G26hWrn6FYbc5cp2VtjUbxgjEr34yTar - (Spent) 7.28426601 BTC
18vmkQjuRmkStZAdujdqEWJdyRwXcU9yqd - (Unspent) 7.03245484 BTC
1LoVtEkrgyBPDfnhjrgAxKdCezQqgTZMg8 - (Spent) 6.23043885 BTC
1FpPoRuqs9quNv15AW49SLRZaCMcDPLe47 - (Spent) 5.17836039 BTC
1LTcR1u4zWp5RA6HArYzyNDEK9ghznpCQY - (Spent) 4.77989047 BTC
1NzDR8nctRGo2Q1dTYvyfwC1ojRbyE7U8H - (Spent) 4.62705425 BTC
1ctwnbd2GpxzNFZWyipXhPMWHM5pUB4Er - (Unspent) 4.32608664 BTC
1FvfFpJHcVZBc36oSwxKr2rmEzGwN2ScS6 - (Unspent) 4.22554293 BTC
1PZyCJNAuBnyKQRpE2rhJnoqhRu4zf9s4N - (Spent) 3.64234345 BTC
1ES4JqFigkBCD25h1z8YEuJokayKjfQALP - (Spent) 3.55097889 BTC
12mZVMWH6y4ZwZkX8Dzd1LDi2DCJVVAPZv - (Spent) 3.35294079 BTC
1HVPLPjp4KbD3v27whwthbrCnttJYjbt8J - (Spent) 3.27263024 BTC
15vbjLckRftHzKKehVR6xFBdpjBXjK8wAx - (Spent) 3.17929868 BTC
1KbceGdKqWjT4uFxMipvtMdyjrGAGUkj5r - (Spent) 3.08092967 BTC
1698dp8x7LQQxUd1wSMAowTKMFufedAYTs - (Spent) 3.06221929 BTC
19DqEMgspPxdPqRzuHygepcPdStSdusK6m - (Unspent) 3.02045628 BTC
1EWqWgBewSAL5gK6M9F9vA4zoiRZ64xrKd - (Spent) 2.92740601 BTC
1NuwS2ycdEYsh3PSUL9xnjMgpd3NVwCd5G - (Spent) 2.90808001 BTC
1GHxHr2Vn7BYwzwFQY3yeuGCYDo4vnStAU - (Spent) 2.90182751 BTC
19utf3yHqShMvMeYkSUP5iuJ7zbGxHruKq - (Unspent) 2.88482313 BTC
17TEXR9Nmv9xfGDMer4eKMaMwWsNa59w4o - (Unspent) 2.88479089 BTC
1P2JHNPLqAc9VU3MvT4VuRvkwj7m99hzw - (Spent) 2.87513535 BTC
1Fdpz7ywj97BAZ2jyrfDpVoLYM6vfV5Phu - (Spent) 2.50861081 BTC
13RJGGYtBYxSWkYw7YR4ez1JQq3q5sHAW7 - (Unspent) 2.49549327 BTC
174g4aiaFma15ptudon3YKCrJ6XUcsQ4h2 - (Spent) 2.36629934 BTC
17o4Y9nHRbvLCeVoffPMewbjeMsC6RCRSa - (Unspent) 2.28453104 BTC
34QjytsE8GVRbUBvYNheftqJ5CHfDHvQRD - (Unspent) 2.22697006 BTC
12aKBVF8V4W8qAE1uc6EbJSxkaq1igAVrX - (Unspent) 2.17071314 BTC
1JPfR3smqKu72kvEuYnD6VHEdA4CCN7PUR - (Spent) 2.16760942 BTC
14wVA385b9pseJDzENZTqUokWYdG89ukQH - (Spent) 2.14407525 BTC
1FnaiTCqX8YKGHKaVNWSi8U55vp6RnFBF1 - (Unspent) 2.08765924 BTC
18a7XxjM95wMbzHcxFymWAL9HrawMzyRQz - (Unspent) 2.0477259 BTC
1ESJSuf4noV7Y3sj9DsXBLnmPik339EnR2 - (Spent) 2.0139828 BTC -------------  (This would be  a 472th  farm)

[notlist3d]

Very intersting data philipma I don't think I have seen this before.  There are less then I was expecting.

Are you able to do the same with antpool?   Could we see how big operations are within it?

[armedmilitia]

To the guy who said BTCC has its own farms: Please give me a source! I want to list as many people as possible.

3EUC1DfLuBw6Quk9uqud6MDkZwGL2x4DQF - (Unspent) 45.86974221 BTC This would be a 10.7ph farm

Hundred bucks says that it's HAOBTC, because they're located in China and have almost that exact hashrate.

[armedmilitia]

BIG UPDATE:
-Removed bitfury's 100MW datacenter. It doesn't exist, it's the same DC as the 40MW one. If you look here their 100MW datacenter is only quoted as "up to" 100MW, they had a seriously misleading press release. Also, the 40MW and 100MW datacenter are located in the exact same technology park. Plus, they are never both mentioned in the same press release, kind of like superman and clark kent.
http://agenda.ge/news/43030/eng

-Removed bitfury's 8.5MW datacenter. It's actually owned and operated by Advania (datacenter company), and I can't tell how much is used for miner hosting. Maybe bitfury uses it, but right now I don't have a source for it.
http://stundin.is/frett/vafasamar-tengingar-staersta-gagnavers-landsins/

-Downgraded bitfury's 20MW datacenter to 10MW. Another misleading press release, if you see this news report (and translate it), you can see that they only pay for 9.9MW of power from the power company. If anyone has a conflicting (non-bitfury) source please help me out.
https://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnetgazeti.ge%2F2015%2F08%2F06%2F48634%2F&edit-text=&act=url

Actually, that article has tons of juicy info about bitfury. Namely, it appears they've spun down their icelandic mining operations (part of the reason for removing it), and their datacenter plan in finland failed. I suspect both of these have to do with electricity rates impacting the bottom line, but that's just my opinion. Apparently they pay $0.01c/kwh in Georgia when converted to USD, which is impressive (not 100% sure on this one, the article doesn't specify whether the rate is in USD or GEL).

Well, after the dust settled it looks like I was seriously underrepresenting the USA/China market share.
Anyways, that's all for me.

[macbook-air]

We have these public pages:
* https://www.f2pool.com/bitcoin-blocks
* https://www.f2pool.com/litecoin-blocks
* https://www.f2pool.com/regions
Afaik, BTCC does not own mining hardwares either.

[notlist3d]

BIG UPDATE:
-Removed bitfury's 100MW datacenter. It doesn't exist, it's the same DC as the 40MW one. If you look here their 100MW datacenter is only quoted as "up to" 100MW, they had a seriously misleading press release. Also, the 40MW and 100MW datacenter are located in the exact same technology park. Plus, they are never both mentioned in the same press release, kind of like superman and clark kent.
http://agenda.ge/news/43030/eng

-Removed bitfury's 8.5MW datacenter. It's actually owned and operated by Advania (datacenter company), and I can't tell how much is used for miner hosting. Maybe bitfury uses it, but right now I don't have a source for it.
http://stundin.is/frett/vafasamar-tengingar-staersta-gagnavers-landsins/

-Downgraded bitfury's 20MW datacenter to 10MW. Another misleading press release, if you see this news report (and translate it), you can see that they only pay for 9.9MW of power from the power company. If anyone has a conflicting (non-bitfury) source please help me out.
https://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnetgazeti.ge%2F2015%2F08%2F06%2F48634%2F&edit-text=&act=url

Actually, that article has tons of juicy info about bitfury. Namely, it appears they've spun down their icelandic mining operations (part of the reason for removing it), and their datacenter plan in finland failed. I suspect both of these have to do with electricity rates impacting the bottom line, but that's just my opinion. Apparently they pay $0.01c/kwh in Georgia when converted to USD, which is impressive (not 100% sure on this one, the article doesn't specify whether the rate is in USD or GEL).

Well, after the dust settled it looks like I was seriously underrepresenting the USA/China market share.
Anyways, that's all for me.

Interesting to see one thing I can think of they might want some empty spots for their new chip once a full miner is ready.    So if they do have space right no its good short term... but long term I would guess once new miner comes out it goes right into empty spots.

Also I could see them trying to unload some of the older miners to make space for the new ones.  But we still don't know how long till they are pumping them out.

[armedmilitia]

I really don't think so, it's not cost effective for HAOBTC to spend extra money on more efficient hardware--their electricity costs are very low.

[Eric Mu]

I really don't think so, it's not cost effective for HAOBTC to spend extra money on more efficient hardware--their electricity costs are very low.

We have been phasing out old machines - the S3s that appeared in the pictures I took and posted on this forum were all sold. As a bulk buyer we can afford to pay a significant amount in advance, as a result, we are often be able to receive new machines from the manufacturers earlier than the market and at lower prices. Quite often we find that we can make a nice chunk of money not doing actually mining but just reselling the machines we just get.

[armedmilitia]

We have been phasing out old machines - the S3s that appeared in the pictures I took and posted on this forum were all sold. As a bulk buyer we can afford to pay a significant amount in advance, as a result, we are often be able to receive new machines from the manufacturers earlier than the market and at lower prices. Quite often we find that we can make a nice chunk of money not doing actually mining but just reselling the machines we just get.

Thanks for answering all these questions.
Out of curiosity, how many MW of capacity do you have?

[igotBAWS]

I just wanted to say thanks for the great job armedmilitia!

So i wanted to get more 'into' the hole mining thing. So just wanted to write down my thought (please tell me if im wrong)

1. Don't buy used hardware from ebay or w.e.
2. Buy new hardware, which has the best kw/power ratio.
3. Buy the hardware from someone, who also can host it.
4. Don't lease urself an miner. It just doen't give any return.
5. Maybe buy a contract - if lucky it can payout

-- if u mind having my post here, i can remove and post in the mining forum --

Any other suggestions for the beginners list?

Edit: One question, is it better to self say which pool you want, or just let the "hosting company" decide?

[armedmilitia]

I just wanted to say thanks for the great job armedmilitia!

So i wanted to get more 'into' the hole mining thing. So just wanted to write down my thought (please tell me if im wrong)

1. Don't buy used hardware from ebay or w.e.
2. Buy new hardware, which has the best kw/power ratio.
3. Buy the hardware from someone, who also can host it.
4. Don't lease urself an miner. It just doen't give any return.
5. Maybe buy a contract - if lucky it can payout

-- if u mind having my post here, i can remove and post in the mining forum --

Any other suggestions for the beginners list?

Edit: One question, is it better to self say which pool you want, or just let the "hosting company" decide?

This is probably the wrong section for this.
1.) Ebay is terrible, I agree.
2.) Not necessarily, it depends on your power cost and the cost of the miner
3.) Buying directly from a hoster is nice (you don't need to pay for shipping) but it's not necessary.
4.) I don't think you can lease miners anyways.
5.) Contracts suck! You'll lose in the long run.

[notlist3d]

One I did not see on list is BlockC.  They report having 10 MW datacenter - http://www.blockc.co/ .  They are the distributor of Avalon gear outside of China.  So it is likely they have a sizable amount.

Might add them to list, I did not find them.  But I could have missed it.

[antirack]

One I did not see on list is BlockC.  They report having 10 MW datacenter - http://www.blockc.co/ .  They are the distributor of Avalon gear outside of China.  So it is likely they have a sizable amount.

Might add them to list, I did not find them.  But I could have missed it.

10MW are ~34PH on Avalon's.

http://organofcorti.blogspot.be/2016/02/february-7th-2016-block-maker-statistics.html

[sunbreak]

Is Sweden like near Antarctica or something?  

But awesome list. Crazy to see how many farms there are using that much power.

KNC is located in The Node Pole which is a collection of business industrial real estate which is open to development. Obviously they have attractive offerings for people opening up shop there.

The KNC Boden datacenters are right next to each other neighboring the old Helicopter Air Base.

http://thenodepole.com/data-center-sites/helicopter-air-base/

They have hyrdro and local biogas power production and in addition are well connected to their national electric grid.

http://thenodepole.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/hydro-960x485-900x455.png

If I recall the first KNC site was 10MW and the second was going to be 20MW .. or was that 20MW total and an additional 10MW ... I'm not 100% sure, I would have to scour the media releases.

This is also home to Hydro66

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=765407.0

http://thenodepole.com/data-center-sites/hydro66/

"Hydro66, a data centre provider financed by Black Green Capital"

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/22/cloud-storage-data-centre-sweden-arctic-hydro66

"Hydro 66’s anchor tenant in their first facility is a Bitcoin operation called MegaMine, which has the same equity backers and management as Hydro66."

http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2014/10/23/hydro66-kicks-off-sweden-data-center-construction-in-facebooks-neighborhood/

MegaMine is apparently these dudes;

http://www.megamine.com/aboutus.php

The pic on that page of their datacenter is clearly not their datacenter and is a pic from a facebook datacenter. Which is ironic because Facebook also actually has a datacenter in the area. Same reference as above.

[sunbreak]

There are a few missing ones I think;


LordPaco has a 1 MW mine according to, could be 4-5MW now according to reference below;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159107.msg12266632#msg12266632

Also pictures from page 40 in "Miner photo 'porn'"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=766998.msg12220928#msg12220928

It's stated that the goal is to being 4 MW online by the end of the year. The post is from 08/23/2015.

Quite recently ASICSPACE had a some sort of "parting ways" with their original datacenter operated by, and they moved their remaining customers to Quincy, WA and into LordPaco's space;

"ASICSpace Mining Co. v. Salcido Connection Inc."

http://wbjtoday.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&subsectionID=62&articleID=3627

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=885197.msg13190964#msg13190964

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1328951.msg13560711#msg13560711

That means Salcido Connection Inc. is now going to operate their own datacenter with the capacity previously allocated to ASICSPACE.

http://ncwbusiness.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionID=45&ArticleID=3742&TM=57112.81

I find it interesting that he contests the stigma around bitcoin not creating jobs.

"The metric we need to get out there is this is way more jobs per megawatt than manufacturing," he said. "Alcoa used 250 megawatts for 450 jobs. I'm creating more than 50 family wage jobs on 4 megawatts. And there's a ton of direct and indirect economic spinoff from that. Data space and emerging technology draws all kinds of spin off support industries, the kind you can imagine and those you can't imagine."

However everyone in the Chelan area is running into potential problems securing power pricing;

http://kuow.org/post/virtual-currency-meets-wariness-it-plugs-cheap-columbia-river-power

"High Density Load Forum with Chelan County PUD and Salcido Connection Wenatchee WA"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUPLp_AVIWY

seek to 4:50

At 11:50 he mentions "We have two facilities, we have a 2MW at the old Tree Top plant in Cashmere, WA and we have another 1.7MW in south Wenatchee that we call Columbia Data."

The second location might be at this site on Columbia St.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/GO+USA,+Inc/@47.4179256,-120.3044442,3a,75y,328.03h,90.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFUoUHGOzUZCiJu2zxRvYYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x3d6360bf7572beb0!6m1!1e1

Notice the power going to the upper floor of the building on the left, looks like 1MW of 3 phase. Then there is another 750 kVA transformer on the street to the right. In short, plenty of power on this street to get 1.7MW.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/GO+USA,+Inc/@47.418386,-120.3036617,299m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x3d6360bf7572beb0!6m1!1e1

The aerial view shows that Columbia St is adjacent to this substation and there are visibly existing overhead lines carrying that power over to Chehalis St and then to Columba St. Pretty ideal short runs!
Also in this meeting is "Dedicated ASIC Services" ... anyone know who that is?

Plus there is also .. OregonMines which I read had 500 kVA in one location and another 1 MW in a different location in the same area. I can not seem to find a reference for that.

https://www.oregonmines.com/location/

[notlist3d]

One we don't really know on is some old spot's PCFLI ran miners in:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=514758.0

I know all of his current group buys go into a really nice center.  But these old "simple" ones I would guess someone else if not him is using.  Can't imagine building farms and then leaving them.   This is just a example I figure there are a few players with "simple' data centers that are pretty hard to track.  And this is all speculation I have no idea who owns the simple ones now.

[sunbreak]

Hash the Planet

http://hashthepla.net/#section-pricing

Located at a property owned by Jay Byers, owner of the 106,000-square-foot Mission District building in Cashmere who has been leasing 13,000-square feet of space to a server farm business for the past 18 months.

https://www.chelanpud.org/docs/default-source/commission/forum-lets-high-density-power-users-share-their-side-of-the-story---leavenworth-echo-jan-27-2016.pdf?sfvrsn=0

It does not mention the total capacity but it does mention the total investment of $800k going on $1M, so I would assume no less than 1 MW and probably no more than 2 MW.

http://hashthepla.net/gallery/#!

Looks like they are selling on eBay right now ...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281899529175

The listing says "We have hundreds and hundreds and hundreds". So I would assume no less than 300 and probably no more than maybe 1000. Assuming this isn't the only equipment the power need of 180 kW - 600 kW. Since that lines up with the original projection above I would assume it's a 1 MW datacenter. However spending $800k - $1 M on the setup in the picture of the Hash the Planet pics leads me to think they have a lot more power they aren't using.

In the above Chelan PUD document the building owner Jim Byers mentions ""I made the agreement with these guys that I would build the server system and in two years they will buy it for $3 million more than he put into it. So far, I'm $800,000 into this thing and will be $1 million into it before its done. I own the server system and they run the computers," he said. "They told me if the rate goes up, they will just move. I will lose $4 million if you do this."

So it sounds like he bought a bunch of miners. Man .. what did S5's go for ... $340-$420 ... If you spent $1 million on build out and another $3 million on S5's that would get you approximately 7000 S5's and psu's .... That would use 590 watts x 7000 miners = 4.1 MW. Which is still within the 5 MW Chelan PUD limit for subsidized power rates.

Although in that "High Density Load Forum with Chelan County PUD and Salcido Connection Wenatchee WA" video I posted earlier which is from just a couple days ago. It is stated several times the "actual amount of power being used currently in Chelan PUD is just over 5 MW" and that perhaps there "were" previously failed endeavors accounting for several other MW that may no longer be utilized for mining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUPLp_AVIWY"

So if you take that as absolute truth then the following operations cannot account for more than "just over 5 MW" of active capacity. Malachi claims he is using 3.7MW of that figure leaving 1.3 - 1.6MW to account for the other two.

Dedicated ASIC Services - Michael Cao / Cashmere, could be ZoomHash who claims to have 3MW http://zoomhash.com/pages/hosting
Salcido Connection - Malachi Salcido / Cashmere, South Wenatchee
Hash the Planet - Sean Cooper / Cashmere

Oh ... cool I just confirmed the location of the second Salcido connection site.

"At last Wednesday's forum Salcido Connection owner Malachi Salcido, who has equipped much of the former Tree Top facility in Cashmere as a low tier no tier data center and is working on a second facility in the Go USA building in Wenatchee"

http://cashmerevalleyrecord.com/print.asp?ArticleID=9072&SectionID=5&SubSectionID=5

So that confirms it is the building on the right.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/GO+USA,+Inc/@47.4179256,-120.3044442,3a,75y,328.03h,90.39t/data=

[sunbreak]

Genesis Mining claims it started in Bosnia running GPU's then setup in China running scrypt and then finally ended up setting up several datacenters in Iceland mining bitcoin and X11.

https://vimeo.com/136927293

I'm not sure how much power they have in total and I don't know how many sites in Iceland. However we can conclude since we only are talking about bitcoin and that just from what is shown in the video. I can count 16 sections on the bottom and another 6 on top, each containing 9 x SP30/SP35 machines using at least 3kW to 3.5 kW of power each. So thats between 594 kW and 693 kW at least.

Here are some more pics I found of their facility

http://www.datacenterdynamics.com/design-build/bitcoin-miner-runs-the-ultimate-shoestring-facility/94764.fullarticle

Well after reading that article it claims that Genesis is currently using 1.2 MW. Also noted in the article is that BitFury's Iceland datacenter was apparently actually built by Advania. As previously discussed in the forum that BitFury has vacated this space. It appears that Advania now is offering this space to interested mining parties for 75 euro/kW-month.

https://www.advania.com/cloud/data-center-it-services/#bitcoin-colocation

They call it the Mjölnir Data Center and list the location here;

https://www.google.is/maps/place/Hafnavegur,+Hafnir/@63.9331794,-22.6711592,16.5z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x4929fd06e84f0793:0x6c01580688cd513f?hl=en

Apparently google maps imaging is out dated. BitFury had posted a video of this sites construction;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvGtrflL8zA

You'll also notice ... this well known image from that video;

https://news.bitcoin.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/bitfury-coop-view1.jpg

Is the blurred backdrop image on Advania's page;

https://www.advania.com/cloud

Apparently there are 3 of these buildings each supporting 2 MW or more for a total of perhaps 6 MW.

http://cdn.ttgtmedia.com/rms/onlineImages/sdc_iceland_04.jpg

Additionally it does appear BitFury has a second datacenter in Georgia;

http://cbw.ge/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/10525004_1154234711273103_253096434_n.jpg

Which is certainly different from their first one which was stated to be 20 MW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3xRNmtpy6s

The new datacenter is stated to be 40 MW.

http://cbw.ge/business/pm-unveils-datacenter-with-innovative-energy-efficient-cooling-system/

And is stated to be utilizing their immersion cooling technology on both previous 28nm and latest 16nm chips.

"BitFury mega processing datacenter is equipped by the most advanced 28 and 16 nanometer chips."


Also don't forget Bitcoin Club Network which not much before January had less than 5 petahash is also in Iceland and lately has been showing up at around 20 petahash. Which means even with they have to be 5 - 10 MW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eId68Y9fsYA

They are clearly building this out right now.

This pic looks to be an older facility as it looks like all S2's or S4's and the page this image comes from talks about their new Iceland facillity back in July.

http://bitcoinsalvation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/bitmine4.jpg

http://bitcoinsalvation.com/blog/2015/06/bitclub-new-mining-pool-coming-soon/

Some more info from their own site;

https://bitclubnetwork.com/products.html

[Dalkore]

"1MW | Bitcoin ASIC Hosting | Western Technology Center (leased space from Dell) | Quincy, Washington, USA
Note: 2.5 MW expansion planned, no word on whether or not that has happened.
Source: http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2014/10/10/dell-becomes-bitcoin-mining-data-center-provider/"

We do not operate out of Dell or have for sometime (Late 2014).  Thru this whole time we have owned and operated our own facility.  Dell was just overflow capacity.  Please change to reflect that.  Thanks!  We are in Douglas County, Washington USA.


Cheers,
Dalkore

[davecoin]

I hadn't seen this posted here and I think it's a cool video.  It's a timelapse of one of Bitfury's big mines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8dj1LYw50g

[valkir]

I hadn't seen this posted here and I think it's a cool video.  It's a timelapse of one of Bitfury's big mines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8dj1LYw50g

Wow this is awesome! Quality technology. Incredible. I know I dream but will be nice to get a liquid cooling system from Bitfury. 

[notlist3d]

Wow this is awesome! Quality technology. Incredible. I know I dream but will be nice to get a liquid cooling system from Bitfury.  

Truly amazing thanks for sharing.  Dang the scale of it is pretty impressive you watch that building being built... it shows what a mega mining center is for sure.   I wish they would have told timeline though.  Like day 1.. and how long that took to do so much work.

Very cool video though.

[davecoin]

Truly amazing thanks for sharing.  Dang the scale of it is pretty impressive you watch that building being built... it shows what a mega mining center is for sure.   I wish they would have told timeline though.  Like day 1.. and how long that took to do so much work.

Very cool video though.

I'm wondering why it's on some random youtube account and not on Bitfury's page.  I'd love to see more shots of the inside of the building and the control panels for the tanks.

[Arctic]

http://thenodepole.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/hydro-960x485-900x455.png

If I recall the first KNC site was 10MW and the second was going to be 20MW .. or was that 20MW total and an additional 10MW ... I'm not 100% sure, I would have to scour the media releases.

This is also home to Hydro66

Nice job on that update Sunbreak.  And nice job on the whole list armedmilitia.

Yes the KNC first site was a total of 30MW and the second is the same again.  The local
energy co. has built a 120MW upgradeable to 200MW substation nearby.

A

[Swimmer63]

SEG Mining in Vancouver Washington.
See segmining.com.  Not sure what size it is.

[QuintLeo]

Zoomhash's mining/hosting operation somewhere in the Wenatchee area probably can account for enough usage to get to that 5MW figure.

[armedmilitia]

This is super duper out of date. KnC filed for bankruptcy so it's possible they've shuttered a datacenter or two.

Is zoomhash still in business? Their prices look... dated.

[GreatNorthData]

We'll start posting some pictures soon. It'll be a busy summer.

[armedmilitia]

Wowee, I haven't been following this thread for a while. You guys have made some good contributions, so I decided to do a bit myself.

I've added a couple of datacenters, reorganized the thread, and made some pretty visual changes.

[StarenseN]

Great post, looking for updates.

[QuintLeo]

Zoomhash is still around, they were clearing out A2 units in large quantities the last few months obviously clearing space and capasity for the A4.

Hasn't exactly been a lot of NEW miners for them to post the last 6 months after all.

[GreatNorthData]

We'll be rolling out 10MW in 2016, first five will be online in less than 60 days. Pictures to follow.

[armedmilitia]

We'll be rolling out 10MW in 2016, first five will be online in less than 60 days. Pictures to follow.

Looking forward to it!

[armedmilitia]

I found an interesting paper that is sort of relevant to Bitmain's huge datacenter.
http://www.ccsenet.org/journal/index.php/ijbm/article/viewFile/3038/2804

[Eric Mu]

Can you please update HaoBTC entry to 25 MW and 72 PH respectively?

[armedmilitia]

Can you please update HaoBTC entry to 25 MW and 72 PH respectively?

Hell yeah I will. Thanks for the update!

[armedmilitia]

Random speculation: Do you think that the KnC datacenters will shut down in the next few days because of the halving?

[GreatNorthData]

Random speculation: Do you think that the KnC datacenters will shut down in the next few days because of the halving?

It appears KNC's LTC miners were shut off again. So, it is a definite possibility. That being said, where they are only 3.5% of the bitcoin network it may be tough to discern.

[louiseth1]

PMed you so you can list our mining operations.

[armedmilitia]

I know there's still a lot of mining in WA and a decent amount in Labrador. Labrador power rates are unbeatable!

I had no idea Block C went out of business, but it looks like their website is dead so I guess you're right! Poor guys, the guy I talked to who worked there was real nice.
Do you have any sources on zoomhash, though? Website is still up and they offer hosting services. They don't seem dead... yet.

Well, China has the only manufacturers currently selling hardware to the public. Bitfury's playing the long game, I'm sure.

[GreatNorthData]

We've cracked your top ten - presuming the KNC mines are out of business. Our new Lab City site is 6MW. We've just been calling our facilities Lab City and Goose Bay.

[Eric Mu]

One megawatt farm under construction. To launch soon together with website - SinoHash.com.

[armedmilitia]

PMed you so you can list our mining operations.

Listed!

We've cracked your top ten - presuming the KNC mines are out of business. Our new Lab City site is 6MW. We've just been calling our facilities Lab City and Goose Bay.

I'm pretty sure KnC's mines are gathering dust by now. I checked the blockchain.info hashrate distribution: Nothing. Organofcorti hasn't mentioned KnC recently, either. I've moved them to the dead column.

Congratulations on your expansion. Listed!

One megawatt farm under construction. To launch soon together with website - SinoHash.com.

Let me know when it's done, and I'll list it!

[armedmilitia]

A couple of big changes:

• I've removed MegaBigPower's 32MW and 12MW datacenters. They never materialized--according to their own website they only have 4MW in WA.
• I've added Verne Global in Iceland (they rent space to various mining groups).
• I've added Telco 214 in Labrador.

Verne Global:
Verne Global has a huge complex in Kevlavik, Iceland. However, not all of their capacity is used for bitcoin mining--they have some "traditional" datacenter customers too. It's easy to estimate how much is used for mining though, because they launched a new product called Transmission+. Transmission+ is very low cost hosting with very little redundancy. That sort of product is terrible for everyone except for bitcoin miners, because miners would rather have 98% uptime and half the power cost, while typical web services would not tolerate any downtime for any discount. Luckily enough, Vern Global mentioned in an interview that they have more than 5 megawatts of customer capacity using its Transmission+ product! I think their largest customer is Genesis Mining.

Because of that wonderful nugget of news, we can put them at 5 megawatts.

Telco 214/North 53:
Telco 214 is especially noteworthy. I got a tip-off that there was another mine in Labrador, and got to work doing my internet detective thing. The only mines I knew about in Labrador were Great North Data and CryptoBoreas (operated by allinvain), so this was especially interesting to me.

First off, a CBC article (screenshot) mentions this company called North 53 degrees. If you zoom in on the image in the article, you can see North 53 Degrees written on that permit granted sign.

Who owns North 53, and how big is it?

First, let's tackle the question of ownership: Using domaintools, I got some promising results! There is a n35d.com domain, with the title North 53 Degrees Inc, whose ip traces to a Florida-based networking company called Telco 214 (screenshot). What's so special about Telco 214? They're an alias for a very big solo miner! It seems likely, then, that Telco 214 is operating the mine in Labrador.

Second, let's tackle the question of size: Between the 13th and 27th, this miner manager to find an average of 1.5 blocks per day. 144 blocks are found every day in the bitcoin world, so that makes this miner a hair over 1% of the network. That works out to roughly 22PH/s, so 4MW seems like a decent guess.

[revolution82]

We have all of our hosting done in WA state with these guys. http://www.salcidoenterprises.tech/

I know they have at least four data centers and the one we have gear in is over 2MW.

[QuintLeo]

Toomim brothers is in Grant County, Washington. I'll leave it to them to be more precise if they choose to be - I've seen their building but not had any chance to try for a "visit" to date.

(edit - visited this week, but they understandably were not interested in offering a tour to someone that wasn't hosting with them).

Zoomhash is starting to look like they may have shut down all operations - the last commmunication I got from them indicated that the owner hadn't decided yet, but that was months ago and ALL of their web addresses are now offline.

MegaBigPower has mutated into GigaWatt - I don't know if they still have their older mine(s) in operation.

Anyone else notice that the Saicidoenterprices office address is at the same address (though possibly different building) as MinerWarez?

[HagssFIN]

Canaan Creative has mining datacenter in Boden, Sweden.
It is in the same facilities where now bankrupted KnCMiner used to be.

[fanatic26]

Anyone else notice that the Saicidoenterprices office address is at the same address (though possibly different building) as MinerWarez?

That is Salcidos main warehouse/headquarters where they hold all of their HVAC stuff so I would say 100% its the same company.

[sunbreak]

This thread needs serious updates! Anyone have any new info?

[mikeywith]

This thread needs serious updates! Anyone have any new info?

it's pretty impossible to do that now, back when this topic was posted early 2016 hash rate was less or about 1EH (1,000,000 TH) only
right now the hashrate is 45EH ( 45,000,000 TH) that's about 4500% increase.

searching google will give you terrible result, i remember seeing one article saying Switzerland mines more bitcoin than China, i honestly doubt that anybody knows who is mining what anymore.

[fanatic26_]

10MW | BlockC | Unnamed | San Francisco, CA, USA (probably)
Note: RIP BlockC. You never proved you actually had the hashrate, but you definitely proved you couldn't stay in business.
Source: blockc.co

God this makes me laugh so hard when I read it. I mean you didnt even get the location correct let alone any other possible information   

[QuintLeo]

Gigawatt has gone bankrupt, blaming excessive regulatory delay issues and the recently proposed (BUT NOT YET IMPLEMENTED, it's getting challenged in court) Grant County cryptocoin-specific rate.
This seems to indicate MegaBigPower is also going or gone, since they were connected and a local article I saw about it talked about Dave Carlson going bankrupt "multiple times" on cryptocoin operations.

To be fair, they DID suffer some serious delays on the Moses Lake site, as documented in Moses Lake City Counsel meeting transcripts - not sure about the East Wenatchee airport site.

(edit)
Visited the East Wenatchee "Panghorn Airport" site a couple weeks back - they appear to have gotten about 8 units ready to go, with 4 or 5 more "under construction" before they went bankrupt.
The site has reverted ownership to Douglas Country Port Authority per several articles in local papers, and apparently the improvements are also now owned by the Port Authority, which is apparently planning to turn it into some sort of cryptocoin-related center.

I have never been able to find out where their Moses Lake facility was located, so no data on that.

The challenge to the Grant Country cryptocoin-specific rate is still going through the court system, but Grant Country PUD implemented it and starting charging it a few months back - I managed to duck it by having shifted to pretty much all Folding before then, but the first step of it IS in fact active.


This would appear to put Gigawatt in the "dead" list at 12 MW for Douglas Country/Douglas County, and "unknown" but based on what I HAVE been able to find out at least 3 MW for Grant Country/Moses Lake.

[TeslaWatt.com]

TeslaWatt - 2.5 MW  - Nevada, US.

[GregM123]

My company, Drillbit Crypto Corp. is building containers with Bitcoin ASIC's at rural power generation facilities. We are connected directly to the generators and get our power "Behind the Fence" to avoid transmission and distribution fees. We have had a small pilot (60 units) running since June 2018. We are now building our first 1MW container and will be offering hosting to others as well as our own mining. We have 3 sites with 4 to 7MW at each site.

[teakettle]

Hello,

We have a purpose built 3.2 MW facility in Montana operational since mid 2018.  We have limited capacity currently available and ability to add more.  Please PM me if you would like more information.

Teakettle Mining

[jaykavathe]

Mystic Digital - 2.5 MW - Columbus, Indiana

http://mysticdigital.io
I am the owner and the facility is fully operational since Mid 2018. I actually focus more on custom GPU rig hosting (as well as ASICS) as most other places are ASIC focussed.

[Sundance_]

Anyone want to Necro this thread ? I'll help. Or is it somewhere else?