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January 16, 2016, 04:18:42 PM
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What about F2Pool & BTCC are they not included for a reason or because there is no data?


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We do in fact have something big in the works. Will open this spring.

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January 16, 2016, 05:33:27 PM
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What about F2Pool & BTCC are they not included for a reason or because there is no data?


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Those are public mining pools, AFAIK the owners don't run any mining hardware.

BW/Antpool are listed because they have large datacenters that they use for mining in addition to operating a pool.

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January 17, 2016, 11:25:49 AM
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We have acquired a few thousands Avalon 6 and Antminer S7. The old S3 were mostly sold. Though we are currently running around 13PH, it is mainly due to seasonal power supply restrictions. We expect the hash rate to rise to 30 to 50 PH by mid-2016.
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January 17, 2016, 12:29:04 PM
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What about F2Pool & BTCC are they not included for a reason or because there is no data?


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Those are public mining pools, AFAIK the owners don't run any mining hardware.

BW/Antpool are listed because they have large datacenters that they use for mining in addition to operating a pool.

BTCC has it own mining farms, it is also a very big farm.
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January 17, 2016, 12:57:53 PM
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What about F2Pool & BTCC are they not included for a reason or because there is no data?


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Those are public mining pools, AFAIK the owners don't run any mining hardware.

BW/Antpool are listed because they have large datacenters that they use for mining in addition to operating a pool.

BTCC has it own mining farms, it is also a very big farm.

Also surely F2Pool is way to big to just be a Public Mining Pool, must be someone's data centre?


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January 17, 2016, 01:07:50 PM
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What about F2Pool & BTCC are they not included for a reason or because there is no data?


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Those are public mining pools, AFAIK the owners don't run any mining hardware.

BW/Antpool are listed because they have large datacenters that they use for mining in addition to operating a pool.

BTCC has it own mining farms, it is also a very big farm.

Also surely F2Pool is way to big to just be a Public Mining Pool, must be someone's data centre?


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     They offer steady payouts  this is a huge reason people use them.

 Think like an accountant  not like a geek.---------- Sounds nasty not meant to be nasty. But if you are business oriented you mine here.

 I have a limited 2 cent power deal with a friend he is a banker not a geek.

 He insists that this 1 s-7 is to be pointed at you guessed it f2pool.

If  you back a person with cash you don't want variance. As much as I don't like some of f2pool's methods the steady daily payout  has a lot of meaning.

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January 17, 2016, 04:33:27 PM
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What about F2Pool & BTCC are they not included for a reason or because there is no data?


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Those are public mining pools, AFAIK the owners don't run any mining hardware.

BW/Antpool are listed because they have large datacenters that they use for mining in addition to operating a pool.

BTCC has it own mining farms, it is also a very big farm.

Also surely F2Pool is way to big to just be a Public Mining Pool, must be someone's data centre?


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     They offer steady payouts  this is a huge reason people use them.

 Think like an accountant  not like a geek.---------- Sounds nasty not meant to be nasty. But if you are business oriented you mine here.

 I have a limited 2 cent power deal with a friend he is a banker not a geek.

 He insists that this 1 s-7 is to be pointed at you guessed it f2pool.

If  you back a person with cash you don't want variance. As much as I don't like some of f2pool's methods the steady daily payout  has a lot of meaning.

I was not questioning why people use F2Pool. In fact my standard setup is first Nicehash with a setting some % above normal PPS payout levels, then BW.com as they have 1% fees & finally F2Pool...

My surprise was that F2Pool could be as big as it is and only be a Public Mining Pool with Ad Hoc users?

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January 17, 2016, 04:48:19 PM
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What about F2Pool & BTCC are they not included for a reason or because there is no data?


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Those are public mining pools, AFAIK the owners don't run any mining hardware.

BW/Antpool are listed because they have large datacenters that they use for mining in addition to operating a pool.

BTCC has it own mining farms, it is also a very big farm.

Also surely F2Pool is way to big to just be a Public Mining Pool, must be someone's data centre?


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     They offer steady payouts  this is a huge reason people use them.

 Think like an accountant  not like a geek.---------- Sounds nasty not meant to be nasty. But if you are business oriented you mine here.

 I have a limited 2 cent power deal with a friend he is a banker not a geek.

 He insists that this 1 s-7 is to be pointed at you guessed it f2pool.

If  you back a person with cash you don't want variance. As much as I don't like some of f2pool's methods the steady daily payout  has a lot of meaning.

I was not questioning why people use F2Pool. In fact my standard setup is first Nicehash with a setting some % above normal PPS payout levels, then BW.com as they have 1% fees & finally F2Pool...

My surprise was that F2Pool could be as big as it is and only be a Public Mining Pool with Ad Hoc users?

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It can  because a banker type guy  will point from the State of Washington.  He looks at it as a ledger game for profit.

The guy I know can drop 1 or 2 million into btc as a hedge to his real estate, stock and bond investments.

He has been picking my brain to understand the entire game along with watching and allowing the stat of the art miner (s-7) run in his office.

He is methodical and is most likely going to pass or pull the trigger this spring.  He has connections to a few guys in the state of Washington

and if they go forth and build a mine  they will point it at f2pool.  Basically it gets rid of variance.  

I am helping him to decide if he will do this.

So if they get a building and 3 cent power  put in 3 or 4 million  they could get.

2000 s-7's  at 4.7th each or 9.4ph.

This would make them second at f2pool.



Here are the top  payouts from f2pool last night. They paid 777 coins last night.

The biggest payout is below as are all payouts between 2 and 45 coins

https://blockchain.info/tx/c1078c2b8cf1175881e0c04a25dc517086c6cce4aa17a7e69c7bc7632d9bc529


3EUC1DfLuBw6Quk9uqud6MDkZwGL2x4DQF - (Unspent) 45.86974221 BTC This would be a 10.7ph farm
34GL44eQLCwsxXmfEDFZGeKWwxCF2KT5Sq - (Unspent) 13.60986991 BTC
1EQkvn9h9fGJwr5pBneohDsKZ5Vhbz1TPB - (Unspent) 9.930294 BTC
1C41DVZY4r1nyyXK6cdEpPxKi5ouuiry4n - (Unspent) 7.96791047 BTC
14ywCzmKfhXXTSnRFfsPzw1pdAahV7yhYR - (Unspent) 7.8416113 BTC
3Gtq9X2UrhZdMVmMfVgaCat7Me9iweB8m4 - (Unspent) 7.47403059 BTC
13G26hWrn6FYbc5cp2VtjUbxgjEr34yTar - (Spent) 7.28426601 BTC
18vmkQjuRmkStZAdujdqEWJdyRwXcU9yqd - (Unspent) 7.03245484 BTC
1LoVtEkrgyBPDfnhjrgAxKdCezQqgTZMg8 - (Spent) 6.23043885 BTC
1FpPoRuqs9quNv15AW49SLRZaCMcDPLe47 - (Spent) 5.17836039 BTC
1LTcR1u4zWp5RA6HArYzyNDEK9ghznpCQY - (Spent) 4.77989047 BTC
1NzDR8nctRGo2Q1dTYvyfwC1ojRbyE7U8H - (Spent) 4.62705425 BTC
1ctwnbd2GpxzNFZWyipXhPMWHM5pUB4Er - (Unspent) 4.32608664 BTC
1FvfFpJHcVZBc36oSwxKr2rmEzGwN2ScS6 - (Unspent) 4.22554293 BTC
1PZyCJNAuBnyKQRpE2rhJnoqhRu4zf9s4N - (Spent) 3.64234345 BTC
1ES4JqFigkBCD25h1z8YEuJokayKjfQALP - (Spent) 3.55097889 BTC
12mZVMWH6y4ZwZkX8Dzd1LDi2DCJVVAPZv - (Spent) 3.35294079 BTC
1HVPLPjp4KbD3v27whwthbrCnttJYjbt8J - (Spent) 3.27263024 BTC
15vbjLckRftHzKKehVR6xFBdpjBXjK8wAx - (Spent) 3.17929868 BTC
1KbceGdKqWjT4uFxMipvtMdyjrGAGUkj5r - (Spent) 3.08092967 BTC
1698dp8x7LQQxUd1wSMAowTKMFufedAYTs - (Spent) 3.06221929 BTC
19DqEMgspPxdPqRzuHygepcPdStSdusK6m - (Unspent) 3.02045628 BTC
1EWqWgBewSAL5gK6M9F9vA4zoiRZ64xrKd - (Spent) 2.92740601 BTC
1NuwS2ycdEYsh3PSUL9xnjMgpd3NVwCd5G - (Spent) 2.90808001 BTC
1GHxHr2Vn7BYwzwFQY3yeuGCYDo4vnStAU - (Spent) 2.90182751 BTC
19utf3yHqShMvMeYkSUP5iuJ7zbGxHruKq - (Unspent) 2.88482313 BTC
17TEXR9Nmv9xfGDMer4eKMaMwWsNa59w4o - (Unspent) 2.88479089 BTC
1P2JHNPLqAc9VU3MvT4VuRvkwj7m99hzw - (Spent) 2.87513535 BTC
1Fdpz7ywj97BAZ2jyrfDpVoLYM6vfV5Phu - (Spent) 2.50861081 BTC
13RJGGYtBYxSWkYw7YR4ez1JQq3q5sHAW7 - (Unspent) 2.49549327 BTC
174g4aiaFma15ptudon3YKCrJ6XUcsQ4h2 - (Spent) 2.36629934 BTC
17o4Y9nHRbvLCeVoffPMewbjeMsC6RCRSa - (Unspent) 2.28453104 BTC
34QjytsE8GVRbUBvYNheftqJ5CHfDHvQRD - (Unspent) 2.22697006 BTC
12aKBVF8V4W8qAE1uc6EbJSxkaq1igAVrX - (Unspent) 2.17071314 BTC
1JPfR3smqKu72kvEuYnD6VHEdA4CCN7PUR - (Spent) 2.16760942 BTC
14wVA385b9pseJDzENZTqUokWYdG89ukQH - (Spent) 2.14407525 BTC
1FnaiTCqX8YKGHKaVNWSi8U55vp6RnFBF1 - (Unspent) 2.08765924 BTC
18a7XxjM95wMbzHcxFymWAL9HrawMzyRQz - (Unspent) 2.0477259 BTC
1ESJSuf4noV7Y3sj9DsXBLnmPik339EnR2 - (Spent) 2.0139828 BTC -------------  This would be  a 472th  farm

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January 17, 2016, 07:00:27 PM
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Very intersting data philipma I don't think I have seen this before.  There are less then I was expecting.

Are you able to do the same with antpool?   Could we see how big operations are within it?
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January 17, 2016, 07:12:40 PM
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To the guy who said BTCC has its own farms: Please give me a source! I want to list as many people as possible.

3EUC1DfLuBw6Quk9uqud6MDkZwGL2x4DQF - (Unspent) 45.86974221 BTC This would be a 10.7ph farm

Hundred bucks says that it's HAOBTC, because they're located in China and have almost that exact hashrate.

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January 17, 2016, 07:31:25 PM
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BIG UPDATE:
-Removed bitfury's 100MW datacenter. It doesn't exist, it's the same DC as the 40MW one. If you look here their 100MW datacenter is only quoted as "up to" 100MW, they had a seriously misleading press release. Also, the 40MW and 100MW datacenter are located in the exact same technology park. Plus, they are never both mentioned in the same press release, kind of like superman and clark kent.
http://agenda.ge/news/43030/eng

-Removed bitfury's 8.5MW datacenter. It's actually owned and operated by Advania (datacenter company), and I can't tell how much is used for miner hosting. Maybe bitfury uses it, but right now I don't have a source for it.
http://stundin.is/frett/vafasamar-tengingar-staersta-gagnavers-landsins/

-Downgraded bitfury's 20MW datacenter to 10MW. Another misleading press release, if you see this news report (and translate it), you can see that they only pay for 9.9MW of power from the power company. If anyone has a conflicting (non-bitfury) source please help me out.
https://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnetgazeti.ge%2F2015%2F08%2F06%2F48634%2F&edit-text=&act=url

Actually, that article has tons of juicy info about bitfury. Namely, it appears they've spun down their icelandic mining operations (part of the reason for removing it), and their datacenter plan in finland failed. I suspect both of these have to do with electricity rates impacting the bottom line, but that's just my opinion. Apparently they pay $0.01c/kwh in Georgia when converted to USD, which is impressive (not 100% sure on this one, the article doesn't specify whether the rate is in USD or GEL).

Well, after the dust settled it looks like I was seriously underrepresenting the USA/China market share.
Anyways, that's all for me.

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January 17, 2016, 08:07:26 PM
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We have these public pages:
* https://www.f2pool.com/bitcoin-blocks
* https://www.f2pool.com/litecoin-blocks
* https://www.f2pool.com/regions
Afaik, BTCC does not own mining hardwares either.

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BIG UPDATE:
-Removed bitfury's 100MW datacenter. It doesn't exist, it's the same DC as the 40MW one. If you look here their 100MW datacenter is only quoted as "up to" 100MW, they had a seriously misleading press release. Also, the 40MW and 100MW datacenter are located in the exact same technology park. Plus, they are never both mentioned in the same press release, kind of like superman and clark kent.
http://agenda.ge/news/43030/eng

-Removed bitfury's 8.5MW datacenter. It's actually owned and operated by Advania (datacenter company), and I can't tell how much is used for miner hosting. Maybe bitfury uses it, but right now I don't have a source for it.
http://stundin.is/frett/vafasamar-tengingar-staersta-gagnavers-landsins/

-Downgraded bitfury's 20MW datacenter to 10MW. Another misleading press release, if you see this news report (and translate it), you can see that they only pay for 9.9MW of power from the power company. If anyone has a conflicting (non-bitfury) source please help me out.
https://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnetgazeti.ge%2F2015%2F08%2F06%2F48634%2F&edit-text=&act=url

Actually, that article has tons of juicy info about bitfury. Namely, it appears they've spun down their icelandic mining operations (part of the reason for removing it), and their datacenter plan in finland failed. I suspect both of these have to do with electricity rates impacting the bottom line, but that's just my opinion. Apparently they pay $0.01c/kwh in Georgia when converted to USD, which is impressive (not 100% sure on this one, the article doesn't specify whether the rate is in USD or GEL).

Well, after the dust settled it looks like I was seriously underrepresenting the USA/China market share.
Anyways, that's all for me.

Interesting to see one thing I can think of they might want some empty spots for their new chip once a full miner is ready.    So if they do have space right no its good short term... but long term I would guess once new miner comes out it goes right into empty spots.

Also I could see them trying to unload some of the older miners to make space for the new ones.  But we still don't know how long till they are pumping them out.
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We have acquired a few thousands Avalon 6 and Antminer S7. The old S3 were mostly sold. Though we are currently running around 13PH, it is mainly due to seasonal power supply restrictions. We expect the hash rate to rise to 30 to 50 PH by mid-2016.

Does it include the future Bitmain 16 nm chip based miners or just the more A6 or S7?
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We have acquired a few thousands Avalon 6 and Antminer S7. The old S3 were mostly sold. Though we are currently running around 13PH, it is mainly due to seasonal power supply restrictions. We expect the hash rate to rise to 30 to 50 PH by mid-2016.

Does it include the future Bitmain 16 nm chip based miners or just the more A6 or S7?

I really don't think so, it's not cost effective for HAOBTC to spend extra money on more efficient hardware--their electricity costs are very low.

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We have acquired a few thousands Avalon 6 and Antminer S7. The old S3 were mostly sold. Though we are currently running around 13PH, it is mainly due to seasonal power supply restrictions. We expect the hash rate to rise to 30 to 50 PH by mid-2016.

Does it include the future Bitmain 16 nm chip based miners or just the more A6 or S7?

I really don't think so, it's not cost effective for HAOBTC to spend extra money on more efficient hardware--their electricity costs are very low.

We have been phasing out old machines - the S3s that appeared in the pictures I took and posted on this forum were all sold. As a bulk buyer we can afford to pay a significant amount in advance, as a result, we are often be able to receive new machines from the manufacturers earlier than the market and at lower prices. Quite often we find that we can make a nice chunk of money not doing actually mining but just reselling the machines we just get.
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We have been phasing out old machines - the S3s that appeared in the pictures I took and posted on this forum were all sold. As a bulk buyer we can afford to pay a significant amount in advance, as a result, we are often be able to receive new machines from the manufacturers earlier than the market and at lower prices. Quite often we find that we can make a nice chunk of money not doing actually mining but just reselling the machines we just get.

Thanks for answering all these questions.
Out of curiosity, how many MW of capacity do you have?

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I just wanted to say thanks for the great job armedmilitia!

So i wanted to get more 'into' the hole mining thing. So just wanted to write down my thought (please tell me if im wrong)

1. Don't buy used hardware from ebay or w.e.
2. Buy new hardware, which has the best kw/power ratio.
3. Buy the hardware from someone, who also can host it.
4. Don't lease urself an miner. It just doen't give any return.
5. Maybe buy a contract - if lucky it can payout

-- if u mind having my post here, i can remove and post in the mining forum --

Any other suggestions for the beginners list?

Edit: One question, is it better to self say which pool you want, or just let the "hosting company" decide?

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I just wanted to say thanks for the great job armedmilitia!

So i wanted to get more 'into' the hole mining thing. So just wanted to write down my thought (please tell me if im wrong)

1. Don't buy used hardware from ebay or w.e.
2. Buy new hardware, which has the best kw/power ratio.
3. Buy the hardware from someone, who also can host it.
4. Don't lease urself an miner. It just doen't give any return.
5. Maybe buy a contract - if lucky it can payout

-- if u mind having my post here, i can remove and post in the mining forum --

Any other suggestions for the beginners list?

Edit: One question, is it better to self say which pool you want, or just let the "hosting company" decide?

This is probably the wrong section for this.
1.) Ebay is terrible, I agree.
2.) Not necessarily, it depends on your power cost and the cost of the miner
3.) Buying directly from a hoster is nice (you don't need to pay for shipping) but it's not necessary.
4.) I don't think you can lease miners anyways.
5.) Contracts suck! You'll lose in the long run.

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