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" Thou shalt have no other gods before me" - Ex 20:3 Idolatry is the worship of an idol or a physical object as a representation of a god. Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IdolatryMuslims worship the Black Stone... why? Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_StoneIf the Black Stone is the representation of God on Earth... Islam can be indicated as idolatry and hence been categorized not as Religion but as a sin. What do you think? Is the Black Stone the representation of God on Earth?Best regards.
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January 15, 2016, 02:38:34 PM |
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I don't know if you're trying to be a troll or what, but the definition of religion is as follows the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. So regardless of where your God or gods are located and how many of them you worship regardless of the form or shape they "are in" would be a religion.
If I went outside and starting worshipping a rock and called it the rock religion, and my followers had "services" at rock (music) concerts that's still considered a religion.
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I don't know if you're trying to be a troll or what, but the definition of religion is as follows the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. So regardless of where your God or gods are located and how many of them you worship regardless of the form or shape they "are in" would be a religion.
If I went outside and starting worshipping a rock and called it the rock religion, and my followers had "services" at rock (music) concerts that's still considered a religion.
Worshipping a rock is a sin of Idolatry as expressed in the first post. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" - Ex 20:3 No: worshipping a rock is not a Religion. The question here is: do muslims believe that "the Black Stone" is the rapresentation of God on Earth?Best regards.
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January 15, 2016, 02:48:17 PM |
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When I see word "religion" first thought that falls on my mind is beginning of zeitgeist movie. What is the biggest lie ever told? People need to read, read and read more but not books that parents and school give them. Try to see the truth!
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January 15, 2016, 02:51:24 PM |
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When I see word "religion" first thought that falls on my mind is beginning of zeitgeist movie. What is the biggest lie ever told? People need to read, read and read more but not books that parents and school give them. Try to see the truth! We would far better off if we were all the King of England.
As far as I understand the 25th of December starts a new year for the Sun (Winter Solstice - https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solstizio). Egyptians worshipped the Sun while Semitic religions worshipped the Moon.To give a basis for comparison a lot of religions in the world uses a human figure to follow born just after the winter solstice (25th of December). The basis for comparison in Christianity is Jesus Christ The basis for comparison in Islam is Muhammed. Islam also pray a stone: this for Christianity is idolatry. If the muslims believe that the Black Stone is the representation of God on Earth this is Idolatry for Christianity and hence a sin.If you have any doubt or information feel free to ask. Best regards.
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January 15, 2016, 02:58:13 PM |
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" Thou shalt have no other gods before me" - Ex 20:3 Idolatry is the worship of an idol or a physical object as a representation of a god. Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IdolatryMuslims worship the Black Stone... why? Ref: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pietra_NeraIf the Black Stone is the representation of God on Earth... Islam can be indicated as idolatry and hence been categorized not as Religion but as a sin. What do you think? Is the Black Stone the representation of God on Earth?Best regards. Christains worship a cross or statue, Hindus worship cows. all religions find a way to manifest their belief.
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January 15, 2016, 03:03:33 PM |
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Christains worship a cross or statue, Hindus worship cows. all religions find a way to manifest their belief.
Christians worship the place where Jesus Christ died (there is always Jesus Christ in the cross were you pray). If your church has a cross without Jesus Christ you can ask your local priest to change the cross because that offended you.The cross is to give faithful people a symbol to pray on: there is always Jesus Christ in the cross were you pray (is the same with paintings with Saints and so on...). What is important is the reference figure (Jesus Christ) not the cross itself.If your church has a cross without Jesus Christ you can ask your local priest to change the cross because that offended you. Best regards.
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January 15, 2016, 03:15:24 PM |
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Christains worship a cross or statue, Hindus worship cows. all religions find a way to manifest their belief.
Christians worship the place where Jesus Christ died (there is always Jesus Christ in the cross were you pray). If your church has a cross without Jesus Christ you can ask your local priest to change the cross because that offended you.The cross is to give faithful people a symbol to pray on: there is always Jesus Christ in the cross were you pray (is the same with paintings with Saints and so on...). What is important is the reference figure (Jesus Christ) not the cross itself.If your church has a cross without Jesus Christ you can ask your local priest to change the cross because that offended you. Best regards. Back in the 1200s most people couldnt afford to have a hand crafted cross. So what did they do, they made a simple and Idol looking cross which they wore around their necks. To anyone who did not understand the religion it looks like either a meaningless piece of wood or a representation of a False Idol.
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January 15, 2016, 03:18:45 PM |
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Back in the 1200s most people couldnt afford to have a hand crafted cross. So what did they do, they made a simple and Idol looking cross which they wore around their necks. To anyone who did not understand the religion it looks like either a meaningless piece of wood or a representation of a False Idol.
Infact Jews people do not worship a man (Jesus Christ). That way they have no idols to worship. Who's right: the Jews or Christianity? Best regards.
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January 15, 2016, 03:22:16 PM |
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Back in the 1200s most people couldnt afford to have a hand crafted cross. So what did they do, they made a simple and Idol looking cross which they wore around their necks. To anyone who did not understand the religion it looks like either a meaningless piece of wood or a representation of a False Idol.
Infact Jews people do not worship a man (Jesus Christ). That way they have no idols to worship. Who's right: the Jews or Christianity? Best regards. Neither its a circular argument. Both sides will us their own logic or holy texts too disprove the other one.
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January 15, 2016, 03:25:25 PM |
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Neither its a circular argument. Both sides will us their own logic or holy texts too disprove the other one.
If you believe in a Religion why don't you pick your own side? If you are an atheist that is the right thread for you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513Best regards.
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January 15, 2016, 03:30:07 PM |
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Neither its a circular argument. Both sides will us their own logic or holy texts too disprove the other one.
If you believe in a Religion why don't you pick your own side? If you are an atheist that is the right thread for you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513Best regards. I am allowed to comment on the topic you have posted, regardless of my personal standing.
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January 15, 2016, 03:32:45 PM |
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I am allowed to comment on the topic you have posted, regardless of my personal standing.
Thank You for your comment. Best regards.
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January 15, 2016, 04:08:37 PM |
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islam is the religion of the moon god
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January 15, 2016, 04:14:45 PM |
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islam is the religion of the moon god
I know: infact I'm not discussing about the difference of the God of Christianity/Judaism and Islam. I'm discussing the fact that Islam is worshipping a stone. Best regards.
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January 15, 2016, 04:33:42 PM |
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Failed troll attempt, Islam is the last religion by the book of God. Bible says there will be one more religion to come and every people should convert them. If you don't read book you don't know.
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January 15, 2016, 04:39:19 PM |
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Failed troll attempt,
No. Islam is the last religion by the book of God.
I know that. Bible says there will be one more religion to come and every people should convert them.
Please point the reference when you said something from a source. If you don't read book you don't know.
There is no Object Pronouns in this sentence: If I don't what? Best regards.
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January 15, 2016, 04:46:33 PM |
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there is one misconception .. horus is son of isis and osiris,also don't watch zeitgeist because it has a lot of wrong information,failure.and this example is just one of them.little google search will make you know.regards.
edit:also why don't you think it like that it is just a traveling,visiting there and meeting with other muslim peoples,when mention the ancestors with praying.
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January 15, 2016, 05:00:15 PM |
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there is one misconception .. horus is son of isis and osiris,also don't watch zeitgeist because it has a lot of wrong information,failure.and this example is just one of them.little google search will make you know.regards.
edit:also why don't you think it like that it is just a traveling,visiting there and meeting with other muslim peoples,when mention the ancestors with praying.
I don't understand your comment: 1. you say but never give references 2. you suggest but never too much 3. you write and you don't respect punctuation Would you rephrase your last comment so at least it has some information in it? Thank You. Best regards.
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January 15, 2016, 05:03:41 PM |
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jesus not god .
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