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January 20, 2016, 01:15:18 PM
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Does anyone have a good idea for distributing a PoS only coins for free? The distribution needs to be widespread and free and there needs to be robust mechanisms in place to prevent fraud such that one person only gets one payout. Using Bitcointalk usernames is just too limited and using IPs seems unreliable so what can be done?

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January 20, 2016, 01:23:52 PM
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Does anyone have a good idea for distributing a PoS only coins for free? The distribution needs to be widespread and free and there needs to be robust mechanisms in place to prevent fraud such that one person only gets one payout. Using Bitcointalk usernames is just too limited and using IPs seems unreliable so what can be done?

Why to give coins for free are you idiot ? Make an IPO !!!

People do not value "free" stuff.
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January 20, 2016, 01:29:59 PM
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Does anyone have a good idea for distributing a PoS only coins for free? The distribution needs to be widespread and free and there needs to be robust mechanisms in place to prevent fraud such that one person only gets one payout. Using Bitcointalk usernames is just too limited and using IPs seems unreliable so what can be done?

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January 20, 2016, 01:31:27 PM
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Does anyone have a good idea for distributing a PoS only coins for free? The distribution needs to be widespread and free and there needs to be robust mechanisms in place to prevent fraud such that one person only gets one payout. Using Bitcointalk usernames is just too limited and using IPs seems unreliable so what can be done?

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Proportional to the amount of BTC on this addresses to prevent scams.  
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January 20, 2016, 02:23:38 PM
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Does anyone have a good idea for distributing a PoS only coins for free? The distribution needs to be widespread and free and there needs to be robust mechanisms in place to prevent fraud such that one person only gets one payout. Using Bitcointalk usernames is just too limited and using IPs seems unreliable so what can be done?

Share drop on bitcoin addresses

Like CLAM?

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January 20, 2016, 02:25:21 PM
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Does anyone have a good idea for distributing a PoS only coins for free? The distribution needs to be widespread and free and there needs to be robust mechanisms in place to prevent fraud such that one person only gets one payout. Using Bitcointalk usernames is just too limited and using IPs seems unreliable so what can be done?

Why to give coins for free are you idiot ? Make an IPO !!!

People do not value "free" stuff.

It will be an experiment in distribution. There are enough IPOs already I would suggest...

But anyway, great suggestion, never been tried before...

Soooooooon...............
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January 20, 2016, 05:02:09 PM
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The CLAM like distribution is probably one of the best way, but still GCoin had the best distribution method. They used a mobile (Android and IOS) slots application rigged to win quite often so you got your coins according to the "effort" you've put in playing. That was the most entertaining distribution I've ever participated Smiley.
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January 20, 2016, 05:14:50 PM
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Does anyone have a good idea for distributing a PoS only coins for free? The distribution needs to be widespread and free and there needs to be robust mechanisms in place to prevent fraud such that one person only gets one payout. Using Bitcointalk usernames is just too limited and using IPs seems unreliable so what can be done?

Why to give coins for free are you idiot ? Make an IPO !!!

People do not value "free" stuff.
The funny part of this is that is real. I mean a lot of Free Distribution coins failed because 1,claimers dumped in 2 minutes after the coin hit an exchange, 2, nobody wanted to buy after, cause they will buy practically "nothing".
Low price ICOs could work i guess

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January 20, 2016, 07:55:33 PM
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navigate to

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Cryptography

“MachineGuid”. This key is generated uniquely during the installation of Windows.
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January 22, 2016, 06:32:42 AM
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The problem with clams is it relies on people owning the currencies used to create drop addresses so such giveaway is initially skewed towards coin holders.

How about selecting a bunch of likely coins, then filtering out a certain balance range to remove dust, exchanges, and excessive pre mines.

Another system would be to require some proof of something, captcha coin for example used filling out captchas as the work alternative.
It would be interesting to do an adclick system as long it isn't gameable.

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January 22, 2016, 08:09:18 AM
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The problem with clams is it relies on people owning the currencies used to create drop addresses so such giveaway is initially skewed towards coin holders.

How about selecting a bunch of likely coins, then filtering out a certain balance range to remove dust, exchanges, and excessive pre mines.

Another system would be to require some proof of something, captcha coin for example used filling out captchas as the work alternative.
It would be interesting to do an adclick system as long it isn't gameable.
Yeah but this method doesn't filter out sockpuppets, which is the major problem of the distributions i guess

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January 22, 2016, 09:18:27 AM
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navigate to

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Cryptography

“MachineGuid”. This key is generated uniquely during the installation of Windows.

The Machine GUID is fixed in the registry, but is changable if you have admin privileges. MachineGuid was quite often an issue when someone deployed several machines from a Ghost image, to resove these issues people made several scripts to change the GUID.
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January 22, 2016, 09:22:12 AM
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The problem with clams is it relies on people owning the currencies used to create drop addresses so such giveaway is initially skewed towards coin holders.

How about selecting a bunch of likely coins, then filtering out a certain balance range to remove dust, exchanges, and excessive pre mines.

Another system would be to require some proof of something, captcha coin for example used filling out captchas as the work alternative.
It would be interesting to do an adclick system as long it isn't gameable.
Yeah but this method doesn't filter out sockpuppets, which is the major problem of the distributions i guess

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Using previous coin addresses is not gameable by sock puppets, neither is requiring captcha's.

Using addresses is 100% reliant on someone owning some coins.
Using captcha's is 100% reliant on someone doing a repetitive and is a human reliant task.

It amuses me to consider creating 10 different low user interest coins with careful consideration to make them unappealable to exchanges, thereby not being listed at all. Then using those 10 coins for address based distribution.

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January 22, 2016, 09:53:37 AM
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The problem with clams is it relies on people owning the currencies used to create drop addresses so such giveaway is initially skewed towards coin holders.

How about selecting a bunch of likely coins, then filtering out a certain balance range to remove dust, exchanges, and excessive pre mines.

Another system would be to require some proof of something, captcha coin for example used filling out captchas as the work alternative.
It would be interesting to do an adclick system as long it isn't gameable.
Yeah but this method doesn't filter out sockpuppets, which is the major problem of the distributions i guess

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Using previous coin addresses is not gameable by sock puppets, neither is requiring captcha's.

Using addresses is 100% reliant on someone owning some coins.
Using captcha's is 100% reliant on someone doing a repetitive and is a human reliant task.

It amuses me to consider creating 10 different low user interest coins with careful consideration to make them unappealable to exchanges, thereby not being listed at all. Then using those 10 coins for address based distribution.
I was speaking about that captcha idea. How can you filter a sockpuppet with a captcha?  Or i just misunderstood you about this

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January 22, 2016, 10:14:16 AM
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I understand you now, I was considering using them as a faucet style captcha where you could sit there for 6 hours clicking on them, as opposed to single captcha per user - in which case sock puppet mania indeed.

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January 22, 2016, 10:27:26 AM
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You can try distributing it per email address associated with the coin address or maybe facebook account just like how STR were distributed. i like the first part however.

or you can just run a dice game and for each user who has the address stake can receive.

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January 22, 2016, 10:42:36 AM
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You can try distributing it per email address associated with the coin address or maybe facebook account just like how STR were distributed. i like the first part however.

or you can just run a dice game and for each user who has the address stake can receive.
With the email address distribution it's the same problem with sock puppets. The Facebook method wouldn't work because people around cryptos doesn't really use facebook. IF we speak about social networks from crypto-perspective Twitter is the leader.

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January 23, 2016, 12:35:17 AM
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No matter which distribution model you gonna choose, there will always be persons which call it unfair.
The best model is indeed to distribute the coin equally to a fixed amount of people.

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January 23, 2016, 12:48:57 AM
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No matter which distribution model you gonna choose, there will always be persons which call it unfair.
The best model is indeed to distribute the coin equally to a fixed amount of people.

Thats exactly it, the only problem is to uniquely identify these people and make sure that one person only gets one payout. No matter what you do it seems that people will be able to make several accounts and pretend to be different people etc. unless you start asking for ID which is not going to work.

So, I have been thinking along the lines of some sort of system where the wallet is "licenced" i.e. has a unique "licence" number or generates a hash from some collected data on the host computer and uses that to create the coin addresses in such a way that every coin address contains a string which is unique to that particular wallet. Does that make sense?

That should make it hard to fake, you would need two or more computers.

Soooooooon...............
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January 23, 2016, 01:57:41 AM
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unless you start asking for ID which is not going to work

Why won't that work?

My other idea is to make the recipient consume a resource which is more expensive than the current market value of the tokens distributed, e.g. verified mobile numbers. But apparently in some locales, mobile numbers can be obtained for free in unlimited quantities (or am I mistaken about that?).

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