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October 12, 2017, 09:21:46 PM
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@Ether Delta

I agree that Ether Delta (and exchanges like it) are probably some of the best DEX iimplementations thus far because they do not use IOUs or derivatives. However, seeing as though you can only trade ERC20 tokens (which are effectively all very risky and volatile investments) they are still not ideal.

I am still awaiting a more optimal DEX that can exchange tokens between different blockchain without IOUs or derivatives.
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October 20, 2017, 09:30:16 AM
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In case you have missed it, BarterDex is near release. It is a full exchange based on Atomic Swaps. In fact it is the most advanced Atomic Swaps solution available now.

http://coremedia.info/blockchain-news/item/836-barterdex-atomic-swaps-made-easy

It includes the following features:
  • Realtime orderbooks
  • Update your prices in realtime
  • Liquidity multiplier: you can place multiple orders with the same funds, when any gets filled the others get cancelled
  • Electrum lite mode: no need to download the full blockchains of the coins you trade
  • Variable confirmations preference setting: from zeroconf (25-30 seconds per trade but less secure) up to full notarization on Bitcoin blockchain
  • Portfolio api: set percentage of coins you want and it automatically trades towards that goal
  • Easy to use GUI (in development)

Among the coins supported (or soon to be), are: Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dash, Zcash, Stratis, Komodo, PIVX, Vertcoin, Dogecoin and 80+ other coins, including Komodo's assetchains and fiat pegs... more will be added as soon as they update their code to include Cltv & gettxout or their equivalent

Whitepaper
https://supernet.org/en/technology/whitepapers/barterdex-a-practical-native-dex

Video Demos (using a basic ugly gui with command line, pretty gui is in development)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XovwcWnZ9vM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf371VQRh0M

General video about Komodo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb7An2CGBQw



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October 21, 2017, 02:13:01 PM
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In case you have missed it, BarterDex is near release. It is a full exchange based on Atomic Swaps. In fact it is the most advanced Atomic Swaps solution available now.

http://coremedia.info/blockchain-news/item/836-barterdex-atomic-swaps-made-easy

It includes the following features:
  • Realtime orderbooks
  • Update your prices in realtime
  • Liquidity multiplier: you can place multiple orders with the same funds, when any gets filled the others get cancelled
  • Electrum lite mode: no need to download the full blockchains of the coins you trade
  • Variable confirmations preference setting: from zeroconf (25-30 seconds per trade but less secure) up to full notarization on Bitcoin blockchain
  • Portfolio api: set percentage of coins you want and it automatically trades towards that goal
  • Easy to use GUI (in development)

Among the coins supported (or soon to be), are: Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dash, Zcash, Stratis, Komodo, PIVX, Vertcoin, Dogecoin and 80+ other coins, including Komodo's assetchains and fiat pegs... more will be added as soon as they update their code to include Cltv & gettxout or their equivalent

Whitepaper
https://supernet.org/en/technology/whitepapers/barterdex-a-practical-native-dex

Video Demos (using a basic ugly gui with command line, pretty gui is in development)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XovwcWnZ9vM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf371VQRh0M

General video about Komodo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb7An2CGBQw



Superb technology! This is definitely going to be amongs most successful DEX in the future. Liquidity multiplier seems niiice feature Wink
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October 22, 2017, 07:42:21 PM
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Please write here another decentralized stock exchange.
RuDEX

https://rudex.org
Thank you!
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October 22, 2017, 08:03:59 PM
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@Ether Delta

I agree that Ether Delta (and exchanges like it) are probably some of the best DEX iimplementations thus far because they do not use IOUs or derivatives. However, seeing as though you can only trade ERC20 tokens (which are effectively all very risky and volatile investments) they are still not ideal.

I am still awaiting a more optimal DEX that can exchange tokens between different blockchain without IOUs or derivatives.

I feel etherdelta could be way better if they make some improvements to their interface and the mechanism they use because it's very hard to perform simple actions and it's not user friendly. I get some people already use it with their eyes closed but something that is suposed to receive all kinds of public needs to be more easy and simple to use in my opinion.




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November 20, 2017, 03:57:02 AM
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@Ether Delta

I agree that Ether Delta (and exchanges like it) are probably some of the best DEX iimplementations thus far because they do not use IOUs or derivatives. However, seeing as though you can only trade ERC20 tokens (which are effectively all very risky and volatile investments) they are still not ideal.

I am still awaiting a more optimal DEX that can exchange tokens between different blockchain without IOUs or derivatives.
As a day trader, i don't agree ether delta is the best DEX. It need to fix how that system work, many lost money on that exchange because of mistake in place order.

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November 20, 2017, 07:32:20 AM
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Grewal Satinder has released the first full working BarterDex gui, it's for advanced users and requires some learning curve though. This is the first really working Atomic Swaps Dex, not the usual buzzwords or press releases:

https://github.com/SuperNETorg/BarterDEX-Simple/releases

More info here:

https://medium.com/@komodoplatform/mega-post-updates-information-and-explanations-about-the-komodo-barterdex-a27dea784918

Other more noob friendly gui are in development, one could be released this week

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December 08, 2017, 04:18:49 PM
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Grewal Satinder has released the first full working BarterDex gui, it's for advanced users and requires some learning curve though. This is the first really working Atomic Swaps Dex, not the usual buzzwords or press releases:

https://github.com/SuperNETorg/BarterDEX-Simple/releases

More info here:

https://medium.com/@komodoplatform/mega-post-updates-information-and-explanations-about-the-komodo-barterdex-a27dea784918

Other more noob friendly gui are in development, one could be released this week
Komodo Platform’s BarterDEX will be turning heads in 2018! GUI is currently in beta testing, new releases every week.
OVER 15,000 ATOMIC SWAPS www.dexstats.info

Komodo Website: https://komodoplatform.com/en
*NEW*BarterDEX WP: https://komodo.ocloud.de/index.php/s/lwdiBny0IkH3vxa#pdfviewer
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December 29, 2017, 04:45:30 PM
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Anybody know any good resources about DEX?

List of DEXes which work now, comparison, newbie guides etc?
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January 07, 2018, 04:53:10 PM
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So how do you invest in Barter DEX?  Do they have their own coins (ICO) or do we have to buy Komodo?

Grewal Satinder has released the first full working BarterDex gui, it's for advanced users and requires some learning curve though. This is the first really working Atomic Swaps Dex, not the usual buzzwords or press releases:

https://github.com/SuperNETorg/BarterDEX-Simple/releases

More info here:

https://medium.com/@komodoplatform/mega-post-updates-information-and-explanations-about-the-komodo-barterdex-a27dea784918

Other more noob friendly gui are in development, one could be released this week
Komodo Platform’s BarterDEX will be turning heads in 2018! GUI is currently in beta testing, new releases every week.
OVER 15,000 ATOMIC SWAPS www.dexstats.info

Komodo Website: https://komodoplatform.com/en
*NEW*BarterDEX WP: https://komodo.ocloud.de/index.php/s/lwdiBny0IkH3vxa#pdfviewer
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January 07, 2018, 05:17:19 PM
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So how do you invest in Barter DEX?  Do they have their own coins (ICO) or do we have to buy Komodo?

Komodo will certainly benefit from it because if you want ~5 seconds swaps you need a Kmd "security deposit" of equal value. The more people want to trade and the more Kmd will be locked this way.

The trading fee is only 1/777 from seller side, the amount goes to the DEX asset holders. This asset was traded on Nxt Asset Exchange as InstantDEXbut it's now being migrated to its own Komodo assetchain called DEX. You can buy it on Nxt AE and swap until march or buy DEX directly on BarterDex.

Here's a flowchart of DEX revenues (and other Komodo Assets): https://forum.supernet.org/t/supernet-revenue-flow-chart/265

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January 19, 2018, 11:02:25 AM
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So how do you invest in Barter DEX?  Do they have their own coins (ICO) or do we have to buy Komodo?

Komodo will certainly benefit from it because if you want ~5 seconds swaps you need a Kmd "security deposit" of equal value. The more people want to trade and the more Kmd will be locked this way.

The trading fee is only 1/777 from seller side, the amount goes to the DEX asset holders. This asset was traded on Nxt Asset Exchange as InstantDEXbut it's now being migrated to its own Komodo assetchain called DEX. You can buy it on Nxt AE and swap until march or buy DEX directly on BarterDex.

Here's a flowchart of DEX revenues (and other Komodo Assets): https://forum.supernet.org/t/supernet-revenue-flow-chart/265


so where is Barter DEX download link? i can't find it  Grin
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January 19, 2018, 11:08:36 AM
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so where is Barter DEX download link? i can't find it  Grin

The latest release is on Komodo github: https://github.com/KomodoPlatform/BarterDEX/releases

There are a few videos that explain the basics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drl4FEuEoBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1cbzQLUneA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XevjsvhhXn8

For everything else there is the #tradebots channel in Komodo Slack

If the learning curve is still too high, wait for the simple gui release. Anyway people that wish to squeeze the most gains out of this Dex will need the advanced gui.

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January 22, 2018, 08:13:35 PM
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Crypto bridge is great.  Downloading the exchange program is much more secure than using a centralized exchange via a web browser.  Also if you buy bridge coin you can earn a percentage of the exchange fees.  No other exchange I found does this.

http://crypto-bridge.com/
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January 23, 2018, 04:15:01 AM
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Barter DEX has cool tech. I think Atomic Swaps may be the future of DEXs, but I can't believe people are actually using it in any sort of meaningful amounts in its current implementation. The GUI is super haggard and not easy to understand or use. Stats such as X number of successful atomic swaps can be easily gamed. Until the usability improves I can't really say I'd recommend it to anyone.

I still prefer Bitshares at the moment... best combination of everything... GUI, volume, trading pairs, and features. https://wallet.bitshares.org/?r=del.coinhoarder

The new Waves wallet is nice too. I wasn't much a fan of their old one, but their new one is much better: https://beta.wavesplatform.com/
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January 27, 2018, 11:23:12 PM
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Anyone knows about some new DEX which is going to have an ICO in coming months? Investing in a good DEX ICO could bring a very nice profit.
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January 28, 2018, 12:27:41 PM
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Didn't see barterdex anywhere, only for desktop at the moment and has atomic swaps active.

https://barterdex.supernet.org/
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March 06, 2018, 10:32:18 AM
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Didn't see barterdex anywhere, only for desktop at the moment and has atomic swaps active.

https://barterdex.supernet.org/
BarterDEX is a rebrand of InstantDEX. It's a very good concept indeed, but the fact that you have to download the blockchains of every single cryptocurrency you want to trade is a quite huge minus Tongue

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March 06, 2018, 10:33:51 AM
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Didn't see barterdex anywhere, only for desktop at the moment and has atomic swaps active.

https://barterdex.supernet.org/
BarterDEX is a rebrand of InstantDEX. It's a very good concept indeed, but the fact that you have to download the blockchains of every single cryptocurrency you want to trade is quite a huge a minus Tongue

Wrong! You can use the Electrum Lite Mode on every Coin in Barterdex without downloading the whole blockchain Tongue
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March 06, 2018, 10:46:14 AM
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This is good topic, Here are what I got:

paradex.io - ERC20 token dex platform powered by the 0x protocol
dextroid - They claimed as the next generation dex, but it seems still beta phase
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