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[DarkStar_]

I might try this out with 0.01BTC later. Could I get an estimated time for getting an return?
Also, you might want to put this in investor based games. That is what Gladimor did with Delta Investments.

[Dekker3D]

But I think even if you have clear motive, people are already bleeding with scammers all over the place so most are no longer trusting such programs. I wish you luck though and hope that this is a true one.

[player514]

I can vouch for lottomax's service over on hackforums. i have invested much there and have previously spoken to him about bringing this service to bitcointalk. Now that it is here, investment is a good way to make essentially free money given that you have the patience to wait out the period.

[rajat08]

I am interested in this. For start i will go with 0.01.
Just few questions-
1. what happens if you didn't mined enough or traded enough?
2. Can you give an exact date for 0.01 amount investment?

[Zeroxal]

I am interested in this. For start i will go with 0.01.
Just few questions-
1. what happens if you didn't mined enough or traded enough?
2. Can you give an exact date for 0.01 amount investment?

I doubt that there is not enough mining that will mine 0.01 btc. If it didn't mine enough (0.00000001%), you will get the 20% from ME.
It will take 1-2 days to get the profit.

If you've made up your mind. Shoot me a PM

[notaek]

So basically he will mine for us using his botnet? How can you assure that profit is guaranteed within 2-7 days? And can you please elaborate on this statement : "I will cover any losses"? And what are the coins that will basically be mined/traded?

Would like to join after you answer them.


Edit: Not interested. Thanks.

[Zeroxal]

So basically he will mine for us using his botnet? How can you assure that profit is guaranteed within 2-7 days? And can you please elaborate on this statement : "I'll cover any loses"? And what are the coins that will basically be mined/traded?

Would like to join after you answer them.

That basically means that if there is any trouble (lottomax disappears), I'll cover all your losses. I set the maximum to 0.1 btc because I don't want to risk too much. I have never had trouble with him and he paid out over thousands of dollars as profit. Sorry for the typo.(Loses) Your typo
To be honest, I have no idea how lottomax does that. He seems to be a very experienced trader and has tried to sell his methods too - for a enormous amount of money.

The profit time range is dependent on amount invested. The absolute dead line is 7 days.

[Indianacoin]

Can you promise me that you will return my principal if there are some losses?
If yes then I will invest without escrow for more profit.

Please pm me with your payment address and mention the exact time when I will get back my investment principal+profit.

The vouches on HF aren't fake. His thread has over 1600 posts, 80% from them are vouches - and only upgraded members can post in the section/thread, so mostly reputable members vouch for him. I was one of the first people that invested. I didn't believe it at first and thought it was a ponzi, so I stopped after my first investment. But then I saw people investing thousands of dollars into his service and all got a nice profit from it - so I decided to invest in his service further.

So you are ♥Spartan (http://hackforums.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=646178) ?

[Hazir]

So it is guarantee investment which bring you up to 10% -20% no matter what (since you are covering any loses). Isn't it a little too much, it's a perfect investment?
Well Op, what it is for you in this trade, how much of it goes for you if you can earn from it and still pay people their share?

[melisande]

I might risk this since you agreed that the funds can be kept with the escrow till after payment, if you agree to pay me 15% in 2 days I will keep 0,039 btc with the escrow.
Pm me if you agree.

[Zeroxal]

Can you promise me that you will return my principal if there are some losses?
If yes then I will invest without escrow for more profit.

Please pm me with your payment address and mention the exact time when I will get back my investment principal+profit.

The vouches on HF aren't fake. His thread has over 1600 posts, 80% from them are vouches - and only upgraded members can post in the section/thread, so mostly reputable members vouch for him. I was one of the first people that invested. I didn't believe it at first and thought it was a ponzi, so I stopped after my first investment. But then I saw people investing thousands of dollars into his service and all got a nice profit from it - so I decided to invest in his service further.

So you are ♥Spartan (http://hackforums.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=646178) ?

I'm basically just a middleman and guarantee that you will get your money back no matter what + profit.
I am not Sparta

So it is guarantee investment which bring you up to 10% -20% no matter what (since you are covering any loses). Isn't it a little too much, it's a perfect investment?
Well Op, what it is for you in this trade, how much of it goes for you if you can earn from it and still pay people their share?

That's what it is aiming to be
I actually get a share from lottomax for managing his sales. Don't ask me how lottomax still manages to make money from it. I don't know...

I might risk this since you agreed that the funds can be kept with the escrow till after payment, if you agree to pay me 15% in 2 days I will keep 0,039 btc with the escrow.
Pm me if you agree.

If you're using an escrow I'll only provide you 10% profit in 2 days.

[simon66]

How does it work with the escrow? Can I choose my own escrow from here, bitcointalk?

[Zeroxal]

How does it work with the escrow? Can I choose my own escrow from here, bitcointalk?

Yes, you can use escrow. However you won't get 20% profit, but 10% by using it.

[rajat08]

I am interested. Pm me. Also contact escrow SebastianJu for this and If he holds the funds then I am in.

[Zeroxal]

I am interested. Pm me. Also contact escrow SebastianJu for this and If he holds the funds then I am in.

Sure, please contact him and me directly

[Indianacoin]

Since this is my first investment so I started with a low principal.

I have sent 0.01987043 BTC to op. Here is the Tx.

According to the said calculation I should receive 0.01987043 + 20%= 0.02384451 BTC in 2 days.
So lets see what happens. If everything goes well I will re-invest

Please dont forget to add transaction fees from your wallet so that I receive exactly 0.02384451 BTC.

[oneidentity]

Since this is my first investment so I started with a low principal.

I have sent 0.01987043 BTC to op. Here is the Tx.

According to the said calculation I should receive 0.01987043 + 20%= 0.02384451 BTC in 2 days.
So lets see what happens. If everything goes well I will re-invest

Please dont forget to add transaction fees from your wallet so that I receive exactly 0.02384451 BTC.

Will be watching the process closely.

[Zeroxal]

Since this is my first investment so I started with a low principal.

I have sent 0.01987043 BTC to op. Here is the Tx.

According to the said calculation I should receive 0.01987043 + 20%= 0.02384451 BTC in 2 days.
So lets see what happens. If everything goes well I will re-invest

Please dont forget to add transaction fees from your wallet so that I receive exactly 0.02384451 BTC.

Sure, I won't miss anything. I will send the investment + profit in about 2 days to the address you gave me. Thanks for your business.

[DarkStar_]

I have sent a micro deposit of 0.01BTC to him.
tx: https://blockchain.info/tx/7835331ce91842dd0c679e286f36c73181c65c1fb84911bfb11e9eae5dfdf7ff

Will update when I receive 0.012BTC back.

[RoughLyfe]

Since this is my first investment so I started with a low principal.

I have sent 0.01987043 BTC to op. Here is the Tx.

According to the said calculation I should receive 0.01987043 + 20%= 0.02384451 BTC in 2 days.
So lets see what happens. If everything goes well I will re-invest

Please dont forget to add transaction fees from your wallet so that I receive exactly 0.02384451 BTC.

Waiting to see what happens as well since 99.9% of all vouches are bought/friends vouching or something else on HF.Since posting a bad review is considered sales thrashing which will get your post removed

Im not calling you out op,its just a known fact.

[Zeroxal]

Since this is my first investment so I started with a low principal.

I have sent 0.01987043 BTC to op. Here is the Tx.

According to the said calculation I should receive 0.01987043 + 20%= 0.02384451 BTC in 2 days.
So lets see what happens. If everything goes well I will re-invest

Please dont forget to add transaction fees from your wallet so that I receive exactly 0.02384451 BTC.

Waiting to see what happens as well since 99.9% of all vouches are bought/friends vouching or something else on HF.Since posting a bad review is considered sales thrashing which will get your post removed

Im not calling you out op,its just a known fact.

Thanks for the reminder.
But do you think someone would hire thousands of users to vouch for his thread totalling 1900 posts in just 2 months? He actually has the payment proof of every investment.
Once again, I'm not sure how he gets all the profit. If something suspicious should happen and members of this forum have invested, I will cover all your losses and stop this service immediately.

[RoughLyfe]

Its been done on HF but once again not trying to start or imply anything.I will invest if people have vouched on here.Other than that good luck with sales OP!

[Zeroxal]

Its been done on HF but once again not trying to start or imply anything.I will invest if people have vouched on here.Other than that good luck with sales OP!

Thanks man
Hope to see you soon on my investors list

[peta4e]

what is maximum amount to invest with you,I want to invest some using escrow.
let me know what is maximum investment cap for this.

[Zeroxal]

what is maximum amount to invest with you,I want to invest some using escrow.
let me know what is maximum investment cap for this.

The maximum amount with escrow is 0.05 btc.

[scott btc]

what is maximum amount to invest with you,I want to invest some using escrow.
let me know what is maximum investment cap for this.

The maximum amount with escrow is 0.05 btc.

Who will handle or become escrow here ? and i see the max amount is 0.1 not 0.05 on first page. corect ?

[amrulshare]

looks interesting, I wanted to try it. but I will look at the reviews of others first 

[rajat08]

what is maximum amount to invest with you,I want to invest some using escrow.
let me know what is maximum investment cap for this.

The maximum amount with escrow is 0.05 btc.

Who will handle or become escrow here ? and i see the max amount is 0.1 not 0.05 on first page. corect ?

There are many escrow here. I am also investing in this using escrow service of SebastianJu.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1102721.0

And because of escrow I think he is limiting to 0.05.

[Miniature]

I've added you on skype, hope we can do some good business

[Zeroxal]

what is maximum amount to invest with you,I want to invest some using escrow.
let me know what is maximum investment cap for this.

The maximum amount with escrow is 0.05 btc.

Who will handle or become escrow here ? and i see the max amount is 0.1 not 0.05 on first page. corect ?

There are many escrow here. I am also investing in this using escrow service of SebastianJu.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1102721.0

And because of escrow I think he is limiting to 0.05.

Thanks for your investment. You'll get your payment in 2-3 days

I've added you on skype, hope we can do some good business

Accepted your request. Hope we will do some good business too

[rajat08]

what is maximum amount to invest with you,I want to invest some using escrow.
let me know what is maximum investment cap for this.

The maximum amount with escrow is 0.05 btc.

Who will handle or become escrow here ? and i see the max amount is 0.1 not 0.05 on first page. corect ?

There are many escrow here. I am also investing in this using escrow service of SebastianJu.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1102721.0

And because of escrow I think he is limiting to 0.05.

Thanks for your investment. You'll get your payment in 2-3 days

If you are legit then I would invest again. Hope you are not scammer and to be on safe side I used escrow. Hoping to do business again with you.

[Zeroxal]

what is maximum amount to invest with you,I want to invest some using escrow.
let me know what is maximum investment cap for this.

The maximum amount with escrow is 0.05 btc.

Who will handle or become escrow here ? and i see the max amount is 0.1 not 0.05 on first page. corect ?

There are many escrow here. I am also investing in this using escrow service of SebastianJu.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1102721.0

And because of escrow I think he is limiting to 0.05.

Thanks for your investment. You'll get your payment in 2-3 days

If you are legit then I would invest again. Hope you are not scammer and to be on safe side I used escrow. Hoping to do business again with you.

Well, I promise I won't scam anybody and it's not worth it to lose my hard earned reputation on the forum. The only thing that might happen is that lottomax disappears (I forward every payment to him), which isn't that likely.
So I will actually limit the total investment amount to the current btc I can afford to lose. (About 0.3-0.4 btc at a time)

If something should happen, I promise that I will pay every single satoshi back.

[Zeroxal]

Since this is my first investment so I started with a low principal.

I have sent 0.01987043 BTC to op. Here is the Tx.

According to the said calculation I should receive 0.01987043 + 20%= 0.02384451 BTC in 2 days.
So lets see what happens. If everything goes well I will re-invest

Please dont forget to add transaction fees from your wallet so that I receive exactly 0.02384451 BTC.

Your payment has been sent. Please check and confirm that
Hope to do business with you soon.

[Indianacoin]

Your payment has been sent. Please check and confirm that
Hope to do business with you soon.

Yeah! I got my payment just now. Here is the Tx.

This is really a non-risky and awesome investment scheme, considering op is already a trusted member.

Payment was done more than expected!
Op sent me 0.024 BTC instead of 0.02384451 BTC which was the expected 20% profit!

Btw can I reinvest?

[Zeroxal]

Your payment has been sent. Please check and confirm that
Hope to do business with you soon.

Yeah! I got my payment just now. Here is the Tx.

This is really a non-risky and awesome investment scheme, considering op is already a trusted member.

Payment was done more than expected!
Op sent me 0.024 BTC instead of 0.02384451 BTC which was the expected 20% profit!

Btw can I reinvest?

Sure
I have PMed you the details

[RoughLyfe]

Your payment has been sent. Please check and confirm that
Hope to do business with you soon.

Yeah! I got my payment just now. Here is the Tx.

This is really a non-risky and awesome investment scheme, considering op is already a trusted member.

Payment was done more than expected!
Op sent me 0.024 BTC instead of 0.02384451 BTC which was the expected 20% profit!

Btw can I reinvest?

Sure
I have PMed you the details

Since its confirmed that this is a legit service I'm contacting you on Skype under the name "asdf"

[Indianacoin]

Started my second investment with 0.1 BTC. Tx

I think I will get 0.12 BTC in 3 days right?

I somewhat feel confident investing here

[Zeroxal]

Your payment has been sent. Please check and confirm that
Hope to do business with you soon.

Yeah! I got my payment just now. Here is the Tx.

This is really a non-risky and awesome investment scheme, considering op is already a trusted member.

Payment was done more than expected!
Op sent me 0.024 BTC instead of 0.02384451 BTC which was the expected 20% profit!

Btw can I reinvest?

Sure
I have PMed you the details

Since its confirmed that this is a legit service I'm contacting you on Skype under the name "asdf"

I've accepted your request

Started my second investment with 0.1 BTC. Tx

I think I will get 0.12 BTC in 3 days right?

I somewhat feel confident investing here

Thank you for your business . You'll get your investment + profit back on about 3 days

[Rago]

SCAMMER TRYING TO SCAM DONT DO DEAL WITH THIS SCAMMER BE SAFE BE HAPPY

[rajat08]

SCAMMER TRYING TO SCAM DONT DO DEAL WITH THIS SCAMMER BE SAFE BE HAPPY

Look who is saying. You are scammer.
If he is scammer why would he accept escrow in the first place.

[Rago]

SCAMMER TRYING TO SCAM DONT DO DEAL WITH THIS SCAMMER BE SAFE BE HAPPY

Look who is saying. You are scammer.
If he is scammer why would he accept escrow in the first place.

YOUR ARE SCAMMER RAJAT YOU FOOL NOOB I AM A SENIOR MEMBER RESPECT ME

[trix222]

Vouch for lotto/zeroxal i make profit since december with him and he even send me a bitcoin birthday present (lol).

[rezilient]

I am interested and I have sent you a pm.
I would want to know more details on how lottomax creates profit. As I know there are no guaranteed profit or I could be wrong.

I will vouch for this magical system if I have succesffuly turned my. 03BTC into 2BTC

[rajat08]

SCAMMER TRYING TO SCAM DONT DO DEAL WITH THIS SCAMMER BE SAFE BE HAPPY

Look who is saying. You are scammer.
If he is scammer why would he accept escrow in the first place.

YOUR ARE SCAMMER RAJAT YOU FOOL NOOB I AM A SENIOR MEMBER RESPECT ME

Scammers don't get respect from me or anyone on this forum.

[Rago]

SCAMMER TRYING TO SCAM DONT DO DEAL WITH THIS SCAMMER BE SAFE BE HAPPY

Look who is saying. You are scammer.
If he is scammer why would he accept escrow in the first place.

YOUR ARE SCAMMER RAJAT YOU FOOL NOOB I AM A SENIOR MEMBER RESPECT ME

Scammers don't get respect from me or anyone on this forum.

YOU ARE SCAMMER ACCEPT IT

[Indianacoin]

I will vouch for this magical system if I have succesffuly turned my. 03BTC into 2BTC

What a resilient joke! Read the damn op.

If you now how to calculate then your estimated return of investment will be 0.03 BTC + 20% = 0.036 BTC

No one will give you 2 BTC Lol! Are you high?

[rezilient]

I will vouch for this magical system if I have succesffuly turned my. 03BTC into 2BTC

What a resilient joke! Read the damn op.

If you now how to calculate then your estimated return of investment will be 0.03 BTC + 20% = 0.036 BTC

No one will give you 2 BTC Lol! Are you high?

You got it all wrong. I said if I turned my. 03 to 2 btc which is I will have to reinvest my capital until I reach my goal..

I wouldnt vouch for a service if it succesfully paid me only a few times.

[Zeroxal]

To rajat and darkstar:
You will get your investment and profit back in about 7 hours. Please send me your addresses if you haven't.

I'm happy to take new investments

[rajat08]

To rajat and darkstar:
You will get your investment and profit back in about 7 hours. Please send me your addresses if you haven't.

I'm happy to take new investments

If Thats so then I will reinvest in 7 hours.

[Zeroxal]

To rajat and darkstar:
You will get your investment and profit back in about 7 hours. Please send me your addresses if you haven't.

I'm happy to take new investments

If Thats so then I will reinvest in 7 hours.

Your payment has been send (+ bonus) please check.

Also, darkstar's payment has been sent too

[rajat08]

To rajat and darkstar:
You will get your investment and profit back in about 7 hours. Please send me your addresses if you haven't.

I'm happy to take new investments

If Thats so then I will reinvest in 7 hours.

Your payment has been send (+ bonus) please check.

Also, darkstar's payment has been sent too

Yes I confirm that I received the Payment.
Here is the Transaction

[DarkStar_]

To rajat and darkstar:
You will get your investment and profit back in about 7 hours. Please send me your addresses if you haven't.

I'm happy to take new investments

If Thats so then I will reinvest in 7 hours.

Your payment has been send (+ bonus) please check.

Also, darkstar's payment has been sent too

Thanks. Profit recieved! Will be reinvesting 0.05BTC soon.

[155UE]

With all the vouches so far, i think I might try investing in your service. Escrow is nice too.

[Zeroxal]

Thanks for all your investments! I hope you're enjoying your profit

With all the vouches so far, i think I might try investing in your service. Escrow is nice too.

Sure, just send me a PM

[amrulshare]

investmen 0.01 btc done txt  
return 0.012 BTC in 3 days or 2 day ?

[Zeroxal]

investmen 0.01 btc done txt  
return 0.012 BTC in 3 days or 2 day ?

Thanks for your investment! You'll receive your investment + profit back in about 2 days

[RoughLyfe]

I also invested into this,I need to wait 2 days in order to receive my money back

[james.lent]

For those who are unaware, lottomax is banned on hf (http://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5151115) , so i'd reckon placing extra precautions if you guys decide to invest.

[RoughLyfe]

For those who are unaware, lottomax is banned on hf (http://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5151115) , so i'd reckon placing extra precautions if you guys decide to invest.

From my experiences on hack forums,most people get banned because they speak up on the marketplace and expose scams.
But I have invested myself so I will wait in see the results,if I get scammed,which I consider very very unlikely.Then that would mean
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=543958
Has assisted in this scam and a few others.But then again,I doubt he has actually scammed anyone

[james.lent]

For those who are unaware, lottomax is banned on hf (http://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5151115) , so i'd reckon placing extra precautions if you guys decide to invest.

From my experiences on hack forums,most people get banned because they speak up on the marketplace and expose scams.
But I have invested myself so I will wait in see the results,if I get scammed,which I consider very very unlikely.Then that would mean
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=543958
Has assisted in this scam and a few others.But then again,I doubt he has actually scammed anyone

He was banned from running an obvious hyip (http://hackforums.net/reputation.php?uid=2961590&show=negative)

[RoughLyfe]

For those who are unaware, lottomax is banned on hf (http://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5151115) , so i'd reckon placing extra precautions if you guys decide to invest.

From my experiences on hack forums,most people get banned because they speak up on the marketplace and expose scams.
But I have invested myself so I will wait in see the results,if I get scammed,which I consider very very unlikely.Then that would mean
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=543958
Has assisted in this scam and a few others.But then again,I doubt he has actually scammed anyone

He was banned from running an obvious hyip (http://hackforums.net/reputation.php?uid=2961590&show=negative)

I can't see it but was it the service he is providing here?

[james.lent]

For those who are unaware, lottomax is banned on hf (http://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5151115) , so i'd reckon placing extra precautions if you guys decide to invest.

From my experiences on hack forums,most people get banned because they speak up on the marketplace and expose scams.
But I have invested myself so I will wait in see the results,if I get scammed,which I consider very very unlikely.Then that would mean
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=543958
Has assisted in this scam and a few others.But then again,I doubt he has actually scammed anyone

He was banned from running an obvious hyip (http://hackforums.net/reputation.php?uid=2961590&show=negative)

I can't see it but was it the service he is providing here?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1340560.msg13674024#msg13674024



Zeroxal claims to be lottomax's official partner , so just letting you guys know that lottomax has been banned on HF

[RoughLyfe]

Well if this turns out to be a scam,then I'm kinda fucked since I invested with no escrow.

[Indianacoin]

OMG!

What will happen to my 0.1 BTC that I invested yesterday?

james.lent, why do you inform us late bro?

But I think Zeroxal already said in op that he will cover everyone's loses.
So lets see.

[james.lent]

OMG!

What will happen to my 0.1 BTC that I invested yesterday?

james.lent, why do you inform us late bro?

But I think Zeroxal already said in op that he will cover everyone's loses.
So lets see.

Just stumbled upon this thread. Well on hf, they claim that he's still paying out and running it on other forums but i would suggest you guys to stop depositing as its obvious of whats going on.

[RoughLyfe]

OMG!

What will happen to my 0.1 BTC that I invested yesterday?

james.lent, why do you inform us late bro?

But I think Zeroxal already said in op that he will cover everyone's loses.
So lets see.

Just stumbled upon this thread. Well on hf, they claim that he's still paying out and running it on other forums but i would suggest you guys to stop depositing as its obvious of whats going on.

Well,I have faith in him that he will payout.Lets hope my faith is right

[rezilient]

OMG!

What will happen to my 0.1 BTC that I invested yesterday?

james.lent, why do you inform us late bro?

But I think Zeroxal already said in op that he will cover everyone's loses.
So lets see.

What?, you guys didnt bother to research it.. Even without visiting HF you can still Google it. He was banned because of breaking the market rule which is HYIP but according to hf users there were no scam that had happened until now.

[RoughLyfe]

OMG!

What will happen to my 0.1 BTC that I invested yesterday?

james.lent, why do you inform us late bro?

But I think Zeroxal already said in op that he will cover everyone's loses.
So lets see.

What you guys didnt bother to research it.. Even without visiting HF you can still Google it. He was banned because of breaking the market rule which is HYIP but according to hf users there were no scam that had happened until now.

I can't go on HF because you need an account to go on it.

[Indianacoin]

Alright. Lets wait for op to get online and he might find a solution for those who guys recently invested.

I do not believe op will scam here because he had already mentioned that he will return everyone's principal back if Lottomax hides out from the scene.

Also I believe op because he will not be willing to throw away an account with positive trust worth more than the amount invested.

So lets calm down and wait for him to find a possible solution.
I also hope I get my 0.1 BTC back at least if the scam going on is true. 

[RoughLyfe]

Alright. Lets wait for op to get online and he might find a solution for those who guys recently invested.

I do not believe op will scam here because he had already mentioned that he will return everyone's principal back if Lottomax hides out from the scene.

Also I believe op because he will not be willing to throw away an account with positive trust worth more than the amount invested.

So lets calm down and wait for him to find a possible solution.
I also hope I get my 0.1 BTC back at least if the scam going on is true. 

Theres no solution tbh,just wait the few days to get your investment + 20% back.I doubt he will scam,I just did my own separate research and from what I can conclude he is actually running a legit business here and is a good,kind guy.Or he is running a scam and is very hypocritical.

[rajat08]

Wow I was about to reinvest, as I got my first payment.Thanks for Heads up guyz.
Will wait and see if he is taking more investment or not.I am sure that if lottomax scammed him, he will pay from his pocket. He is really nice guy.

[Zeroxal]

Guys, calm down.
Lotto has always been fighting against omni on Hackforums. He got banned 2 days ago because Omni didn't belive his whole mining/trading thing.
Since he was banned, he opened his own forum: www.trustforums.com

I know the struggle, I thought I got scammed too when he was banned. But I still got my 0.3btc investment back yesterday. I reinvested 0.3 btc into him. I have always been suspicious about his methods, but he seems to make business over hundreds of bitcoin every day. Many investors invest over 10 bitcoins.

Well, I won't take any investments until I have paid the users that invested to this date. I don't want to make such a drama.

Thanks

[Indianacoin]

Uff! Thanks for giving us relief to some extent.

Since my first investment was quick and smooth so I though of investing more this time and after hearing what james.lent said I was really shocked.
Lets hope we get our investments back like the last time.

I know omni is very strict in his forum and so I dislike going there.
There are so many ponzi schemes opening up and sometimes omni overlooks them. Why is it that he banned lotto anyways? Might be he logged in with a different IP address and omni might have banned him for that reason.

Can you show me the link to his thread on trustforums.com?

[Zeroxal]

Uff! Thanks for giving us relief to some extent.

Since my first investment was quick and smooth so I though of investing more this time and after hearing what james.lent said I was really shocked.
Lets hope we get our investments back like the last time.

I know omni is very strict in his forum and so I dislike going there.
There are so many ponzi schemes opening up and sometimes omni overlooks them. Why is it that he banned lotto anyways? Might be he logged in with a different IP address and omni might have banned him for that reason.

Can you show me the link to his thread on trustforums.com?

His thread is here: http://trustforums.com/index.php?/topic/23-bitcoins-mining-and-trading-profit-guaranteed/

[Indianacoin]

Recently I joined on trustforums and saw the thread but he is giving 25% profit plus extra bonus.
And I got only 20.78% in my last investment.

So I reinvested 0.1 BTC will I get 0.1 + 25% = 0.125 BTC within 2 more days?

Since I am a returning customer so please consider paying 25% profit

[rezilient]

Recently I joined on trustforums and saw the thread but he is giving 25% profit plus extra bonus.
And I got only 20.78% in my last investment.

So I reinvested 0.1 BTC will I get 0.1 + 25% = 0.125 BTC within 2 more days?

Since I am a returning customer so please consider paying 25% profit

Zeroxal, stated that he will cover any losses if lottomax will ran away, so i guess it would be a fair deal in my opinion but you have to trust him for it.

[Zeroxal]

Recently I joined on trustforums and saw the thread but he is giving 25% profit plus extra bonus.
And I got only 20.78% in my last investment.

So I reinvested 0.1 BTC will I get 0.1 + 25% = 0.125 BTC within 2 more days?

Since I am a returning customer so please consider paying 25% profit

Well, as I am personally taking a big risk covering your losses, I think 20% for my customers is a fair profit. You can choose to invest to lotto directly, but I won't have any responsibility for your losses.

[mexxer-2]

1) Explain the role of escrow here
2) How do you guarantee that the "investors" will be refunded(with profit as you claim)? Do you have enough amount under the control of a neutral party?
3) Is question two in anyway related to escrow.
4) There is no way in heck mining can get you that amount of profit in that time period.
5) "Altcoin trading" is a commonly used term for noobs to describe their money is going in a ponzi

@Everyone, you do remember scrypt, that joke of a "investment" Primedime, cloudminr.io and countless other ponzis that did return your "investment" with profit before their seeding money was emptied and they were fully saturated right?

@OP, considering you do not have any information as to how the profit is derived, where the mining power comes from(could also come from a legit source which is being funded by the ponzi's seeding money) , I feel a negative for you is well deserved.

[Zeroxal]

1) Explain the role of escrow here
2) How do you guarantee that the "investors" will be refunded(with profit as you claim)? Do you have enough amount under the control of a neutral party?
3) Is question two in anyway related to escrow.
4) There is no way in heck mining can get you that amount of profit in that time period.
5) "Altcoin trading" is a commonly used term for noobs to describe their money is going in a ponzi

@Everyone, you do remember scrypt, that joke of a "investment" Primedime, cloudminr.io and countless other ponzis that did return your "investment" with profit before their seeding money was emptied and they were fully saturated right?

@OP, considering you do not have any information as to how the profit is derived, where the mining power comes from(could also come from a legit source which is being funded by the ponzi's seeding money) , I feel a negative for you is well deserved.

Like said, I have no idea how lottomax manages to make that profit. Maybe he is running a real ponzi scheme. That's why I won't take any further investments until I have paid back the current investors and I will do further investigation too.

People can invest by depositing his money into an escrow. The escrow will then release the funds until I send him his profit.

I already  said that mining doesn't give that profit. Trading plays the biggest role here.

I don't know where the mining comes from, but I suspect it to come from a botnet, as lottomax has once offered his botnet-setup services.

I don't have the funds in an escrow, I have it in my wallet. Currently, there is about 0.2 btc invested in the investment. And I don't think scamming for such an amount would be worth to lose my account and my reputation here.

To be honest, I'm the highest risk taker here. If lottomax turns out to be a scammer I would lose my investments in him (1btc+) plus the guaranteed loss recovery (0.2 btc)
I know the suspicions, and I already am considering to close this service.

[Indianacoin]

Well, as I am personally taking a big risk covering your losses, I think 20% for my customers is a fair profit. You can choose to invest to lotto directly, but I won't have any responsibility for your losses.

Okay no problem. At least 20% profit is enough for me.
So only two days left I guess for my return right?

1) Explain the role of escrow here
2) How do you guarantee that the "investors" will be refunded(with profit as you claim)? Do you have enough amount under the control of a neutral party?
3) Is question two in anyway related to escrow.
4) There is no way in heck mining can get you that amount of profit in that time period.
5) "Altcoin trading" is a commonly used term for noobs to describe their money is going in a ponzi

@Everyone, you do remember scrypt, that joke of a "investment" Primedime, cloudminr.io and countless other ponzis that did return your "investment" with profit before their seeding money was emptied and they were fully saturated right?

@OP, considering you do not have any information as to how the profit is derived, where the mining power comes from(could also come from a legit source which is being funded by the ponzi's seeding money) , I feel a negative for you is well deserved.

Obviously this is a ponzi according to me and all that 'altcoin trading', 'mining' and all are nothing but bullshit.

But I considered investing here for the first two times because I was carefully tracking all the addresses involved in it and if you look closely you will notice that this address (https://blockchain.info/address/1FX4fnxikvhhK3cSxiuX9MkRPqpLJAr6Hz) is probably the address of Lottomax and since he already has 18.8667998 BTC I felt this is the right time to make some profit if possible.

Eventually it will become zero (because - https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1FX4fnxikvhhK3cSxiuX9MkRPqpLJAr6Hz) and at that time Lottomax will have nothing to do but to hide. At that time the whole ponzi will be considered as 'saturated'.

I can give one advice to op is that he should stop his own partnership service right away when he notices that there is significant lapse in Lottomax's wallet. That way you will not experience any loses.

[mexxer-2]

Like said, I have no idea how lottomax manages to make that profit.

And you still promote it... I see little difference between you and the (frowned upon and negged) ponzi sig promoters.

That's why I won't take any further investments until I have paid back the current investors and I will do further investigation too.

You will continue promoting this crap scheme if more seeding money arrives and it appears that the ponzi is not saturated enough? Perhaps I was not wrong in thinking a neg is well deserved.

People can invest by depositing his money into an escrow. The escrow will then release the funds until I send him his profit.

Considering the mayhem of refunds not being done yet, it was a bad idea to start with , with or without escrow. Explain "escrow will then release the funds until I send him his profit" , so escrow will release payment to you/ponzi and then the participants will get their "investment"?

I already  said that mining doesn't give that profit. Trading plays the biggest role here.

That is pretty much what every failed ponzi has claimed

I don't know where the mining comes from, but I suspect it to come from a botnet, as lottomax has once offered his botnet-setup services.

Bot-nets as in hacking into other people's computers and using it for unknown(to the user) reasons? Another reason a neg is deserved

I don't have the funds in an escrow, I have it in my wallet. Currently, there is about 0.2 btc invested in the investment. And I don't think scamming for such an amount would be worth to lose my account and my reputation here.

Nope your reputation is worth about 0.14 along with your account in my book, I don't even consider mine to be worth more than 0.3

To be honest, I'm the highest risk taker here. If lottomax turns out to be a scammer I would lose my investments in him (1btc+) plus the guaranteed loss recovery (0.2 btc)
I know the suspicions, and I already am considering to close this service.

Nonetheless, you did promote the ponzi in the first place.
I will be making sure you will be neg-tagged in case:
1) You continue promoting this even if it does pay later
2) The refunds are not provided.

[Zeroxal]

-

He has over 10 addresses, each holding approximately 15 bitcoins. I'll give some examples:
https://blockchain.info/address/135NWFvm2rDePUK74bCUfbogu1zTSJEU2z (his first address used, only has 2 btc)
https://blockchain.info/address/1JKBakJCqgciX9b9XbGjaeC1A14BzjvArV (another alternative address)
https://blockchain.info/address/1FX4fnxikvhhK3cSxiuX9MkRPqpLJAr6Hz (address he has been using recently)

I will probably stop this service after I have paid back the current ones.

Like said, I have no idea how lottomax manages to make that profit.

And you still promote it... I see little difference between you and the (frowned upon and negged) ponzi sig promoters.

That's why I won't take any further investments until I have paid back the current investors and I will do further investigation too.

You will continue promoting this crap scheme if more seeding money arrives and it appears that the ponzi is not saturated enough? Perhaps I was not wrong in thinking a neg is well deserved.

People can invest by depositing his money into an escrow. The escrow will then release the funds until I send him his profit.

Considering the mayhem of refunds not being done yet, it was a bad idea to start with , with or without escrow. Explain "escrow will then release the funds until I send him his profit" , so escrow will release payment to you/ponzi and then the participants will get their "investment"?

I already  said that mining doesn't give that profit. Trading plays the biggest role here.

That is pretty much what every failed ponzi has claimed

I don't know where the mining comes from, but I suspect it to come from a botnet, as lottomax has once offered his botnet-setup services.

Bot-nets as in hacking into other people's computers and using it for unknown(to the user) reasons? Another reason a neg is deserved

I don't have the funds in an escrow, I have it in my wallet. Currently, there is about 0.2 btc invested in the investment. And I don't think scamming for such an amount would be worth to lose my account and my reputation here.

Nope your reputation is worth about 0.14 along with your account in my book, I don't even consider mine to be worth more than 0.3

To be honest, I'm the highest risk taker here. If lottomax turns out to be a scammer I would lose my investments in him (1btc+) plus the guaranteed loss recovery (0.2 btc)
I know the suspicions, and I already am considering to close this service.

Nonetheless, you did promote the ponzi in the first place.
I will be making sure you will be neg-tagged in case:
1) You continue promoting this even if it does pay later
2) The refunds are not provided.

1. I dont have the funds, lottomax has the investments. If he runs away, I dont have any investment in my wallet.
2. I can send 0.2 bitcoin to one of the escrows if the investors want to. Right away.
3. I know lottomax owns a botnet and can make lots of money with its mining power. He also has very good experience in trading altcoins. You can look it up at HF.
lotto has tried to sell his knowledge at first on HF, but then decided to open an investment service, because his lack of funds at the beginning
4. I have closed new investments immediately after suspiciouns turned up, and I didnt promote it further.
5. My account might have a worth of 0.14 btc here at the marketplace, but its my only account. I also have another account on HF, with 110+ reputation and Ub3r membership, which means if I scam here, both accounts would be worthless. This account is currently enrolled in the betcoin.ag sig campaign, with over 150 posts this month, Ill get 0.15 btc on 02/01/2016. You can contact roslin to seize that if I dont pay back the investments, which are due to tommorow.

[Indianacoin]

I will probably stop this service after I have paid back the current ones.

Good decision!
At least I want my hard earned money back.
With or without profit doesn't matter.

Sorry to say but I will also not invest here again after this time.

He has over 10 addresses, each holding approximately 15 bitcoins. I'll give some examples:
https://blockchain.info/address/135NWFvm2rDePUK74bCUfbogu1zTSJEU2z (his first address used, only has 2 btc)
https://blockchain.info/address/1JKBakJCqgciX9b9XbGjaeC1A14BzjvArV (another alternative address)
https://blockchain.info/address/1FX4fnxikvhhK3cSxiuX9MkRPqpLJAr6Hz (address he has been using recently)

So he is losing actually.
Balances in all three wallets are going down.

[james.lent]

I will probably stop this service after I have paid back the current ones.

Probably is not the right word here mate. Definitely need to stop it.

[Zeroxal]

To announce officially:

I will close this service after the last investments has been paid back. Thanks for the business.

@mexxer I have updated my above post in response to your post.
BTW, youre basically just "blackmailing" me with your whole neg-tag thing. In your theory, you also should neg-tag every single investor here, as every one of them knows that lottomax owns a botnet and still invested. I will provide a list for you if you request
Did I scam? No - So please leave me a neg-tag with the desciption: User giving away free money with his investment scheme. Thanks

[mexxer-2]

2. I can send 0.2 bitcoin to one of the escrows if the investors want to. Right away.

Fair enough, if the refunds are delivered I'll let this issue slide by.

3. I know lottomax owns a botnet and can make lots of money with its mining power.

How many of them does he have? A 100? A 1000? An average computer(which I believe most of the bot-nets consist of) delivers 10-15H, taking the current mining difficulty, I'd be surprised if it makes more than $10 in a week.

BTW, youre basically just "blackmailing" me with your whole neg-tag thing.

The time you try helping the others from getting scammed, you're blackmailing. Well thats bitcointalk for you.

In your theory, you also should neg-tag every single investor here, as every one of them knows that lottomax owns a botnet and still invested. I will provide a list for you if you request

Nobody was promoting it(the scheme), nonetheless I'm pretty sure you haven't mentioned it before .

Did I scam? No - So please leave me a neg-tag with the desciption: User giving away free money with his investment scheme. Thanks

Perhaps, but this would be better don't you think "Aiding a ponzi by promoting it, untrustworthy individual."

[Zeroxal]

2. I can send 0.2 bitcoin to one of the escrows if the investors want to. Right away.

Fair enough, if the refunds are delivered I'll let this issue slide by.

I could send the 0.2 bitcoin directly to you. Send me your address (here) and ill fund it with 0.2 btc and leave you a small tip.

EDIT:
Once again. I didnt suspect it to be a ponzi at first, because of his service provided (trading method, botnet setup etc). After I have seen suspicious actions I instantly closed new investments.
Maybe youll still call me a ponzi promoter. Its up to you.

[SebastianJu]

Zeroxal asked me to provide an escrow address to keep 0.2 bitcoin.

So here it is:

The escrow address is:

Code:

1M2xB8TfDgGWLKAWNCG1VsmQekuurgJ53a

Please ONLY send to an escrow address i sent you directly. Dont send to quotes the seller claims i wrote. Only if i send you the address directly its ensured the address is correct. I will attach a signature whose message contains the escrow address, signed with an old address of mine, i posted may 2013 on bitcointalk. See my Servicethread: [ANN] SebastianJu - Free Legendary Escrow Service - Escrowed over 8150 BTC.

Before payment i would suggest you take a look at http://www.cointape.com/ to check out if the network gets spammed again. Below the graph there is shown what amount of fee is needed to get instant confirmation for a normal transaction, which means a transaction with coins coming from one address, and going to two addresses. That would be the target address and the source or a change address where the remaining coins are sent to. Checking that page could prevent that transactions are stuck for hours or days because they dont get a confirmation.

The payment of the bitcoins can be found and proved the fastest way through blockchain.info or automatically by email through bitcoinmonitor.net.

In case signed messages has to be verified, then its the fastest to visit http://wallet-2sx53n.sakurity.com/#verify. Then you can proove fast if a signature, given by me or the seller, is correct and so you know that the address is controlled by the one giving the signature.

Escrowfee is donation based... see my donation jar in my profile page... (Left side of page... click on my username) or simply scan the QR-Code from my avatar picture.

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
20160130 This is the escrow address for holding coins for Zeroxal and the escrow address is 1M2xB8TfDgGWLKAWNCG1VsmQekuurgJ53a
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1K2UFGCKyNQNx4h2m5ZRCaw9BWHTBcCZAA
GxWLK0MiwrucuILVJAQ7X+HvDrifyHpEmWeseyXv1Zq/MPHYT6SyF9nAHoeP09HRJkEXmVY4KGhl+8JK+Arvvt0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Message signed with an old address of mine, that i posted may 2013 on bitcointalk. See my Servicethread: [ANN] SebastianJu - Free Legendary Escrow Service - Escrowed over 8150 BTC.

[Zeroxal]

Zeroxal asked me to provide an escrow address to keep 0.2 bitcoin.

So here it is:

The escrow address is:

Code:

1M2xB8TfDgGWLKAWNCG1VsmQekuurgJ53a

Please ONLY send to an escrow address i sent you directly. Dont send to quotes the seller claims i wrote. Only if i send you the address directly its ensured the address is correct. I will attach a signature whose message contains the escrow address, signed with an old address of mine, i posted may 2013 on bitcointalk. See my Servicethread: [ANN] SebastianJu - Free Legendary Escrow Service - Escrowed over 8150 BTC.

Before payment i would suggest you take a look at http://www.cointape.com/ to check out if the network gets spammed again. Below the graph there is shown what amount of fee is needed to get instant confirmation for a normal transaction, which means a transaction with coins coming from one address, and going to two addresses. That would be the target address and the source or a change address where the remaining coins are sent to. Checking that page could prevent that transactions are stuck for hours or days because they dont get a confirmation.

The payment of the bitcoins can be found and proved the fastest way through blockchain.info or automatically by email through bitcoinmonitor.net.

In case signed messages has to be verified, then its the fastest to visit http://wallet-2sx53n.sakurity.com/#verify. Then you can proove fast if a signature, given by me or the seller, is correct and so you know that the address is controlled by the one giving the signature.

Escrowfee is donation based... see my donation jar in my profile page... (Left side of page... click on my username) or simply scan the QR-Code from my avatar picture.

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
20160130 This is the escrow address for holding coins for Zeroxal and the escrow address is 1M2xB8TfDgGWLKAWNCG1VsmQekuurgJ53a
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1K2UFGCKyNQNx4h2m5ZRCaw9BWHTBcCZAA
GxWLK0MiwrucuILVJAQ7X+HvDrifyHpEmWeseyXv1Zq/MPHYT6SyF9nAHoeP09HRJkEXmVY4KGhl+8JK+Arvvt0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Message signed with an old address of mine, that i posted may 2013 on bitcointalk. See my Servicethread: [ANN] SebastianJu - Free Legendary Escrow Service - Escrowed over 8150 BTC.

Disregard my disregard PM then
Will fund the address with 0.2 bitcoin as soon as possible.

[mexxer-2]

I could send the 0.2 bitcoin directly to you. Send me your address (here) and ill fund it with 0.2 btc and leave you a small tip.

I do not escrow for any transactions over 0.15, Seb is a good choice.

Maybe youll still call me a ponzi promoter. Its up to you.

Considering you are willing to refund I believe a feedback is not necessary, or if requested by an "investor" a neutral.

[Zeroxal]

Amount has been sent to escrow. 0.2001 ( for the sake of transaction fees)
https://blockchain.info/tx/9e1b9e4bc5770deae7189f11297b275206735beda467e21d83bbd4890e7d6858

Terms are:
If I don't repay the individual investors until 01.02.2016 17PM forum time, Sebastian should repay the individuals using the escrowed amount.
But if they get their payment by then. Sebastian will send the 0.2 btc back to my address:18WvTJ1M3gAr6xYfFtWtsH1RikTXfvhEBN

Please confirm that seb

[Indianacoin]

Since you are putting nearly all your money in escrow how will I receive the return + 20% profit then?
Tell me the process please?

Will seb send me the principal and you send the 20% profit?

Also it is a good choice in my opinion to secure your assets.

Lets wait and see what happens afterall

[Zeroxal]

Since you are putting all your money in escrow how will I receive the return + 20% profit then?
Tell me the process please?

Will seb send me the principal and you send the 20% profit?

Also it is a good choice in my opinion to secure your assets.

Lats wait and see what happens afterall

I guarantee to cover any losses if anything should happen. So you wouldn't receive your profit if lottomax scams till then.
I'll publish a list of all open investments if something should happen. (Which is very unlikely, because lotto still holds a lot of bitcoin)

[Indianacoin]

I guarantee to cover any losses if anything should happen. So you wouldn't receive your profit if lottomax scams till then.
I'll publish a list of all open investments if something should happen. (Which is very unlikely, because lotto still holds a lot of bitcoin)

So you are sending the full payment at the mentioned time until lotto faces any issues right?
Thats what I wanted to know

Also make a list of all current investors in op and mention how much they are getting back with profit and at what time.

Thanks.

[Zeroxal]

I guarantee to cover any losses if anything should happen. So you wouldn't receive your profit if lottomax scams till then.
I'll publish a list of all open investments if something should happen. (Which is very unlikely, because lotto still holds a lot of bitcoin)

So you are sending the full payment at the mentioned time until lotto faces any issues right?
Thats what I wanted to know

Also make a list of all current investors in op and mention how much they are getting back with profit and at what time.

Thanks.

Sorry, but I won't publish it unless lotto really scams.

Seb, please confirm that the funds have arrived

[SebastianJu]

0.2 Bitcoin are in the escrow address. Please investors let me know when this amount is less then the amount needed to repay the investors.

I suggest to handle the payment this way that Zeroxal pays everyone the funds + profit from his profits, if possible and then i release the coins in escrow to him. I think that would be the way with the least transactions and transaction fees.

Anyway, if something goes wrong it would be good to know who invested. Either invest from an address you own, so you can access the private key and/or you can sign a private message with, see my post with my escrow address for a link for that, or you can send zeroxal an amount where you send some satoshies more than needed. Add the last 4 signs of your bitcointalk.org forum profile id. For example your forum id is 543245 and you will invest 0.01 bitcoin then you would send 0.01003245 bitcoin. That would be a pretty good proof that you are the sender.

Keep in mind that most exchanges have the stupid behaviour of taking the transaction fee from the amount you send.

[RoughLyfe]

Guys, calm down.
Lotto has always been fighting against omni on Hackforums. He got banned 2 days ago because Omni didn't belive his whole mining/trading thing.
Since he was banned, he opened his own forum: www.trustforums.com

I know the struggle, I thought I got scammed too when he was banned. But I still got my 0.3btc investment back yesterday. I reinvested 0.3 btc into him. I have always been suspicious about his methods, but he seems to make business over hundreds of bitcoin every day. Many investors invest over 10 bitcoins.

Well, I won't take any investments until I have paid the users that invested to this date. I don't want to make such a drama.

Thanks

Barely woke up right now,but I do believe OP should close this service as its way to suspicious and risky to run.I honestly think Zeroxal is legit,but lottomax on the other hand may not be.

[adicted]

Do you still accept new deposits? I'm kinda interested on this one and will probably invest the maximum amount to invest if will be allowed   Waiting for your reply.

[DarkStar_]

Do you still accept new deposits? I'm kinda interested on this one and will probably invest the maximum amount to invest if will be allowed   Waiting for your reply.

It seems that he is closing down the service because lottomax was banned, and he might scam.

[kingaltcoins]

This sums it up all.
Why do you even promote a ponzi and believe in someone when the admin of that forum has given a negative trust?

Beware! It will go down anytime soon.

[DarkStar_]

Seems like things will turn out pretty well after all. (people will get their investment)

and

[kingaltcoins]

Well I checked the main thread and there op said after starting a contract he will send a link from nicehash to the investors for showing that he is really mining. And everyone posted their screenshots of nicehash graphs too. Did this op send any links to monitor the real activity of mining to any investors?
I think no.

[Zeroxal]

This sums it up all.
Why do you even promote a ponzi and believe in someone when the admin of that forum has given a negative trust?

Beware! It will go down anytime soon.

Omni didn't ban lotto only because of his investment scheme. He has had problems with omni before that.

Like said, he is still paying out after he ha seen banned on HF and he currently runs his own forum: www.trustforums.com

I'll stop this service anyways.

Well I checked the main thread and there op said after starting a contract he will send a link from nicehash to the investors for showing that he is really mining. And everyone posted their screenshots of nicehash graphs too. Did this op send any links to monitor the real activity of mining to any investors?
I think no.

No, customers didn't request to mine in their own pool. So there is no graph etc

[kingaltcoins]

Omni didn't ban lotto only because of his investment scheme. He has had problems with omni before that.

Proof of his earlier problems with omni?

No, customers didn't request to mine in their own pool. So there is no graph etc

Then why are these users posting their screenshots of nicehash and shouting in flocks?

• http://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5097730&pid=49000443#pid49000443
• http://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5097730&pid=49006344#pid49006344
• http://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5097730&pid=49013990#pid49013990

There are more of them posting like this.

I got your username btw > http://hackforums.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=2715954

No, customers didn't request to mine in their own pool. So there is no graph etc

See how you are lying just now buddy!



If you cannot explain this to me I will leave a neg rep on both your accounts and pm Omni showing this thread that you are his partner.


Also Lottomax avoided KaptaiN's obvious questions just like that! > http://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5097730&pid=49268543#pid49268543

Please watch out before investing your money in this.

I have a few questions about this:

1. Is there any proof whatsoever that you actually own these miners?
2. If these miners can supposedly make such large profits with these investments, how do you benefit at all from renting them out and giving the "profits" to the investors? Why not just run them yourself, with your investments, and keep 100% of the profits? If everybody's money is doubling then surely you can just keep doubling your own money?

I have a feeling that this is all a big variation of a ponzi scheme: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme
Are you sure you're not taking everyone's investments and using them for the payouts?

I look forward to see how you'll explain this, maybe there's just something I'm not seeing - otherwise this is exactly like those BTC faucet websites where you invest small amounts & get a payout, then, once everyone has invested large sums, the website disappears and everyone's BTC is stolen. It doesn't help that you've been here for literally less than a month.

Can you answer this on his behalf since you are his business partner?

[155UE]

No, customers didn't request to mine in their own pool. So there is no graph etc

See how you are lying just now buddy!



If you cannot explain this to me I will leave a neg rep on both your accounts and pm Omni showing this thread that you are his partner.

He meant none of the people that invested with Zeroxal here, not on hackforums.

[Zeroxal]

No, customers didn't request to mine in their own pool. So there is no graph etc

See how you are lying just now buddy!



If you cannot explain this to me I will leave a neg rep on both your accounts and pm Omni showing this thread that you are his partner.

I have no idea what you're trying to say here. None of my customers asked me to mine at their pool. So I didn't provide them with that. I am not lottomax, I am Zeroxal. His customers aren't my customers. Leave me a rep then if you want, for your obvious reasons it seems...

Also Lottomax avoided KaptaiN's obvious questions just like that! > http://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5097730&pid=49268543#pid49268543

Please watch out before investing your money in this.

I have a few questions about this:

1. Is there any proof whatsoever that you actually own these miners?
2. If these miners can supposedly make such large profits with these investments, how do you benefit at all from renting them out and giving the "profits" to the investors? Why not just run them yourself, with your investments, and keep 100% of the profits? If everybody's money is doubling then surely you can just keep doubling your own money?

I have a feeling that this is all a big variation of a ponzi scheme: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme
Are you sure you're not taking everyone's investments and using them for the payouts?

I look forward to see how you'll explain this, maybe there's just something I'm not seeing - otherwise this is exactly like those BTC faucet websites where you invest small amounts & get a payout, then, once everyone has invested large sums, the website disappears and everyone's BTC is stolen. It doesn't help that you've been here for literally less than a month.

Can you answer this on his behalf since you are his business partner?

Once again. I am his sales partner for bitcointalk, I am not his partner for sales on HF. I'm basically just a middleman forwarding the investments. And you are here asking for me to give you proof of how someone else manages to make free money.
Just to repeat it again for you: it's almost obvious now that this is a ponzi. Read through the whole thread before posting nonsense like that. That's called spam.

Tip: Stop spamming for your sig campaign. I'll report you to your sig campaign manager Already did
Also, merge your post into one post instead of quoting and reposting it 5 times.

[Robertt]

Kingaltcoins, stop bitching about everything.
Go back to your scam report over 10 virtual 'bucks'.
Omniscient is a retard who has problems with anyone making money or basically anyone on his forum. If you're going to be a little snitch about everything, don't make it about something like this. No one likes people like you.

[Zeroxal]

Kingaltcoins, stop bitching about everything.
Go back to your scam report over 10 virtual 'bucks'.
Omniscient is a retard who has problems with anyone making money or basically anyone on his forum. If you're going to be a little snitch about everything, don't make it about something like this. No one likes people like you.

He isn't bitching around. He's only trying to get his post count up by double/triple posting on the same thread complaining about everything.
I've already reported him to his campaign manager.

[rezilient]

I didnt read the part that he will pm omni about the thread. I didn't knew that hackforum is directly related to bitcointalk forum..

[RoughLyfe]

Kingaltcoins, stop bitching about everything.
Go back to your scam report over 10 virtual 'bucks'.
Omniscient is a retard who has problems with anyone making money or basically anyone on his forum. If you're going to be a little snitch about everything, don't make it about something like this. No one likes people like you.

He isn't bitching around. He's only trying to get his post count up by double/triple posting on the same thread complaining about everything.
I've already reported him to his campaign manager.

Its been 2 days,can you send me my money?
Or confirm whether or not you need more time

[Zeroxal]

I'm currently trying to get the investments from lotto. His Skype had been banned and I am contacting him via XMPP and his forum. He still needs some time.
Please give me a few hours of time

[RoughLyfe]

I'm currently trying to get the investments from lotto. His Skype had been banned and I am contacting him via XMPP and his forum. He still needs some time.
Please give me a few hours of time

Understandable.I messaged you via Skype and received no answer so I wasn't sure what happened.Keep me updated

[Zeroxal]

I'm currently trying to get the investments from lotto. His Skype had been banned and I am contacting him via XMPP and his forum. He still needs some time.
Please give me a few hours of time

Understandable.I messaged you via Skype and received no answer so I wasn't sure what happened.Keep me updated

Sorry, have been busy all day trying to contact lotto. Finally got him on XMPP now He seems to be very busy, as he cannot manage sales via Skype anymore and many investors are trying to get their investments.
The good thing is that he is still paying out.

His last response was: "I need a few hours to sort things out"

So there will probably still be a 2-3 hour wait.

Edit:
Just got a confirmation that he need 2-3 hours MINIMUM. Let's see what happens... :/

[Zeroxal]

Good news guys! I just received my payment from lotto. Will distribute the payment to each of you once the transaction gets confirmed and I'll post the TXID here

Thanks for your business!

The payments for RoighLyfe and amrulshare have been sent: https://blockchain.info/tx/9605f60a9d5bb1c046afbaf889f7416a34375f43a898b8192d7a15a9c2621efb

@indianacoin,rezilient,chrispop
Please send me your addresses, so I can send you your profit + investment.

Rezilient payment: https://blockchain.info/tx/c4de2d4a1a194948f58c9780f7594a85a37ee0ecd5e7a83a4ea52af2546fb65d
Indianacoin's payment: https://blockchain.info/tx/09f7047f2564bee9dcb0d67c2544d183a86aa1075c28151a510a34a31b232d64
I'm going to bed now, so if I am offline in 15-20 mins and don't respond to messages, that's why .

[RoughLyfe]

Good news guys! I just received my payment from lotto. Will distribute the payment to each of you once the transaction gets confirmed and I'll post the TXID here

Thanks for your business!

The payments for RoighLyfe and amrulshare have been sent: https://blockchain.info/tx/9605f60a9d5bb1c046afbaf889f7416a34375f43a898b8192d7a15a9c2621efb

@indianacoin,rezilient,chrispop
Please send me your addresses, so I can send you your profit + investment.

I'm going to bed now, so if I am offline in 15-20 mins and don't respond to messages, that's why .

I can confirm I have received payment.Thanks for the business!

[rezilient]

Good news guys! I just received my payment from lotto. Will distribute the payment to each of you once the transaction gets confirmed and I'll post the TXID here

Thanks for your business!

The payments for RoighLyfe and amrulshare have been sent: https://blockchain.info/tx/9605f60a9d5bb1c046afbaf889f7416a34375f43a898b8192d7a15a9c2621efb

@indianacoin,rezilient,chrispop
Please send me your addresses, so I can send you your profit + investment.

I'm going to bed now, so if I am offline in 15-20 mins and don't respond to messages, that's why .

I can confirm I have received payment.Thanks for the business!

Thank you! received it as well.

[amrulshare]

Thank you , receive for payment after 2 Day 

[Indianacoin]

Yeah! I received my return of investment before time! I was notified of getting it in 3 days but I already received in 2 days!
Thanks buddy
At least I will say the investments under zeroxal's control was a success.

[Zeroxal]

Chrispop, I have messaged you multiple times. Please send me your address, so I can send you your 0.01 btc + profit back
Thanks

[ibny]

How to invest...

[Zeroxal]

Chrispop's payment has been sent: https://blockchain.info/tx/9d758190795a169fec8ede11abcf79f2edc33b10e3c9481b611859348d88fc40

@SebastianJu please release the escrow funds to: 18WvTJ1M3gAr6xYfFtWtsH1RikTXfvhEBN

Thanks for all your business, will lock this thread in 24 hours.

[SebastianJu]

Before i send back i would want to know if no complaints are coming up since i don't know the investors and can't tell if they really received their mining reward.

Besides that, what did lottomax do? Did he send back ALL investments + profit every week or had he still funds left with him? I imagine it would be practically impossible, or with high risk for lottomax, when he runs a ponzi where he pays all investments + profit back since he would risk his own coins. So did he pay back everything all the time? Only curious.

Sorry for having to let you wait but i think i'm need to make sure that no complaints happen afterwards.

[Zeroxal]

Before i send back i would want to know if no complaints are coming up since i don't know the investors and can't tell if they really received their mining reward.

Besides that, what did lottomax do? Did he send back ALL investments + profit every week or had he still funds left with him? I imagine it would be practically impossible, or with high risk for lottomax, when he runs a ponzi where he pays all investments + profit back since he would risk his own coins. So did he pay back everything all the time? Only curious.

Lotto still runs his service. I'm partnered with him as a "middleman" that forwards the investments to him. I have no share and am not part of his method.
He still pays everyone on his forum and it seems that people are investing even bigger amounts into him...
It might be a legit investment in my opinion, he was holding more than 500btc once and didn't scam, he instead paid every investment back with profit. Unless he wants to scam even more bitcoins at once, he is a real business man.

Sure, if there aren't any complaints within 48 hours, please send me the funds .

[condoras]

To invest with you, i have to PM you?

[ChrisPop]

Chrispop's payment has been sent: https://blockchain.info/tx/9d758190795a169fec8ede11abcf79f2edc33b10e3c9481b611859348d88fc40

@SebastianJu please release the escrow funds to: 18WvTJ1M3gAr6xYfFtWtsH1RikTXfvhEBN

Thanks for all your business, will lock this thread in 24 hours.

Thanks for the payment,Zeroxal! Very good service and promptitude. 

[Zeroxal]

Before i send back i would want to know if no complaints are coming up since i don't know the investors and can't tell if they really received their mining reward.

Besides that, what did lottomax do? Did he send back ALL investments + profit every week or had he still funds left with him? I imagine it would be practically impossible, or with high risk for lottomax, when he runs a ponzi where he pays all investments + profit back since he would risk his own coins. So did he pay back everything all the time? Only curious.

Lotto still runs his service. I'm partnered with him as a "middleman" that forwards the investments to him. I have no share and am not part of his method.
He still pays everyone on his forum and it seems that people are investing even bigger amounts into him...
It might be a legit investment in my opinion, he was holding more than 500btc once and didn't scam, he instead paid every investment back with profit. Unless he wants to scam even more bitcoins at once, he is a real business man.

Sure, if there aren't any complaints within 48 hours, please send me the funds .

48 hours now (in 4 hours)
Please send me the funds back

[SebastianJu]

Coins were sent to ZengryT since i did not receive or read any complaint against it. So i have to assume that all investors got their payment.

Let me know when you need an escrow again...

[Zeroxal]

Coins were sent to ZengryT since i did not receive or read any complaint against it. So i have to assume that all investors got their payment.

Let me know when you need an escrow again...

Thanks, received the payment.
I am not ZengryT, but Zeroxal

Will definitely hire you again as an escrow

[SebastianJu]

Coins were sent to ZengryT since i did not receive or read any complaint against it. So i have to assume that all investors got their payment.

Let me know when you need an escrow again...

Thanks, received the payment.
I am not ZengryT, but Zeroxal

Will definitely hire you again as an escrow

*lol* Sorry, wrote to him a minute before so i mixed up the names. Guess i have too many personal message conversations daily.

Thanks for your trust!

[c2m]

@Zeroxal
Hi, are you still accepting investment ?
thank you for your reply.