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January 29, 2016, 04:32:36 PM
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Hi Folks,


I wrote a blog about my complete research "Finding Satoshi"


Chapter 1 - The Usual Suspects

https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/01/27/the-usual-suspects/


Chapter 2 - Digital Evidence

https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/01/27/digital-evidence/


Chapter 3 - Japanese Connection

https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/01/27/japanese-connection/


Chapter 4  - Devil is in the details

https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/01/27/devil-is-in-the-details/



Let me know know your comments.

Thanks,
Bounty Hunter.

P.S - Pawel, the polish guy is not Satoshi. I sent email and he replied.

In his own words

"Wow, I did not see that coming Wink

Sorry to disappoint you, but it's certainly not me who you're after.

Good luck in your further research,

Pawel"


You can appreciate my efforts with some bitcoins ;-)   BTC1DSoqWS1HS7dDqoPbnGLQ7zwwopB7hrRiU
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January 29, 2016, 04:35:45 PM
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Holy shit you're right.

I'm sad because it's not Gavin Grin
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Interesting read. Although I think this discussion is completely pointless, my curiosity doesn't allow me to ignore it. Hope it's not another Hoax.
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January 29, 2016, 04:41:36 PM
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OMG! Here we go again! When are we leaving the crew (because it's certainly not a single individual) who created the paper alone? Bitcoin is the product of community developement, not just from a single individual!
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January 29, 2016, 04:46:31 PM
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Nice research and good articless but this may be pointless to debate

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January 29, 2016, 04:48:06 PM
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Satoshi is the first name for many people from Japan. Satoshi is also the name of a animation character according to Wikipedia.

Ash Ketchum, known as Satoshi (サトシ?) in Japan, is a fictional character in the Pokémon franchise owned by Nintendo. He is the main protagonist of the Pokémon anime and manga series, as well as on various merchandise related to the franchise.
I doubt many people had this information in the western world, even more since any Pokemon fan would know that their creator's name was Satoshi Tajiri and that this information is much easier to find. And yes, I had the same idea that our Satoshi might have been a Pokemon fan when he was young  Cheesy (which would mean that he should be in his late twenties now).
Now I haven't read all the reasoning, since it's a lot of text, thus I don't know how right/wrong you are, but it seems like you invested a lot of time in this research. I feel a bit sad for Satoshi, though, who would like to remain anonymous but is tracked down by a large part of the community :-/
I guess this is the price of success.

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January 29, 2016, 04:49:06 PM
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OMG! Here we go again! When are we leaving the crew (because it's certainly not a single individual) who created the paper alone? Bitcoin is the product of community developement, not just from a single individual!


I am sure that it is a single person. I always said that to me, and if it was proved that it was a group of person, I'd have an heart attack Grin !
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January 29, 2016, 04:51:58 PM
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Hi Folks,

I am happy to share with you that I finally found our Satoshi Nakamoto based on July 2007 paper submitted to International Association for Cryptography Research (IACR) . This paper has many similarities to Bitcoin white paper 2008.

I wrote a blog about my complete research "finding Satoshi" in 7 chapters.

You can read here

https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/01/28/bitcoin-founder-unmasked/


Start reading from Chapter 1 - The Usual Suspects to understand the complete story.

https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/01/27/the-usual-suspects/



Let me know know your comments.

Thanks,
Bounty Hunter.

Welcome to the forum Bounty Hunter.
Really interesting first post, thanks for helping find the real Satoshi.  Smiley
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January 29, 2016, 04:52:54 PM
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I totally agree, he has every right to be anonymous.

But the man deserves to get credit for the greatest innovation of the century.
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January 29, 2016, 04:56:42 PM
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It was worth reading, I thought this could have been just more clickbait nonsense, but was at least interesting. I like how you make the connections from the 2 japanese authors. But honestly, this is not final proof of anything. You could haven made the thread "I THINK I have found Satoshi Nakamoto" to make it little bit less click baitish.
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January 29, 2016, 05:02:11 PM
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Good effort for what I see. Sometimes one just have to put some bait in the thread for other people to consider it. Although many say it does not matter who satoshi is (and I agree) it always brings about some interest Smiley

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I totally agree, he has every right to be anonymous.

But the man deserves to get credit for the greatest innovation of the century.

:sniffle:

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January 29, 2016, 05:10:41 PM
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So we can conclude from this that Adam Back was not Satoshi, if he communicated with him on his ideas. It is a very interesting angle on this whole

mystery and I would like to know a bit more. We can see that you put a lot of effort into your research and it shows in your final product. So what

happened to this student  ---> Pawel Pszona?  Roll Eyes ....While we playing with this idea, we might just entertain the possibility and have some fun.

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January 29, 2016, 05:19:38 PM
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https://eprint.iacr.org/2007/216.pdf

doesnt sound like bitcoin to me.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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January 29, 2016, 05:30:57 PM
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Holy crap!  I can't believe Ralph Waldo Emerson is Satoshi Nakamoto!!  It makes perfect sense though.  Look - a line of his poem "The over-soul" which can be roughly translated as "The block-chain": "We live in succession, in division, in parts, in particles."

 Also look at his poem "Nature":

 "A subtle chain of countless rings
 The next unto the farthest brings;
 The eye reads omens where it goes,
 And speaks all languages the rose;
 And, striving to be man, the worm
 Mounts through all the spires of form.
"


 and this from his "Introductory lecture on the Times":

"There is a perfect chain, — see it, or see it not, — of reforms emerging from the surrounding darkness, each cherishing some part of the general idea, and all must be seen, in order to do justice to any one. Seen in this their natural connection, they are sublime. The conscience of the Age demonstrates itself in this effort to raise the life of man by putting it in harmony with his idea of the Beautiful and the Just."  <--- that IS bitcoin! He nailed it!


 Excellent research!  I think you might be onto something there.


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January 29, 2016, 05:33:13 PM
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https://eprint.iacr.org/2007/216.pdf

doesnt sound like bitcoin to me.

Yep:

Setup. This stage is executed by a bank only once for each coin value v = 2l−1 dollars.
1. The bank generates a chain of prime numbers p1, p2, . . . , pl+1 such that there exist
values νi < 2
k and pi+1 = νipi + 1 (i = 1, . . . , l), where k is a parameter.
Furthermore, the bank generates groups Gp1
, . . . , Gpl
such that Gpi
is a subgroup of
order pi of Z

pi+1
and Gpi =< gpi > (Gpi
is a cyclic group generated by gpi
).
Then the bank chooses elements h(1,0), h(1,1) ∈ Gp1
, h(2,0), h(2,1) ∈ Gp2
, . . ., h(l,0),
h(l,1) ∈ Gpl
such that discrete logarithms between them and their respective group’s
generators are unknown.
2. The bank creates an empty database for storing the history of deposited payments.
Each payment’s entry contains x-values and T -values for all leaves that are descendants
of a spent node and an additional value R (a pseudorandom number used in
the payment protocol – it will be discussed later).
The database should also enable efficient searching for x-values (e.g., it could be sorted
by x-values).
3. The bank sets up parameters for CL signatures (i.e., n = pq and a cyclic group G of
order n).
4. The bank chooses a group G of prime order p (p > pl+1), and picks its generators
g, gˆ ∈ G.
Then the bank makes all generated values public.

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https://eprint.iacr.org/2007/216.pdf

doesnt sound like bitcoin to me.

its not. even the writing style let alone the content being different. what the OP doesnt understand is that making currency is a game thats been played even as far back as the cavemen trading fruits for sexual favours with the cave women.

there are literally millions of people working on currency creation and thousands working on similar concepts.
whats next because satoshi said he was working on it since 2007.. and then the new theory of the 2007 paper the OP links to means they were working on it before 2007 (hint: which debunks the satoshi 18month idea by the way)

will the OP consider satoshi miscalculted his 18months.. to then work further back and maybe come across W, dai 1998.. or will the OP go back to 2008 and then try a different angle.

i can name atleast 50 people that had similar concepts between 2005-2008. and maybe a dozen before that.

happy hunting


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January 29, 2016, 05:34:41 PM
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I'm not Japanese.

Edit: Oops I've posted from wrong account.


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January 29, 2016, 05:40:13 PM
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You are missing an important point here.

Satoshi mainly solved two important things

1. No Trusted Third Party

2. Solve Double Spending without a centralized third party.

The papers discusses both these things.

I quote Gavin from the fortune article.

"There was also a lot of talk back then about digital cash and whether there was a way to pay for things that doesn’t require you to trust a government or central authority. They never quite figured that part out. So all the ideas were there, but until Satoshi Nakamoto had this brilliant idea of how to solve the trust problem, it never really took off."

http://fortune.com/2015/01/22/qa-gavin-andresen-bitcoin-foundation/
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Satoshi is the first name for many people from Japan. Satoshi is also the name of a animation character according to Wikipedia.

Ash Ketchum, known as Satoshi (サトシ?) in Japan, is a fictional character in the Pokémon franchise owned by Nintendo. He is the main protagonist of the Pokémon anime and manga series, as well as on various merchandise related to the franchise.
I doubt many people had this information in the western world, even more since any Pokemon fan would know that their creator's name was Satoshi Tajiri and that this information is much easier to find. And yes, I had the same idea that our Satoshi might have been a Pokemon fan when he was young  Cheesy (which would mean that he should be in his late twenties now).
Now I haven't read all the reasoning, since it's a lot of text, thus I don't know how right/wrong you are, but it seems like you invested a lot of time in this research. I feel a bit sad for Satoshi, though, who would like to remain anonymous but is tracked down by a large part of the community :-/
I guess this is the price of success.

You are making assumptions where they are not ready to be made. A pokemon fan does not have to be a kid, especially in a country like Japan. Adults watch anime all the time there, including pokemon.

Also, satoshi never specifically asked not to be traced. He just disappeared and never replied any more. This can be due to many reasons, one being that he doens't want to be found, but he could also have died for instance (even though that is highly unlikely).
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