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[MrPresident]

How can I become one of the 101 Delegates? I have to run a node?

yes, and then you need votes.

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[Bobo81]

who else thinks lisk is going to skyrocket soon?

i gotta a feeling...

Lisk fly when the time comes. Just keep your coins and buy new ones, while the price is low!!!

Totally agreed!

[chases]

PLEASE IGNORE ALL PREVIOUS VOTE LISTS DISPLAYED ON LAST TWO PAGES & CONSIDER THIS REVISION

IF YOU QUOTED MY PREVIOUS LIST, PLEASE GO BACK AND EDIT THE QUOTE OUT - THANKS!

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LISK VOTING - WHO?

BACKGROUND

Feel free to add my delegate... to that list.   Not sure why <my delegate> was excluded.... My productivity on TestNet is higher than some of these above.

Several people feel left out of my list I posted earlier today so I am going back and trying to do a better / more accurate job.  I am going to combine the first  "who to vote for" post and the second "how to vote" post together here with an updated list.   This new list below is divided into four columns.  

The first column below lists 33 people who have maintained around 95% productivity or better on testnet.   Only God knows how they did this because testnet sucks.  But if they can score that high on the unstable testnet, they sure as hell deserve to be running a node on mainnet.  You should definitely vote for these guys, they know what they are doing.  Note:  I am not in this group.  LOL.

The second column below lists 33 people who have maintained roughly 80%-95% productivity on testnet.  For the unstable testnet, this is damn good and these people deserve your votes, too, IMHO.

The third column below lists 20 people who have a productivity of 50%-80% productivity on testnet.  They're trying and some of them are trying hard.  They will need to do a lot better on mainnet.

The fourth column below lists 19 people who have a productivity under 50% on testnet.  Some have actually left testnet;  some of these never made it into the top 101 and have never had a chance to demonstrate their abilities;  some have gone on to do other important Lisk work (fixcrypt, theredhawk)  Note that 20 in the previous column plus 19 in this column totals 39 delegates, and in your last two Lisk vote transactions (discussed below) you get to choose only 33+2 = 35 delegates.  Welcome to the reality of Delegated Proof of Stake (DPoS) :  

Some people are not going to be chosen as forging Top Delegates.  

There are currently over 600 Standby Delegates registered on mainnet - the 105 that have at least shown up to run testnet, and around 500 more that have not.  Which group do you want running mainnet?

MAINNET VS. TESTNET

Right now Oliver is operating 101 identical genesis servers to run the Lisk mainnet

https://explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor

This is a necessary evil while improved Lisk code is being written (version 0.4.0)  The 0.4.0 version hopefully will be stable enough after testing that Oliver will turn off the Genesis machines, forging rewards will start, and the Lisk mainnet will be start to be run by 101 community-elected DPoS (Delegated Proof of Stake) Top Delegates.

For now, hopeful delegates are practicing their node operating skills over on the Lisk testnet

https://testnet-explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor

This is an expensive way to practice.  It costs all these folks (including me) money out of their own pocket to run these testnet servers, which are generating "test Lisk forging rewards" with no real value.  

This is also a very frustrating way to practice.  The current Lisk code is very challenging to operate.  While the network endures, individual nodes must be laboriously resynchronized often with procedures that can be very time-consuming.

Many people have given up due to expense and frustration and are no longer maintaining their testnet nodes.  You can see them in the testnet explorer link above as having red dots and / or low productivity percentages beside their names.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE SHOWN THE DEDICATION (GENERALLY SPEAKING, HIGH PRODUCTIVITY PERCENTAGES BESIDE THEIR NAMES) TO CONTINUE RUNNING LISK TESTNET NODES WEEK AFTER WEEK.  

THESE PEOPLE ARE WORTHY OF YOUR VOTE TODAY.  

THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS A CHOICE FOR DPoS ACTIVE DELEGATES TO RUN THE LISK MAINNET IN THE MONTHS AND YEARS TO COME.

TESTNET EXPERIENCE VOTING LIST

** 95%+ ** 1st VOTE BATCH atreides bacobob bangomatic cad789 carolina cc001 corsaro devasive digitron diplo eclipsun freemind gordo gr33ndrag0n hmachado lamar litcoincollector nerigal odsejen pawart popcornbag ppan redux rmelo samuray slasheks sonobit splatters tharude vega vipertkd vrlc92 xujian

** 80% - 95% ** 2nd VOTE BATCH anamix area axente crodam cryptostorms dafricash distro djselery goldeneye grajson grumlin hoop hua isabella jasmine joel liskit malreynolds mobgod mrv ntelo ottobene phoenix1969 qbanow rado redsn0w sgdias staticinstance techbytes thrice.pi_prometheus vi1son will bigfisher

** 50% - 80% ** 3RD VOTE BATCH amanai bioly bitcoinuserx bitseed byronp cannabanana cointrader83 cryptobase densmirnov digitalcurrencyltd freddag freeze gregorst idealisk liskgate metal494 mrfrismint stoner19 traderbill wannabe_rotebaron

** under 50% ** 4TH VOTE BATCH arisalexis chey cstewart daoist eastwind_ja fixcrypt forrest freiheitswelle grexx lisknode liskpools ondin proto punkrock rooney savetheworld shinotestnet theredhawk vo1d

DELEGATED PROOF OF STAKE (DPoS) FOR LISK ONLY WORKS IF YOU VOTE.  



LISK VOTING - HOW?

PLEASE GO TO THE MAINNET LISK ONLINE WALLET AT https://login.lisk.io/ AND CAST YOUR VOTE FOR YOUR CHOICE OF DPoS STANDBY DELEGATES TO EVENTUALLY REPLACE OLIVER'S GENESIS MACHINES.  

Any account containing more than 1 Lisk can vote for which 101 Lisk delegates will be forging new blocks every 10 seconds for the Lisk blockchain.  The number of votes you will be giving each candidate is equal to the number of Lisk in the account minus 1 Lisk that is deducted as a voting fee.  An account containing 1000 Lisk that votes for, say, 20 delegate candidates (instead of the 101 maximum) will be giving 999 votes to each of 20 candidates.  If you have multiple Lisk accounts, you will need to vote each account separately.

STEPS TO VOTE

1. Log into your Lisk wallet with your 12 word passphrase at https://login.lisk.io

2. Click on "Forging" on the left-side column

3. Click on "Delegates" on the top-most row (between "Forging" and "My Votes")

4. Now you are on a long webpage divided into two sections: "Top Delegates" and below them, "Standby Delegates".  Only 25 delegates are shown in each section.  At the bottom of each section are "page numbers" you can click to show other delegates for each section in blocks of 25 at a time.  At the time this tutorial is written, all delegates in the "Top" section are Genesis nodes run by Oliver.  Actual individuals who need your votes are currently in the "Standby" section.  After forging rewards start, both sections will contain delegates seeking your vote.  Only those in the "Top Delegate" section are actually forging Lisk blocks and receiving rewards.

5. Click the check boxes for the people you want to vote for.  You may need to go to multiple pages / blocks of 25 delegates to find everybody you are looking for.  You can sort by name and rank to help find specific people.  You can cast up tp 101 votes total, BUT ONLY IN BATCHES OF UP TO 33 AT A TIME.  So to cast 101 votes, you will have to do Steps 5 through 9 a total of four times (for example, 33+33+33+2).  The running total of check boxes you have clicked on are listed at the top of the webpage, just under the "Forging / Delegates / My Votes" link.  Keep an eye on this number and make sure it is 33 or less.  Unclick check boxes if you have to.

6. Click on the green "VOTE" link in the upper right of this webpage.

7. A window will pop up showing the people you are about to vote for.  If this list is OK, click "Confirm Vote".

8. If you have the second withdrawal passphrase activated in your account, you will be asked to enter it and click "Confirm Vote" again.

9. A green acknowledgement saying "Transaction Sent" will display briefly in the upper right corner of your webpage.  You just spent 1 Lisk to vote.

10. Repeat Steps 5-9 as required to vote for all of your desired delegate candidates.

Thanks MalRenolds here is a video I made to help folks who may be new to the crypto world and interested in buying some lisk and voting for lisk delegates.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxMkkZx-FuI    I would also like to point out that there are other reasons why some delegates may have low percentages but contribute alot to the lisk project who IMO would also deserve your votes.

[Diplo]

PLEASE IGNORE ALL PREVIOUS VOTE LISTS DISPLAYED ON LAST TWO PAGES & CONSIDER THIS REVISION

IF YOU QUOTED MY PREVIOUS LIST, PLEASE GO BACK AND EDIT THE QUOTE OUT - THANKS!

*************************************************************************************

LISK VOTING - WHO?

BACKGROUND

Feel free to add my delegate... to that list.   Not sure why <my delegate> was excluded.... My productivity on TestNet is higher than some of these above.

Several people feel left out of my list I posted earlier today so I am going back and trying to do a better / more accurate job.  I am going to combine the first  "who to vote for" post and the second "how to vote" post together here with an updated list.   This new list below is divided into four columns. 

The first column below lists 33 people who have maintained around 95% productivity or better on testnet.   Only God knows how they did this because testnet sucks.  But if they can score that high on the unstable testnet, they sure as hell deserve to be running a node on mainnet.  You should definitely vote for these guys, they know what they are doing.  Note:  I am not in this group.  LOL.

The second column below lists 33 people who have maintained roughly 80%-95% productivity on testnet.  For the unstable testnet, this is damn good and these people deserve your votes, too, IMHO.

The third column below lists 20 people who have a productivity of 50%-80% productivity on testnet.  They're trying and some of them are trying hard.  They will need to do a lot better on mainnet.

The fourth column below lists 19 people who have a productivity under 50% on testnet.  Some have actually left testnet;  some of these never made it into the top 101 and have never had a chance to demonstrate their abilities;  some have gone on to do other important Lisk work (fixcrypt, theredhawk)  Note that 20 in the previous column plus 19 in this column totals 39 delegates, and in your last two Lisk vote transactions (discussed below) you get to choose only 33+2 = 35 delegates.  Welcome to the reality of Delegated Proof of Stake (DPoS) : 

Some people are not going to be chosen as forging Top Delegates. 

There are currently over 600 Standby Delegates registered on mainnet - the 105 that have at least shown up to run testnet, and around 500 more that have not.  Which group do you want running mainnet?

MAINNET VS. TESTNET

Right now Oliver is operating 101 identical genesis servers to run the Lisk mainnet

https://explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor

This is a necessary evil while improved Lisk code is being written (version 0.4.0)  The 0.4.0 version hopefully will be stable enough after testing that Oliver will turn off the Genesis machines, forging rewards will start, and the Lisk mainnet will be start to be run by 101 community-elected DPoS (Delegated Proof of Stake) Top Delegates.

For now, hopeful delegates are practicing their node operating skills over on the Lisk testnet

https://testnet-explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor

This is an expensive way to practice.  It costs all these folks (including me) money out of their own pocket to run these testnet servers, which are generating "test Lisk forging rewards" with no real value. 

This is also a very frustrating way to practice.  The current Lisk code is very challenging to operate.  While the network endures, individual nodes must be laboriously resynchronized often with procedures that can be very time-consuming.

Many people have given up due to expense and frustration and are no longer maintaining their testnet nodes.  You can see them in the testnet explorer link above as having red dots and / or low productivity percentages beside their names.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE SHOWN THE DEDICATION (GENERALLY SPEAKING, HIGH PRODUCTIVITY PERCENTAGES BESIDE THEIR NAMES) TO CONTINUE RUNNING LISK TESTNET NODES WEEK AFTER WEEK. 

THESE PEOPLE ARE WORTHY OF YOUR VOTE TODAY. 

THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS A CHOICE FOR DPoS ACTIVE DELEGATES TO RUN THE LISK MAINNET IN THE MONTHS AND YEARS TO COME.

TESTNET EXPERIENCE VOTING LIST

** 95%+ ** 1st VOTE BATCH atreides bacobob bangomatic cad789 carolina cc001 corsaro devasive digitron diplo eclipsun freemind gordo gr33ndrag0n hmachado lamar litcoincollector nerigal odsejen pawart popcornbag ppan redux rmelo samuray slasheks sonobit splatters tharude vega vipertkd vrlc92 xujian

** 80% - 95% ** 2nd VOTE BATCH anamix area axente crodam cryptostorms dafricash distro djselery goldeneye grajson grumlin hoop hua isabella jasmine joel liskit malreynolds mobgod mrv ntelo ottobene phoenix1969 qbanow rado redsn0w sgdias staticinstance techbytes thrice.pi_prometheus vi1son will bigfisher

** 50% - 80% ** 3RD VOTE BATCH amanai bioly bitcoinuserx bitseed byronp cannabanana cointrader83 cryptobase densmirnov digitalcurrencyltd freddag freeze gregorst idealisk liskgate metal494 mrfrismint stoner19 traderbill wannabe_rotebaron

** under 50% ** 4TH VOTE BATCH arisalexis chey cstewart daoist eastwind_ja fixcrypt forrest freiheitswelle grexx lisknode liskpools ondin proto punkrock rooney savetheworld shinotestnet theredhawk vo1d

DELEGATED PROOF OF STAKE (DPoS) FOR LISK ONLY WORKS IF YOU VOTE. 



LISK VOTING - HOW?

PLEASE GO TO THE MAINNET LISK ONLINE WALLET AT https://login.lisk.io/ AND CAST YOUR VOTE FOR YOUR CHOICE OF DPoS STANDBY DELEGATES TO EVENTUALLY REPLACE OLIVER'S GENESIS MACHINES. 

Any account containing more than 1 Lisk can vote for which 101 Lisk delegates will be forging new blocks every 10 seconds for the Lisk blockchain.  The number of votes you will be giving each candidate is equal to the number of Lisk in the account minus 1 Lisk that is deducted as a voting fee.  An account containing 1000 Lisk that votes for, say, 20 delegate candidates (instead of the 101 maximum) will be giving 999 votes to each of 20 candidates.  If you have multiple Lisk accounts, you will need to vote each account separately.

STEPS TO VOTE

1. Log into your Lisk wallet with your 12 word passphrase at https://login.lisk.io

2. Click on "Forging" on the left-side column

3. Click on "Delegates" on the top-most row (between "Forging" and "My Votes")

4. Now you are on a long webpage divided into two sections: "Top Delegates" and below them, "Standby Delegates".  Only 25 delegates are shown in each section.  At the bottom of each section are "page numbers" you can click to show other delegates for each section in blocks of 25 at a time.  At the time this tutorial is written, all delegates in the "Top" section are Genesis nodes run by Oliver.  Actual individuals who need your votes are currently in the "Standby" section.  After forging rewards start, both sections will contain delegates seeking your vote.  Only those in the "Top Delegate" section are actually forging Lisk blocks and receiving rewards.

5. Click the check boxes for the people you want to vote for.  You may need to go to multiple pages / blocks of 25 delegates to find everybody you are looking for.  You can sort by name and rank to help find specific people.  You can cast up tp 101 votes total, BUT ONLY IN BATCHES OF UP TO 33 AT A TIME.  So to cast 101 votes, you will have to do Steps 5 through 9 a total of four times (for example, 33+33+33+2).  The running total of check boxes you have clicked on are listed at the top of the webpage, just under the "Forging / Delegates / My Votes" link.  Keep an eye on this number and make sure it is 33 or less.  Unclick check boxes if you have to.

6. Click on the green "VOTE" link in the upper right of this webpage.

7. A window will pop up showing the people you are about to vote for.  If this list is OK, click "Confirm Vote".

8. If you have the second withdrawal passphrase activated in your account, you will be asked to enter it and click "Confirm Vote" again.

9. A green acknowledgement saying "Transaction Sent" will display briefly in the upper right corner of your webpage.  You just spent 1 Lisk to vote.

10. Repeat Steps 5-9 as required to vote for all of your desired delegate candidates.

Thanks MalRenolds here is a video I made to help folks who may be new to the crypto world and interested in buying some lisk and voting for lisk delegates.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxMkkZx-FuI

Great write-up Mal.

Cryptostorms -- great walkthrough video!

[chases]

Thank you for all your work as well my friend

[chases]

we need decentralized torrenting.
https://torrentfreak.com/feds-seize-kickasstorrents-domains-charge-owner-160720/

can lisk help with this?

I hope so as well, I was recently banned for life from my high speed satellite ISP for downloading 1 episode of Game of Thrones from kickass

[bbc.reporter]

Come in Lisk Chat and get to know everyone. There's a lot going on outside of BitcoinTalk. I would say 90% of what is happening with Lisk is happening outside of this forum.

That is good news. Sometimes I think of selling all because some person in the forum is making up any story to make Lisk look bad. In truth people should be buying in right now. The price has stabilized and there is nowhere to go but up. The developers will settle soon in an office and it is all work and development from now on. I hope start ups will start to notice this and build apps in the network.

[bep42]

Come in Lisk Chat and get to know everyone. There's a lot going on outside of BitcoinTalk. I would say 90% of what is happening with Lisk is happening outside of this forum.

That is good news. Sometimes I think of selling all because some person in the forum is making up any story to make Lisk look bad....

Oh no dont be trolled by all the dumb people here.
Follow yourself and it's enough.

[oOxenonOo]

Someone cooking LSK in pressure cooker, STEEM is whistling out. 

[bbc.reporter]

we need decentralized torrenting.
https://torrentfreak.com/feds-seize-kickasstorrents-domains-charge-owner-160720/

can lisk help with this?

That would be awesome! Lately more and more public torrent sites get shut down by the feds. Luckily the (bigger) private ones are still in tact, IPT for example.

The better way is to get start ups to test the platform and build proof of concept apps in Lisk. This will be the only way for everyone, even outside of the cryptosphere to notice. Building a torrent app is ok and useful but I doubt it will be a big thing in the platform. The most ambitious ideas I have come across are the ones that Ethereum start ups have in the pipeline. Some of them are listed in icocountdown.com.

[bticgoinsuxial]

who will be responsible for all illegal content when decentralized torrenting becomes a thing?

[Soul_eater_123]

who will be responsible for all illegal content when decentralized torrenting becomes a thing?

You will.

Seriously it is the responsibility of the people sharing and downloading NOT the platform.

[ApexEvo]

who will be responsible for all illegal content when decentralized torrenting becomes a thing?

no one, that is the point

[LiskHQ]

who will be responsible for all illegal content when decentralized torrenting becomes a thing?

no one, that is the point

At this point I estimate the sidechain delegates (NOT mainchain!), but for something like that a normal PoS system might be better.

[jjmv]

Rocket boosters are fueling, pressure is building...

I have a feeling... ooo ooo 

[makuny]

Will the price rise? 46000 sat is a Joke or not?

[Soul_eater_123]

Will the price rise? 46000 sat is a Joke or not?

It's the same post you made in the WAVES thread.

[Thereisnospoon]

Will the price rise? 46000 sat is a Joke or not?

It's the same post you made in the WAVES thread.

You have to be added to delegates list for the department of trolling monitoring lol
How good  to have people who keep pulse on the Thread.

[Soul_eater_123]

Will the price rise? 46000 sat is a Joke or not?

It's the same post you made in the WAVES thread.

You have to be added to delegates list for the department of trolling monitoring lol
How good  to have people who keep pulse on the Thread.

Thanks for the sentiment.  These new trolls don't even put any effort into it anymore!  They could at least try to vary it, maybe make it humorous, try something.  Now it's just posting the same stuff on multiple threads.

[LucD88]

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Thanks for the sentiment.  These new trolls don't even put any effort into it anymore!  They could at least try to vary it, maybe make it humorous, try something.  Now it's just posting the same stuff on multiple threads.

I sometimes wonder if they're humans, or fully automated bots that post utter nonsense..