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Author Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers  (Read 3073046 times)
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April 07, 2016, 07:10:17 PM
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...mining bring a so big pleasure... Also, once you get your mining equipement, you can mine all the coins while with PoS you need to sell them and buy another crypto-currency....

Porn allows big pleasures with blondes, brunettes and redheads, too.  But having and raising a baby to change the world requires a good wife.  

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April 07, 2016, 07:12:05 PM
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...after all POW is actually secure.

We agree.   PoW is actually secure.

BUT...  PoW is an incredibly inefficient and wasteful way of obtaining that security, and requires trillions upon trillions of wasted hashes per blocktime.  The key point is DPoS Lisk obtains blockchain security levels equal to that of PoW Bitcoin or Ethereium with ONLY ONE hash per 10 second blocktime, NOT trillions of hashes like BTC or ETH.

That's why Lisk is being valued so highly.


LISK represents BOTH a revolutionary way to secure a blockchain AS WELL AS a revolutionary easy way to create sidechains and dapps.

Lisk is superior to Ethereum on both counts.  Period.


java is the buggiest mess ever lol...who you joking  Cheesy

LOL      .js is not JAVA



well you tell me what the hell "js" stands for? bwaahahaah

Node.js runs stand-alone JavaScript programs.  ...does ORACLE know that you are doing this?  lol

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April 07, 2016, 07:13:42 PM
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...mining bring a so big pleasure... Also, once you get your mining equipement, you can mine all the coins while with PoS you need to sell them and buy another crypto-currency....

Porn allows big pleasures with blondes, brunettes and redheads, too.  Having and raising a baby to change the world requires a good wife.  



SO EPIC hahahahha  Cheesy
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April 07, 2016, 07:14:14 PM
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...after all POW is actually secure.

We agree.   PoW is actually secure.

BUT...  PoW is an incredibly inefficient and wasteful way of obtaining that security, and requires trillions upon trillions of wasted hashes per blocktime.  The key point is DPoS Lisk obtains blockchain security levels equal to that of PoW Bitcoin or Ethereium with ONLY ONE hash per 10 second blocktime, NOT trillions of hashes like BTC or ETH.

That's why Lisk is being valued so highly.


LISK represents BOTH a revolutionary way to secure a blockchain AS WELL AS a revolutionary easy way to create sidechains and dapps.

Lisk is superior to Ethereum on both counts.  Period.


java is the buggiest mess ever lol...who you joking  Cheesy

JavaScript is not Java.
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April 07, 2016, 07:18:49 PM
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...after all POW is actually secure.

We agree.   PoW is actually secure.

BUT...  PoW is an incredibly inefficient and wasteful way of obtaining that security, and requires trillions upon trillions of wasted hashes per blocktime.  The key point is DPoS Lisk obtains blockchain security levels equal to that of PoW Bitcoin or Ethereium with ONLY ONE hash per 10 second blocktime, NOT trillions of hashes like BTC or ETH.

That's why Lisk is being valued so highly.


LISK represents BOTH a revolutionary way to secure a blockchain AS WELL AS a revolutionary easy way to create sidechains and dapps.

Lisk is superior to Ethereum on both counts.  Period.


java is the buggiest mess ever lol...who you joking  Cheesy


Take your pills gembitz.
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April 07, 2016, 07:19:01 PM
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...mining bring a so big pleasure... Also, once you get your mining equipement, you can mine all the coins while with PoS you need to sell them and buy another crypto-currency....

Porn allows big pleasures with blondes, brunettes and redheads, too.  But having and raising a baby to change the world requires a good wife.  


Nicely done.  Grin
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April 07, 2016, 07:24:10 PM
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Lol this lol that, 1up this, up that. It's like an AOL old school chatroom.

Back to business. Has any additional exchanges expressed interest in selling IOUs?
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April 07, 2016, 07:25:42 PM
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Lol this lol that, 1up this, up that. It's like an AOL old school chatroom.

Back to business. Has any additional exchanges expressed interest in selling IOUs?
Nasdaq n NYSE
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April 07, 2016, 07:28:38 PM
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...mining bring a so big pleasure... Also, once you get your mining equipement, you can mine all the coins while with PoS you need to sell them and buy another crypto-currency....

Porn allows big pleasures with blondes, brunettes and redheads, too.  But having and raising a baby to change the world requires a good wife.  



Nice comparison Cheesy ! I bet Lisk is the good wife ? Lisk is a bit special, because it does not allow everyone to stack, only a minority that probably already has a lot of money. Even if you're rich or competent, you might never be elected as a delegate Undecided...
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April 07, 2016, 07:40:17 PM
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mining is not stupid, its classic art of crypto,

Mining is stupid.  

Mining was a way to get cryptocoins started, just like sails and coal steamships were a way to get international commerce started.  Today, container ships rule.  So will Lisk.

Mining is stupid.
Mining is not stupid. Mining is a legitimate way to attract nerds to crypto. It is an art form. Assembling a GPU miner, configuring the settings, connecting to a pool, seeing the coins arrive in your wallet- it's an unforgettable and very rewarding experience. It brings a sense of realism to these abstract tokens we're creating and trading. It also fosters a virtual ecosystem around the platform.

It's OK if Lisk does staking instead of mining. We'll just be attracting a different type of nerd to the foray. It would be useful to think about all the mutually beneficial ways one could earn Lisk, because you're not going to setup a virtuous economic cycle if everyone has to buy their way into a token. For a contextual example of this problem, see NXT.

I would argue that "buying your way into a token" is EXACTLY what is needed to create a "virtuous economic cycle".  BTC/ETH mining and even  Lisk forging is creating "money" from thin air.  The "unforgetable and very rewarding <mining> experience" you refer to is an illusion that makes the participant feel incorrectly like they have contributed something valuable to society.  Wasted crypto hashes generated by a miner are NOT like a bag of corn they grew or a car rolling off an assembly line where they welded the body together.  All a miner has done is wasted a lot of electricity, creating a lot of environmental pollution in the process.  They have also diverted trillions upon trillions of CPU cycles away from achieving something profoundly worthwhile like http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/.  All in the name of greed.

"Buying your way into a token" is code for "letting something represent a store of real value", which is what you do when you open a bank account or buy a prepaid debit card.  THIS is the fundamental kind transaction in our society, not "mining coins out of thin air".  If Lisk can start replacing bank accounts by "buying your way into a token", we will have a market penetration and success level we can only dream about.

Wasteful, unsustainable exponential-growth mining is a type of masturbation by Bitcoin and Ethereum nerds that will never produce a baby who will grow up to change the world.

Mining is stupid.

Everyone will have their opinion on mining, but remind you that without Bitcoin mining nobody be here.
It was groundbreaking, as was the steam engine in its days.

This.




money out of thin air ? lol you need a job on wall street!  Grin  ~this is BITCOINTALK  after all POW is actually secure.

security is only one side of the coin.  You can't just have security or bust as the only thing "going" for a coin.  More like Miners who spent a ton of money on rigs are now finding they are getting left in the dust.
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April 07, 2016, 07:40:41 PM
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BCT Signature Bounty Rewards

THIS BOUNTY CAMPAIGN HAS ENDED!      
                  
Hey Guys,

The BCT Signature Campaign Bounty has been updated as there were duplicates in the data. Minor mistake, it's been fixed. Good news is, if you participated in the BCT Signature Campaign Bounty, you will now receive a bit more LISK!  Grin Here are the new numbers:

  • If you had the signature since Week One, you will receive a total of 1011 LISK
  • If you had the signature since Week Two, you will receive a total of 809 LISK
  • If you had the signature since Week Three, you will receive a total of 607 LISK
  • If you had the signature since Week Four, you will receive a total of 404 LISK
  • If you had the signature since Week Five, you will receive a total of 202 LISK

Remember, if you participated in the ICO and have validated your Lisk Address, you may send me a PM (if you are on the list) with your address to receive priority on collecting this bounty after the launch.

Same procedure with the Facebook bounties, as I h ave begun collecting addresses through Facebook. Twitter and Newsletter will soon begin. Smiley

Thanks for reading! And sorry for the confusion. (Thank you bob75coin for noticing this Smiley )

Joel

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April 07, 2016, 07:41:15 PM
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well you tell me what the hell "js" stands for? bwaahahaah

Node.js runs stand-alone JavaScript programs.  ...does ORACLE know that you are doing this?  lol

Please don't tell Oracle  Cry btw, for idiots like you: http://www.tutorialspoint.com/execute_nodejs_online.php
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April 07, 2016, 07:45:26 PM
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...after all POW is actually secure.

We agree.   PoW is actually secure.

BUT...  PoW is an incredibly inefficient and wasteful way of obtaining that security, and requires trillions upon trillions of wasted hashes per blocktime.  The key point is DPoS Lisk obtains blockchain security levels equal to that of PoW Bitcoin or Ethereium with ONLY ONE hash per 10 second blocktime, NOT trillions of hashes like BTC or ETH.

That's why Lisk is being valued so highly.


LISK represents BOTH a revolutionary way to secure a blockchain AS WELL AS a revolutionary easy way to create sidechains and dapps.

Lisk is superior to Ethereum on both counts.  Period.
I know you know all these points by heart, and you're good at delivering them. But DPOS is not the panacea you think it is. If it were, every currency would move to it.
1. Regarding resilience, how do you guard against a DDOS attack on the 101 delegates?
2. Regarding decentralization, how do you prevent a Sybil attack of delegates?
3. Regarding incentives, long term, how do keep your voters interested in nominating the delegates?


Ans. 1. You can't 2. You can't 3. You won't

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April 07, 2016, 07:49:27 PM
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BCT Signature Bounty Rewards

THIS BOUNTY CAMPAIGN HAS ENDED!      
                  
Hey Guys,

The BCT Signature Campaign Bounty has been updated as there were duplicates in the data. Minor mistake, it's been fixed. Good news is, if you participated in the BCT Signature Campaign Bounty, you will now receive a bit more LISK!  Grin Here are the new numbers:

  • If you had the signature since Week One, you will receive a total of 1011 LISK
  • If you had the signature since Week Two, you will receive a total of 809 LISK
  • If you had the signature since Week Three, you will receive a total of 607 LISK
  • If you had the signature since Week Four, you will receive a total of 404 LISK
  • If you had the signature since Week Five, you will receive a total of 202 LISK

Remember, if you participated in the ICO and have validated your Lisk Address, you may send me a PM (if you are on the list) with your address to receive priority on collecting this bounty after the launch.

Same procedure with the Facebook bounties, as I h ave begun collecting addresses through Facebook. Twitter and Newsletter will soon begin. Smiley

Thanks for reading! And sorry for the confusion. (Thank you bob75coin for noticing this Smiley )

Joel

Lol 1011 LISK at 0.013BTC would be 13BTC :p
Nice potential profit from signature Cheesy

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April 07, 2016, 07:49:48 PM
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Just got an answer from Joel about sig campaign. He noted my lisk address, cool guy.
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April 07, 2016, 07:53:24 PM
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Im seriously thinking about putting my Lisk in a wallet with a password that i can only access in 1 year to finally becoming rich :p

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April 07, 2016, 07:54:13 PM
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...after all POW is actually secure.

We agree.   PoW is actually secure.

BUT...  PoW is an incredibly inefficient and wasteful way of obtaining that security, and requires trillions upon trillions of wasted hashes per blocktime.  The key point is DPoS Lisk obtains blockchain security levels equal to that of PoW Bitcoin or Ethereium with ONLY ONE hash per 10 second blocktime, NOT trillions of hashes like BTC or ETH.

That's why Lisk is being valued so highly.


LISK represents BOTH a revolutionary way to secure a blockchain AS WELL AS a revolutionary easy way to create sidechains and dapps.

Lisk is superior to Ethereum on both counts.  Period.


java is the buggiest mess ever lol...who you joking  Cheesy

JavaScript is not Java.


i'll just leave this here for youes ===> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-site_scripting


 Wink

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April 07, 2016, 07:56:35 PM
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There will be insane dumping from signatures... eitherway... one month delay...

i hope we wont use a new verb after mtgox...

You ve been LISKED!!!


 
 
 
 
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April 07, 2016, 07:57:46 PM
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BCT Signature Bounty Rewards

THIS BOUNTY CAMPAIGN HAS ENDED!      
                  
Hey Guys,

The BCT Signature Campaign Bounty has been updated as there were duplicates in the data. Minor mistake, it's been fixed. Good news is, if you participated in the BCT Signature Campaign Bounty, you will now receive a bit more LISK!  Grin Here are the new numbers:

  • If you had the signature since Week One, you will receive a total of 1011 LISK
  • If you had the signature since Week Two, you will receive a total of 809 LISK
  • If you had the signature since Week Three, you will receive a total of 607 LISK
  • If you had the signature since Week Four, you will receive a total of 404 LISK
  • If you had the signature since Week Five, you will receive a total of 202 LISK

Remember, if you participated in the ICO and have validated your Lisk Address, you may send me a PM (if you are on the list) with your address to receive priority on collecting this bounty after the launch.

Same procedure with the Facebook bounties, as I h ave begun collecting addresses through Facebook. Twitter and Newsletter will soon begin. Smiley

Thanks for reading! And sorry for the confusion. (Thank you bob75coin for noticing this Smiley )

Joel



so the promo is OVER before the coin is even launched? lmfao  Cheesy

©2021*MY POSTS ARE STRICTLY FOR NOVELTY AND/OR PRESERVATION/COLLECTING PURPOSES ONLY!*It should not be regarded as investment/trading advice.*advocate to promote sharing and free software for the bitcoin community* #EFF #FSF #XTZ ===> START WITH NOTHING AND BUILD IT INTO SOMETHING!
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April 07, 2016, 07:59:20 PM
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...after all POW is actually secure.

We agree.   PoW is actually secure.

BUT...  PoW is an incredibly inefficient and wasteful way of obtaining that security, and requires trillions upon trillions of wasted hashes per blocktime.  The key point is DPoS Lisk obtains blockchain security levels equal to that of PoW Bitcoin or Ethereium with ONLY ONE hash per 10 second blocktime, NOT trillions of hashes like BTC or ETH.

That's why Lisk is being valued so highly.


LISK represents BOTH a revolutionary way to secure a blockchain AS WELL AS a revolutionary easy way to create sidechains and dapps.

Lisk is superior to Ethereum on both counts.  Period.
I know you know all these points by heart, and you're good at delivering them. But DPOS is not the panacea you think it is. If it were, every currency would move to it.
1. Regarding resilience, how do you guard against a DDOS attack on the 101 delegates?
2. Regarding decentralization, how do you prevent a Sybil attack of delegates?
3. Regarding incentives, long term, how do keep your voters interested in nominating the delegates?


Ans. 1. You can't 2. You can't 3. You won't


yea, best answers ever.
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