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How do the super delegates play into this? Can they swing the election to Clinton even if Bernie wins the nomination?
Yes they can, because they're not bound by caucus or primary results. It's never been done before, and would certainly destroy the party if they did such Superdelegates most of the time follow the majority vote then? What are they used for then? History lesson? Before 1968, there was no primary vote... party leaders on both sides selected their candidate... In 1982, democratic party leaders decided they wanted to pick the nominee again, so they invented superdelegates to override the popular vote In 2008, most of the superdelegates pledged for Hillary Clinton early in the primary process (like they did this year)... after Barrack Obama gained a majority of the popular vote, the superdelegates changed their votes to support Obama instead of Hillary |
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Moloch (OP)
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March 11, 2016, 06:13:36 PM |
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Moloch (OP)
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March 11, 2016, 06:14:47 PM |
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aardvark15
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March 12, 2016, 04:17:12 PM |
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How do the super delegates play into this? Can they swing the election to Clinton even if Bernie wins the nomination?
Yes they can, because they're not bound by caucus or primary results. It's never been done before, and would certainly destroy the party if they did such Superdelegates most of the time follow the majority vote then? What are they used for then? History lesson? Before 1968, there was no primary vote... party leaders on both sides selected their candidate... In 1982, democratic party leaders decided they wanted to pick the nominee again, so they invented superdelegates to override the popular vote In 2008, most of the superdelegates pledged for Hillary Clinton early in the primary process (like they did this year)... after Barrack Obama gained a majority of the popular vote, the superdelegates changed their votes to support Obama instead of Hillary Thanks for the info. I was not aware of the history of the superdelegates. It sounds like they have all the power if they choose to use it. |
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Moloch (OP)
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March 13, 2016, 07:47:37 PM |
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Sarah Silverman can feel the bern! Real Time with Bill Maher: Sarah Silverman Feels the Bern (HBO) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SUQvEyobckIf she can pull some of the female vote away from Hillary, Bernie will win in a landslide (80% of Hillary voters are female) |
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March 14, 2016, 10:20:51 AM |
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How do the super delegates play into this? Can they swing the election to Clinton even if Bernie wins the nomination?
Yes they can, because they're not bound by caucus or primary results. It's never been done before, and would certainly destroy the party if they did such Superdelegates most of the time follow the majority vote then? What are they used for then? Before 1968, there was no primary vote... party leaders on both sides selected their candidate... In 1982, democratic party leaders decided they wanted to pick the nominee again, so they invented superdelegates to override the popular vote In 2008, most of the superdelegates pledged for Hillary Clinton early in the primary process (like they did this year)... after Barrack Obama gained a majority of the popular vote, the superdelegates changed their votes to support Obama instead of Hillary Well sorry but I never studied the history of foreign primaries Oo Anyway. Thanks for the info. |
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March 14, 2016, 01:36:38 PM |
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Sanders neck and neck with Hitlery in the states of Missouri, Ohio, and Illinois according to the latest opinion polls.
Missouri: Sanders - 47% vs Hitlery - 46% (PPP)
Illinois: Sanders - 48% vs Hitlery - 46% (CBS News/YouGov) and Hitlery - 48% vs Sanders - 45% (PPP)
Ohio: Hitlery - 51% vs Sanders - 46% (Quinnipiac)
Unpredictable!!!!
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March 14, 2016, 02:09:52 PM |
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Sanders neck and neck with Hitlery in the states of Missouri, Ohio, and Illinois according to the latest opinion polls.
Missouri: Sanders - 47% vs Hitlery - 46% (PPP)
Illinois: Sanders - 48% vs Hitlery - 46% (CBS News/YouGov) and Hitlery - 48% vs Sanders - 45% (PPP)
Ohio: Hitlery - 51% vs Sanders - 46% (Quinnipiac)
Unpredictable!!!!
Yeah but we saw the efficiency of opinion polls... |
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March 14, 2016, 11:46:26 PM |
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Sanders neck and neck with Hitlery in the states of Missouri, Ohio, and Illinois according to the latest opinion polls.
Missouri: Sanders - 47% vs Hitlery - 46% (PPP)
Illinois: Sanders - 48% vs Hitlery - 46% (CBS News/YouGov) and Hitlery - 48% vs Sanders - 45% (PPP)
Ohio: Hitlery - 51% vs Sanders - 46% (Quinnipiac)
Unpredictable!!!!
Yeah but we saw the efficiency of opinion polls... It's hard to tell with the polls, but Sanders has shown growing momentum in supporters. I think the polls tend to underestimate Sander's support for some reason. |
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aardvark15
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March 16, 2016, 12:20:56 AM |
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Moloch,
You did such a good job predicting Michigan, what are your predictions for tonight's voting?
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March 16, 2016, 12:25:32 AM |
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Huge setback for Bernie. He is losing Ohio very badly. According to early results, Hitlery is leading by around 38 points. Exit polls suggest that he might narrowly win both Illinois and Missouri, but that is not enough. As expected, Hitlery is winning Florida and North Carolina.
The Republican race is even murkier. Trump lost Ohio, and he might lose Missouri as well. This can lead to a complete stalemate.
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March 16, 2016, 01:02:44 AM |
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Moloch,
You did such a good job predicting Michigan, what are your predictions for tonight's voting?
A broken clock is right, dice they say. |
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March 16, 2016, 01:50:21 AM |
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I just got approached today about who im voting for..
And honestly when these people were telling me how great it is, I`m just thinking of obama back then.
Seriously though, every time we get this whole grounded politician and then gets voted in office, he screws up playing as a lobbyist.
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March 16, 2016, 01:54:33 AM |
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Moloch (OP)
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March 16, 2016, 03:45:41 AM
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Moloch,
You did such a good job predicting Michigan, what are your predictions for tonight's voting?
Michigan was easy because they have an open-primary (and I lived there for 15 years)... since 80% of independents favor Bernie over Hillary, that will swing the vote ~20% towards Bernie I figure as usual, Bernie wins the northern/democratic states, and Hillary wins the southern/republican states (though I consider Missouri northern and Ohio southern) Not sure which is the best strategy... I suppose you need to win a few southern swing states like Florida to win a general election... But, what good is it to campaign in republican states like Texas? Hillary would never win Texas in a general election Higher IQ = Bernie supporter  |
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March 16, 2016, 09:12:20 AM |
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Moloch,
You did such a good job predicting Michigan, what are your predictions for tonight's voting?
Michigan was easy because they have an open-primary (and I lived there for 15 years)... since 80% of independents favor Bernie over Hillary, that will swing the vote ~20% towards Bernie I figure as usual, Bernie wins the northern/democratic states, and Hillary wins the southern/republican states (though I consider Missouri northern and Ohio southern) Not sure which is the best strategy... I suppose you need to win a few southern swing states like Florida to win a general election... But, what good is it to campaign in republican states like Texas? Hillary would never win Texas in a general election Higher IQ = Bernie supporter Lol, Not exactly Moloch. You're talking about IQ but the map is talking about education. Not the same thing you know?  |
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March 16, 2016, 09:22:27 AM |
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That map is quite interesting. I would sum up Bernie with this pic.  Unfortunatelly politicians are like this, they say what people want to hear. |
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valta4065
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March 16, 2016, 09:33:30 AM |
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That map is quite interesting. I would sum up Bernie with this pic. Unfortunatelly politicians are like this, they say what people want to hear. Well, socialists ideas are quite new in the USA. And all candidates are fucking old. Don't know why people don't have the balls to vote for a 25/30 years old. He would be much better with lots of new ideas to deal with things. |
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Moloch (OP)
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March 16, 2016, 10:08:02 AM |
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That map is quite interesting.
I would sum up Bernie with this pic.
Unfortunatelly politicians are like this, they say what people want to hear.
Well, socialists ideas are quite new in the USA. And all candidates are fucking old. Don't know why people don't have the balls to vote for a 25/30 years old. He would be much better with lots of new ideas to deal with things. If I recall correctly, Senators are required to be at least 30, and president/vp is required to be 35 |
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