[BitFunder] BTCINVEST - Low risk investment fund | Market cap: 2000+ BTC

[lunarboy]

Which of these assets can be seized from TradeFortress by their issuers since he appears to be trying to steal everything from BTCINVEST investors? For example, would friedcat help seize the 260 directly held ACICMINER shares if they have not already changed hands?

I expect they'll be liquidated long before now, but it can't hurt to ask. AsicMiner & Just-Dice are the biggest holdings, I've sent their owners a message asking for help.

Did you ever receive a response from friedcat on this? I presume they were all liquidated. If by some miracle they were not and he still holds them then He might be the best person to handle the AM shares and passthrough. If not then It should probably fall to Ukyo as he also will have control over the 2,057 ukyo.loan shares and possibly some influence with the 16309 graet.loan shares. if they have not already gone.??

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[gotpetum]

Any G.AsicMiner-PT shares held by any of TF's known accounts are currently not claimable.

Hi Ukyo and other btcinvestors,

Ukyo, with your help, we were able to prevent TF from profiting further, without having to debase ourselves by relying on the government. Thanks!!!

I don't think handing the PT shares to FC makes sense. We have a lot of different assets to liquidate, and we can't expect the issuer of each asset to do us the favor of liquidating the assets that she issues. In particular, FC is very busy, has no reason to help, and isn't remarkably communicative.

And, not that Ukyo offered, but it's probably inappropriate to ask him to manage the liquidation (i.e., weex).

We should either:
(A) find someone with a vested interest in liquidating the funds, or
(B) create someone with a vested interest by paying that person to liquidate the funds.

Regardless of whether we choose (A) or (B), we should try to have the liquidator leave a lot of (~300) BTC in escrow. However, I'm not sure we can find a liquidator that will put up that kind of money. Would someone look?

Now, I'm reluctant to say this, but I might be a good choice if we go with (A):
(1) I'm the investor with the most BTCINVEST shares (500 @ 1Jw9z...Qtd),
(2) I'm okay with sharing my identity and contact info,
(3) I have a good reputation (PhD student at Berkeley), and
(4) I'm offering.

So, what do you think we should do?

We should also continue to talk to the issuers of the other assets that underly BTCINVEST. I've sent a similar plea on 2013-12-05 to TF for the direct AM shares, but I haven't received a response. We still need to find out what happened to the assets in btct.co, and talk to dooglus of JD. Does anyone (who won't make threats) want to help?

I would prefer to take ownership of the shares, but the chances of there ending up fractional shares is probably very high.

In any case, you can buy the shares as they are liquidated, right?

[gotpetum]

Regardless of whether we choose (A) or (B), we should try to have the liquidator leave a lot of (~300) BTC in escrow. However, I'm not sure we can find a liquidator that will put up that kind of money. Would someone look?

Actually, I don't really know what funds we have remaining in bitfunder. Of course, if it were only 42 AM shares, then we wouldn't need more than 13 BTC in escrow.

[liteuser]

We should also continue to talk to the issuers of the other assets that underly BTCINVEST. I've sent a similar plea on 2013-12-05 to TF for the direct AM shares, but I haven't received a response. We still need to find out what happened to the assets in btct.co, and talk to dooglus of JD. Does anyone (who won't make threats) want to help?

According to dooglus when the inputs.io "hack" happened:

The current situation is that I took 42 BTC from TradeFortress' Just-Dice account to replace the stolen coins, and then let him withdraw the rest.

So we current are not holding any of his coins "hostage", and therefore can no longer accept inputs.io deposits without risking client funds.

Not idea if that was a personal TradeFortress JD account or these funds belong to BTCINVEST ...

[lunarboy]

We should either:
(A) find someone with a vested interest in liquidating the funds, or
(B) create someone with a vested interest by paying that person to liquidate the funds.

Regardless of whether we choose (A) or (B), we should try to have the liquidator leave a lot of (~300) BTC in escrow. However, I'm not sure we can find a liquidator that will put up that kind of money. Would someone look?

Good suggestion, I would think it might be worth asking Havelock or even TAT as both of these have good reputation, funds and some element of vested interest.

[Ukyo]

There are a few issues involved here.

A. The share count is less than 42.
B. I think, (I do not have the info in front of me when typing this), that the shares I have frozen were in TF's personal account. I am not sure there are any in the BTCInvest account.
C. While I may have control enough to distribute shares, FriedCat has full control over past and future dividends and is holding that from here on.
So in theory he has more control, I am just giving him confirmed and completed versions of the already public AssetList for G.AsicMiner-PT that he has.

As soon as I have a chance I will confirm some of this.

Also, a few people have asked if I would be willing to take over the BTCInvest asset and try to help wrap it up since TF has disappeared since I have the most knowledge over the account at least on BF. As to this, I would consider it, but only if TF does not pop up and agree to take it over and do it right, and if the other asset issuers would accept control over the assets since I obviously would not be able to sign a message for the public address. If it were to happen, I would probably put up a similar claim portal to the one I am making for Ukyo.Loan. And also the majority of BTCInvest'ors would need to agree.

-Ukyo

[VJain]

There are a few issues involved here.

A. The share count is less than 42.
B. I think, (I do not have the info in front of me when typing this), that the shares I have frozen were in TF's personal account. I am not sure there are any in the BTCInvest account.
C. While I may have control enough to distribute shares, FriedCat has full control over past and future dividends and is holding that from here on.
So in theory he has more control, I am just giving him confirmed and completed versions of the already public AssetList for G.AsicMiner-PT that he has.

As soon as I have a chance I will confirm some of this.

Also, a few people have asked if I would be willing to take over the BTCInvest asset and try to help wrap it up since TF has disappeared since I have the most knowledge over the account at least on BF. As to this, I would consider it, but only if TF does not pop up and agree to take it over and do it right, and if the other asset issuers would accept control over the assets since I obviously would not be able to sign a message for the public address. If it were to happen, I would probably put up a similar claim portal to the one I am making for Ukyo.Loan. And also the majority of BTCInvest'ors would need to agree.

-Ukyo

Thanks Ukyo.

Question: For those who transferred their shares to TF (for integration into the portal), would we be able to reclaim these shares in Limbo?

[Ukyo]

Thanks Ukyo.

Question: For those who transferred their shares to TF (for integration into the portal), would we be able to reclaim these shares in Limbo?

I would have to go by the final list on BitFunder.
To my knowledge TF did not do anything for anyone so anything "transferred" to him has no use/value/effect.

-Ukyo

[strello]

Also, a few people have asked if I would be willing to take over the BTCInvest asset and try to help wrap it up since TF has disappeared since I have the most knowledge over the account at least on BF. As to this, I would consider it, but only if TF does not pop up and agree to take it over and do it right, and if the other asset issuers would accept control over the assets since I obviously would not be able to sign a message for the public address. If it were to happen, I would probably put up a similar claim portal to the one I am making for Ukyo.Loan. And also the majority of BTCInvest'ors would need to agree.

-Ukyo

I was holding 115 shares of BTCINVEST when TF froze it, and later disappeared. I would definitely agree to Ukyo taking control of any remaining assets on Bitfunder and liquidating them for the benefit of shareholders.

Thank you very much for your offer Ukyo! An unexpected bit of positive news at the start of the New Year.

Happy New Year to all.

[MaxwellsDemon]

Also, a few people have asked if I would be willing to take over the BTCInvest asset and try to help wrap it up since TF has disappeared since I have the most knowledge over the account at least on BF. As to this, I would consider it, but only if TF does not pop up and agree to take it over and do it right, and if the other asset issuers would accept control over the assets since I obviously would not be able to sign a message for the public address. If it were to happen, I would probably put up a similar claim portal to the one I am making for Ukyo.Loan. And also the majority of BTCInvest'ors would need to agree.

-Ukyo

I was holding 115 shares of BTCINVEST when TF froze it, and later disappeared. I would definitely agree to Ukyo taking control of any remaining assets on Bitfunder and liquidating them for the benefit of shareholders.

Thank you very much for your offer Ukyo! An unexpected bit of positive news at the start of the New Year.

Happy New Year to all.

I own 10 shares of BTCINVEST and I second that. Thank you Ukyo.

[babybonobo]

That would be great, Ukyo, thanks..

[joele]

There are a few issues involved here.

A. The share count is less than 42.
B. I think, (I do not have the info in front of me when typing this), that the shares I have frozen were in TF's personal account. I am not sure there are any in the BTCInvest account.
C. While I may have control enough to distribute shares, FriedCat has full control over past and future dividends and is holding that from here on.
So in theory he has more control, I am just giving him confirmed and completed versions of the already public AssetList for G.AsicMiner-PT that he has.

As soon as I have a chance I will confirm some of this.

Also, a few people have asked if I would be willing to take over the BTCInvest asset and try to help wrap it up since TF has disappeared since I have the most knowledge over the account at least on BF. As to this, I would consider it, but only if TF does not pop up and agree to take it over and do it right, and if the other asset issuers would accept control over the assets since I obviously would not be able to sign a message for the public address. If it were to happen, I would probably put up a similar claim portal to the one I am making for Ukyo.Loan. And also the majority of BTCInvest'ors would need to agree.

-Ukyo

Anything that will return my BTC back I will agree and thanks you.

[Rodyland]

What we need is a liquidator.  Short of chasing TF personally for what he owns (plan C?), someone who can confiscate some of his assets to distribute to his shareholders sounds like a great idea for a plan B (plan A being TF manning up and doing what's right).

As the person who used to run the exchange upon which a good number of BTCINVEST assets were held, I agree that Ukyo would be in a good position to do this.

If BTCINVEST held assets in weexchange then this also puts Ukyo in a good place to reclaim those assets on behalf of shareholders.

If memory serves, not only did BTCINVEST hold exchange-listed shares, it also held direct shares in AM - and in this case, convincing Friedcat to either liquidate the shares, or give them to Ukyo to liquidate on behalf of BTCINVEST shareholders, would also be a good move IMHO.


Fingers crossed.

[gotpetum]

I agree that Ukyo would be in a good position to do this.

I would agree that Ukyo is in a good position to do this. At least it wouldn't add another person to the chain of people that could lose our money.

Unfortunately, Ukyo has undergoing financial trouble of his own. Here is the case against him. I'm very sorry to have to air this information.
(1) He ran a site similar in functionality and size to TF's inputs.io. As of a few months ago, people were unable to withdraw their coins.
(2) Ukyo continued to allow deposits for more than a month, without posting a notice that they would not be able to withdraw.
(3) Ukyo confirmed that the bitcoins where there, but that the software was overloaded. (Spoiler: the coins were later reported "gone")
(4) Ukyo claimed he was manually processing withdrawals, and the depositors planned to announce when they had received their withdrawal. Nobody announced that they received a withdrawal following Ukyo's claim (until the recent 6% payout, which I'm very grateful for).
(5) Ukyo made several promises that he would be able to explain what happened (and that the news would cause a spike in the bitcoin price).
(6) Ukyo asked the NeoBee person (CryptoCyrpus) for help. CryptoCyrpus made several promises that they would be able to explain what happened with everyone's money. CryptoCyrpus finally reported that the bitcoins were "gone."
(7) Most recently, Ukyo claims he can't tell us what happened to our money because he signed an NDA. He apparently signed something that could get him in trouble if he told us what happened to the money we gave him.

I enumerated these by memory, so I might have made minor errors, but I think each point is evident from the public record.

I appreciate his offer to help, and there's a good chance that it might help us get our money back. Also, if he's willing to help, I'm happy to help redeem his reputation. And, there's a good chance that posting this might make him angry and refuse to help, and for that, I apologize. But fool me three times, shame on me :-)

On the other hand, it's pretty bad that Ukyo signed something saying that he can't tell us what happened to our money. I assume it's generally not sound business to trust someone with your money who has lost all of your money before.

Therefore, I'd prefer he transfers the assets to TAT (if he agrees, or pretty much anyone else) for him to liquidate. Transfering the AM-PT shares, at least, is as simple as sending FriedCat an email. I'd happily pay a % to TAT (and even to Ukyo, for helping) for this service.

I'm open to discussion, and like you, I hope this is resolved quickly.

[Ukyo]

Nothing wrong with posting facts. So let's clear some things up.

1. Correct
2. The site allowed deposits for 2+ years. Notice that all funds would not be available for withdraw went up within a few days of the situation becoming what it is now.
3. Correct
4. Correct, and incorrect. Many users posted that they were receiving manual payouts until it ceased due to the final scenario at hand.
5. I promise to make the reasoning public as soon as we can without adverse effects. The effect/spike on bitcoin is unrelated to the reasoning but related to other things.
6. Correct and correct.
7. I never said anything about an NDA or that I signed anything. Not sure where you pulled this out of.

Unlike TF who has also suffered a "major setback" I am still here and intend to do my best to correct for things.

I did not make this offer with the intentions of earning a %.

And no offense taken.

-Ukyo

I agree that Ukyo would be in a good position to do this.

I would agree that Ukyo is in a good position to do this. At least it wouldn't add another person to the chain of people that could lose our money.

Unfortunately, Ukyo has undergoing financial trouble of his own. Here is the case against him. I'm very sorry to have to air this information.
(1) He ran a site similar in functionality and size to TF's inputs.io. As of a few months ago, people were unable to withdraw their coins.
(2) Ukyo continued to allow deposits for more than a month, without posting a notice that they would not be able to withdraw.
(3) Ukyo confirmed that the bitcoins where there, but that the software was overloaded. (Spoiler: the coins were later reported "gone")
(4) Ukyo claimed he was manually processing withdrawals, and the depositors planned to announce when they had received their withdrawal. Nobody announced that they received a withdrawal following Ukyo's claim (until the recent 6% payout, which I'm very grateful for).
(5) Ukyo made several promises that he would be able to explain what happened (and that the news would cause a spike in the bitcoin price).
(6) Ukyo asked the NeoBee person (CryptoCyrpus) for help. CryptoCyrpus made several promises that they would be able to explain what happened with everyone's money. CryptoCyrpus finally reported that the bitcoins were "gone."
(7) Most recently, Ukyo claims he can't tell us what happened to our money because he signed an NDA. He apparently signed something that could get him in trouble if he told us what happened to the money we gave him.

I enumerated these by memory, so I might have made minor errors, but I think each point is evident from the public record.

I appreciate his offer to help, and there's a good chance that it might help us get our money back. Also, if he's willing to help, I'm happy to help redeem his reputation. And, there's a good chance that posting this might make him angry and refuse to help, and for that, I apologize. But fool me three times, shame on me :-)

On the other hand, it's pretty bad that Ukyo signed something saying that he can't tell us what happened to our money. I assume it's generally not sound business to trust someone with your money who has lost all of your money before.

Therefore, I'd prefer he transfers the assets to TAT (if he agrees, or pretty much anyone else) for him to liquidate. Transfering the AM-PT shares, at least, is as simple as sending FriedCat an email. I'd happily pay a % to TAT (and even to Ukyo, for helping) for this service.

I'm open to discussion, and like you, I hope this is resolved quickly.

[Rodyland]

I agree that Ukyo would be in a good position to do this.

I would agree that Ukyo is in a good position to do this. At least it wouldn't add another person to the chain of people that could lose our money.

Unfortunately, Ukyo has undergoing financial trouble of his own. Here is the case against him. I'm very sorry to have to air this information.

I too am concerned that allowing Ukyo to liquidate the funds is a bit like letting the fox guard the henhouse.  He hasn't disappeared, and he's paid out a whopping 6% of owed funds, and he claims he's working towards repaying everybody.  I have to say I have a bit of trouble taking his word for it, and this whole "I can't tell you what happened to your money without your money disappearing" bit seems just a bit too convenient of an excuse.  I look forward to publicly acknowledging that my fears were unfounded one day, but right now the only person I trust less than Ukyo is TradeFortress.

Maybe we should be looking for someone else to liquidate the assets that can be seized from BTCINVEST/TradeFortress.  Someone either truly trustworthy and impartial, or someone willing to put a significant surety in the hands of a trustworthy third party as insurance against going missing with the seized assets.

I know I'd be willing to pay a reasonable percentage of seized/liquidated assets as payment for service.

Any ideas how we'd go about making this happen?

[ahdinosaur]

Any G.AsicMiner-PT shares held by any of TF's known accounts are currently not claimable.
As far as what will be done with these shares, I do not know yet. Looking over the history of the shares they are in a very questionable state.
TF had multiple accounts. I will probably hand the shares to FriedCat to work it out because the AM asset needs to be wrapped up.

-Ukyo

Thank you for responding. I don't know how others feel, but I'd be happy with this as long as FriedCat is happy to pass the shares or their liquidated values to their rightful owners. An asset list already exists that could be used for this purpose (see below).

Has anyone else had any luck getting a response out of Friedcat?

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BTCINVEST    2    1A6Tc8YQHtxTXawnStCyYmuGU62DkK7mDu
BTCINVEST    114    1NRi3MXPoPJujKSdknoZPFNewsWp7qnHs
BTCINVEST    163    1FbyPbKCkzdU1rPQu5hy2U9ARFxxfCn1cn
BTCINVEST    27    1H2zB7hfnpFaEZLqM4TWZwJNX4n8NARJCB
BTCINVEST    15    1GV6wv4KRScURQt8tLMDcpxQXQexXSMUGn
BTCINVEST    10    1Ltn5upqLsVWDJ2L5RoUUqsUTdXDTzyRLS
BTCINVEST    40    15h3hJBUxwpKCb9r8tTnqHjgc48Jx4xoF9
BTCINVEST    10    1K681W8p3f93jk4Lkm4txijfctfUttgRG6
BTCINVEST    53    1J5bKg3AM3VRvYWJcVbUcxXkjeX4SEpXsG
BTCINVEST    290    12AF7WygbH6fnHeTB83FSZ5Fc1EkwBztpB
BTCINVEST    3    1FundR66BhKJwyLYMzJxBfgLwVCi2YeTgG
BTCINVEST    1    1AcTUAsexMkTAfEVVbXEHLczCjTM9McQpv
BTCINVEST    2    1KrxecCGj1PD458Lfd8xx54KmQm77tXzVA
BTCINVEST    20    18bamWWZy6FHhgckseiqpySfMVpESVHY2P
BTCINVEST    6    1JfScuh7gUtJ3AAR9xCWB6U9ie38wmsa4t
BTCINVEST    326    1AnJ1TRsuaEjT939nNKa5CgBQgHRHw5htc
BTCINVEST    22    13t7yBPPStby4qWbUyG4HimoLE97jNvfcG
BTCINVEST    10    19RzrNtbqPG3E4wgJvEMmS67m6up8hbdAd
BTCINVEST    37    15qG2hxZKjfCrtrd3Td8jkzPJm9Z7kF16a
BTCINVEST    3    1HaKNzqBXA44tV7k7TZRaAuHTfPb6LaXf8
BTCINVEST    2    1BRKNiLwD4keDtZ3hUkA51wGQMybdZ9GTf
BTCINVEST    3    17Uk6rCSNfSjybWw62cyuUsvZqRksYdeHF
BTCINVEST    91    133yWZHeRdS2hnqpZyv525kHoipAnnX6zb
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BTCINVEST    10    1AgaNdx1LqZUfxCheFYwEftTiRb7Zimk5r
BTCINVEST    114    1D5RXvLN92PyCnAjGfVhQaStKW2HEZwbGy
BTCINVEST    88    1JpWLrVjivNUC7o2oPNxHmTFsJ21Bn5y7z
BTCINVEST    4    Balance 1Dxg9ZazutpaNkS3Yu5NwMsBHuHTRPdkn
BTCINVEST    96    1Mn65Q9Xm6NBoPdF8ppS3AzgRLt92ZKtTq
BTCINVEST    5    1LCN6NyhTcNXpsmY1Lk7meQpQzU4yrGKY1
BTCINVEST    17    1DnTEW2wFcvR1myEpLLiV99VtMDP5G4966
BTCINVEST    27    18wYJaa7iWzwqK3u7nub7nNhU5zE8MpsJ6
BTCINVEST    2    1Bg1vTWVJedFM875rGqmAMnLnBjV6cPPtn
BTCINVEST    100    14KeZanmzhq5Nirx8zdt6SoD8rZDTAe9Hf
BTCINVEST    9    1FALKEDavPSA8phx9rZNYd3N32YdjWgn8A
BTCINVEST    73    16tyd2oq27dvkmpd2o5mtnUHfkg8cgnmuP
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BTCINVEST    10    12UgFRBT6cwVQEVnSFdxwPyugwEh1SbhaM
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BTCINVEST    31    1NASTYfxUpKPwin7b1KTBFjeeofrLSgXDJ
BTCINVEST    30    1HzPjHahdAJ9oHeHLBYaPgF6qGY99feaXc
BTCINVEST    2    1C8ZXfJaLharSPp78QKhhymvM1qhTMDN7C
BTCINVEST    1    1D1VGR4iRL4cSDH55kniKmYxxDkaxELnFx
BTCINVEST    22    1KLTbda7p9AT9oWKaZzVHmpyocNJzmtevc
BTCINVEST    15    19YuDb6QqhWugyC8LaGn99BSSPvMAs16FC
BTCINVEST    443    13NUbLVTYapTaidcAfi8JcFAzAZKgRfro5
BTCINVEST    50    1DNSK32DGETezPARGrbPWWYuqdFeiUP6aq
BTCINVEST    95    1FbDUyXvBaCD3Q1rEQ4rRXGFVQiTLuHcXe
BTCINVEST    10    15317SrqG2MNX3vi3MxWg8eS265puDEdFz
BTCINVEST    250    1PYoaicjzki47an2WzvUD2VjiqQnM4KT9T
BTCINVEST    7    1CCEBxW6bW3deEQjoiTuVxn3PKNTv24ngj
BTCINVEST    25    1NCkricmEkpwiBSkhVL5fN3oZXXNEPCUHo
BTCINVEST    2    1GcpQp2HPesydfxV3H3fyDXx3c7VKYo87c
BTCINVEST    4    15VimqfRFj6zEA44LABRmH3mr8JGuHQVX4
BTCINVEST    6    1HGAE4YdwASijNkSFQpvTt4UoyS6GngJQC
BTCINVEST    71    1DiczbPMvNmhXdEii1JZVafGiuBFitjd3K
BTCINVEST    31    1Qtec3kKtxxHhLevQhoZYFqzdQ2BtY5W8
BTCINVEST    4    1HWifA1NZerY5nbNk1eTdXpmkXBxryGgb1
BTCINVEST    3    1AbyfrvNyoEkyT993aPz3x4zajeXp188Wj
BTCINVEST    500    1Jw9zYYVngBLEU8dNJ1dq9ZJqkeUhRDQtd
BTCINVEST    130    15x6dVyAJSXeH897dJ3cgF7Wf7CekeZmgj
BTCINVEST    1    1LszQwcpyVsHAGaEu3KaTaTo6hp1VgqBCF
BTCINVEST    351    1btci44qRvsLtahoyqEfJXXKzhQAFT7Gp
BTCINVEST    4    188BJjcGy4pfXT7CpM6EdqPBnm3j2yfXLV
BTCINVEST    10    1E2KSF1vf5dqVwiaefo5eWPEz12tmg8NPt
BTCINVEST    1    1KVVW6upWu7yjkVq41tkMfUwrWdsE6cRMB

a problem with this asset list is that my 351 shares of BTCINVEST are listed under 1btci44qRvsLtahoyqEfJXXKzhQAFT7Gp, btcinvest's address who i transferred it to (after an email discussion with TradeFortress) in order to be sold. it doesn't help that i don't seem to have access to my original BitFunder address, but i've updated my BitFunder account and if Ukyo wishes he can verify that user 'dinosaur' transferred 351 BTCINVEST shares to user 'btcinvest' on 2013-10-09 at 18:40:19. it seems i'm stuck between a rock and a hard place if the only two people who can verify my shareholdings are TradeFortress and Ukyo.

[bbxx]

Any G.AsicMiner-PT shares held by any of TF's known accounts are currently not claimable.
As far as what will be done with these shares, I do not know yet. Looking over the history of the shares they are in a very questionable state.
TF had multiple accounts. I will probably hand the shares to FriedCat to work it out because the AM asset needs to be wrapped up.

-Ukyo

Thank you for responding. I don't know how others feel, but I'd be happy with this as long as FriedCat is happy to pass the shares or their liquidated values to their rightful owners. An asset list already exists that could be used for this purpose (see below).

Has anyone else had any luck getting a response out of Friedcat?

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BTCINVEST    70    18GHrFcJZX7PSmFTvEG1pnXkBkQG1oDBNw
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BTCINVEST    19    1CWFb8hkmEN75LupiizZ6XqwstFudsvkmx
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BTCINVEST    45    18oZMawnj4P8BmQmGMvhnwL63cLQs7c9fY
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BTCINVEST    99    1B5h6w9maneDApr2k8u739DzGhTHn7RK2B
BTCINVEST    33    1KRpmo3ksPidpgsFc6oqe628nHFhhPyk7R
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BTCINVEST    88    1JpWLrVjivNUC7o2oPNxHmTFsJ21Bn5y7z
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BTCINVEST    500    1Jw9zYYVngBLEU8dNJ1dq9ZJqkeUhRDQtd
BTCINVEST    130    15x6dVyAJSXeH897dJ3cgF7Wf7CekeZmgj
BTCINVEST    1    1LszQwcpyVsHAGaEu3KaTaTo6hp1VgqBCF
BTCINVEST    351    1btci44qRvsLtahoyqEfJXXKzhQAFT7Gp
BTCINVEST    4    188BJjcGy4pfXT7CpM6EdqPBnm3j2yfXLV
BTCINVEST    10    1E2KSF1vf5dqVwiaefo5eWPEz12tmg8NPt
BTCINVEST    1    1KVVW6upWu7yjkVq41tkMfUwrWdsE6cRMB

a problem with this asset list is that my 351 shares of BTCINVEST are listed under 1btci44qRvsLtahoyqEfJXXKzhQAFT7Gp, btcinvest's address who i transferred it to (after an email discussion with TradeFortress) in order to be sold. it doesn't help that i don't seem to have access to my original BitFunder address, but i've updated my BitFunder account and if Ukyo wishes he can verify that user 'dinosaur' transferred 351 BTCINVEST shares to user 'btcinvest' on 2013-10-09 at 18:40:19. it seems i'm stuck between a rock and a hard place if the only two people who can verify my shareholdings are TradeFortress and Ukyo.

the problem is i am not on the list.
i had 6 shares. i have transferred them to coinlenders but it i got nothing.
my address is 1bbxx....

sad story.


Assets Transfered to Issuers
Asset    Amount
BTCINVEST    6

[Ukyo]

the problem is i am not on the list.
i had 6 shares. i have transferred them to coinlenders but it i got nothing.
my address is 1bbxx....

sad story.


Assets Transfered to Issuers
Asset    Amount
BTCINVEST    6

I would be able to make a more accurate list reversing transfers to TF.
Everyone seems to be in agreement that he paid out nothing to anyone.

-Ukyo

[gotpetum]

I would be able to make a more accurate list reversing transfers to TF.
Everyone seems to be in agreement that he paid out nothing to anyone.

-Ukyo

Not true, at least B15K3 got paid.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135157.msg3945606#msg3945606