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April 19, 2016, 06:26:36 AM
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Hmm, looks like my machine with the triple GTX950s aren't so bad after all on Ethereum.

 Only about 10MH/s per card but each card is eating LESS than 100 watts - looked at them with GPU-Z today and they're around 75% of TDP (TDP is only about 110 watts for these cards as I recall) - and even though the entire machine is FAR from optimal for mining (the A10-7860K is TDP 65 watts by itself but I suspect the way I'm pushing the GPU for RC5 work it's pulling more like 80-90 PLUS the motherboard and HDs) it's still only eating about 350 TOTAL watts when mining.


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 I can use that machine for other things, but forget trying to game on it while mining, TOO much other stuff going on. It DOES work for web browsing, though, with some noticeable but not horrible delays loading pages/updating.

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April 19, 2016, 08:36:04 AM
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After 2 months of posting this, the 280X still seems like a much better alternative to the S7, even though the S7 is about $500 now instead of $800.

The 280X makes only 70% from what it made back in Feb 10th, so I guess after the huge pump and huge difficulty increase, its still pretty impressive.


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April 19, 2016, 05:51:15 PM
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After 2 months of posting this, the 280X still seems like a much better alternative to the S7, even though the S7 is about $500 now instead of $800.

The 280X makes only 70% from what it made back in Feb 10th, so I guess after the huge pump and huge difficulty increase, its still pretty impressive.


It was good already having some 280x and buying some 7950/280x or such at 140~, but now i been buying strictly retail low TDP cards, with better W/MH than Nvidia and r9 2XX AND much much better MH/$ than Nvidia, though not as good as used GPUs (i guess, but who knows people are still buying like crazy even when retail would be betteR).

I'm disappointed that Nvidia have no place in Ethereum, the prices of 970 just doesnt meet the performance. But once you move away from Eth, maybe you can go to a coin that is OpenCUDA friendly?


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April 19, 2016, 06:27:06 PM
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After 2 months of posting this, the 280X still seems like a much better alternative to the S7, even though the S7 is about $500 now instead of $800.

The 280X makes only 70% from what it made back in Feb 10th, so I guess after the huge pump and huge difficulty increase, its still pretty impressive.


The thing that scares me is people chase profit who make asic chips.  There were X11's being ran that we did not know about when the asics were made, due to keeping them private.   Now you can buy an asic that does X11 due to them being used and they already made money back selling is just a bonus.

I think if ETH remains profitable you can count on someone trying to make asic chips for it.  How long it takes.. and if it remains private we will not know.  But I hate that possibility of dropping money on GPU and an asic can come out and blow it away.
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April 19, 2016, 06:35:46 PM
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After 2 months of posting this, the 280X still seems like a much better alternative to the S7, even though the S7 is about $500 now instead of $800.

The 280X makes only 70% from what it made back in Feb 10th, so I guess after the huge pump and huge difficulty increase, its still pretty impressive.


The thing that scares me is people chase profit who make asic chips.  There were X11's being ran that we did not know about when the asics were made, due to keeping them private.   Now you can buy an asic that does X11 due to them being used and they already made money back selling is just a bonus.

I think if ETH remains profitable you can count on someone trying to make asic chips for it.  How long it takes.. and if it remains private we will not know.  But I hate that possibility of dropping money on GPU and an asic can come out and blow it away.

It should be Okay, ETH is planned to go to PoS SoonTM. If you care for the value of Eth anyways. For continuing mining, though, tough luck. But thats where GPUs shine.


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April 19, 2016, 11:11:09 PM
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After 2 months of posting this, the 280X still seems like a much better alternative to the S7, even though the S7 is about $500 now instead of $800.

The 280X makes only 70% from what it made back in Feb 10th, so I guess after the huge pump and huge difficulty increase, its still pretty impressive.


The thing that scares me is people chase profit who make asic chips.  There were X11's being ran that we did not know about when the asics were made, due to keeping them private.   Now you can buy an asic that does X11 due to them being used and they already made money back selling is just a bonus.

I think if ETH remains profitable you can count on someone trying to make asic chips for it.  How long it takes.. and if it remains private we will not know.  But I hate that possibility of dropping money on GPU and an asic can come out and blow it away.

It should be Okay, ETH is planned to go to PoS SoonTM. If you care for the value of Eth anyways. For continuing mining, though, tough luck. But thats where GPUs shine.


I am now running 150 mh

How long before we go to pos.



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April 20, 2016, 01:52:02 AM
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After 2 months of posting this, the 280X still seems like a much better alternative to the S7, even though the S7 is about $500 now instead of $800.

The 280X makes only 70% from what it made back in Feb 10th, so I guess after the huge pump and huge difficulty increase, its still pretty impressive.


The thing that scares me is people chase profit who make asic chips.  There were X11's being ran that we did not know about when the asics were made, due to keeping them private.   Now you can buy an asic that does X11 due to them being used and they already made money back selling is just a bonus.

I think if ETH remains profitable you can count on someone trying to make asic chips for it.  How long it takes.. and if it remains private we will not know.  But I hate that possibility of dropping money on GPU and an asic can come out and blow it away.

It should be Okay, ETH is planned to go to PoS SoonTM. If you care for the value of Eth anyways. For continuing mining, though, tough luck. But thats where GPUs shine.


I am now running 150 mh

How long before we go to pos.




I guess in several months we might know better. Not before Q4 is my guess. So long enough that you dont need to worry about it at current profitability. But soon enough that ASICs probably won't hit. Also the cost of making ASIC using a DAG would probably be expensive, and doing it without a DAG would probably mean very very low performance.

So i'm not worried. Worse case scenario, Switch GPU to something else. ETH is no longer the "drop everything and mine that" currency. It's still good but private miners do better, now.


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April 20, 2016, 05:07:03 AM
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I guess in several months we might know better. Not before Q4 is my guess. So long enough that you dont need to worry about it at current profitability. But soon enough that ASICs probably won't hit. Also the cost of making ASIC using a DAG would probably be expensive, and doing it without a DAG would probably mean very very low performance.

So i'm not worried. Worse case scenario, Switch GPU to something else. ETH is no longer the "drop everything and mine that" currency. It's still good but private miners do better, now.

So I take it from your comments that you aren't trying to hold/save the bulk of the Etherum that you mine? If that's true, what do you exchange it for?
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I guess in several months we might know better. Not before Q4 is my guess. So long enough that you dont need to worry about it at current profitability. But soon enough that ASICs probably won't hit. Also the cost of making ASIC using a DAG would probably be expensive, and doing it without a DAG would probably mean very very low performance.

So i'm not worried. Worse case scenario, Switch GPU to something else. ETH is no longer the "drop everything and mine that" currency. It's still good but private miners do better, now.

So I take it from your comments that you aren't trying to hold/save the bulk of the Etherum that you mine? If that's true, what do you exchange it for?

Split between savings and more hardware. Holding is money wasted imo. Unless you get lucky and the price explode, anyways.


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April 20, 2016, 05:42:07 AM
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After 2 months of posting this, the 280X still seems like a much better alternative to the S7, even though the S7 is about $500 now instead of $800.

The 280X makes only 70% from what it made back in Feb 10th, so I guess after the huge pump and huge difficulty increase, its still pretty impressive.


The thing that scares me is people chase profit who make asic chips.  There were X11's being ran that we did not know about when the asics were made, due to keeping them private.   Now you can buy an asic that does X11 due to them being used and they already made money back selling is just a bonus.

I think if ETH remains profitable you can count on someone trying to make asic chips for it.  How long it takes.. and if it remains private we will not know.  But I hate that possibility of dropping money on GPU and an asic can come out and blow it away.

It should be Okay, ETH is planned to go to PoS SoonTM. If you care for the value of Eth anyways. For continuing mining, though, tough luck. But thats where GPUs shine.


I am now running 150 mh

How long before we go to pos.




at the end of this year, or early next years, still many months ahead
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