Removal of escrow.ms? Update: Recommend users for DT 2, as escrow.ms is removed

[Heutenamos]

Currently this thread is here for recommending people "eligible" for DT 2

OK, then I recommend mexxer-2 for DT-2  & also edit the subject maybe ?

[Indianacoin]

I do not think this is the right way to elevate trust point just by adding another member to DT1.
It would have been better if theymos removed escrow.ms only and added the names under his trust list back to the previous DT manually wihout adding Blazed.

I am not showing any disrespect towards Blazed but I feel that he should remain in the position as was before.

[mexxer-2]

It would have been better if theymos removed escrow.ms only and added the names under his trust list back to the previous DT manually wihout adding Blazed.

I am not showing any disrespect towards Blazed but I feel that he should remain in the position as was before.

That is not a good idea, why should theymos add certain people who he has never traded with or trusts, to his trust list? At any rate most of those individuals were mostly added because they did a few early trades with escrow.ms , he once even added a person who he had done a small ~$20 trade with.

A third person however, that too , one who (I estimate) has done the most trades, and has the highest(had before escrow.ms was taken down from DT, Ognasty holds the 2nd position because his trust list includes people who he has traded with, and has gotten feedbacks from), would be suitable for a replacement to add new individuals to the DT while considering if some of the old DT members, do deserve it.

Edit: Once again, recommendations:

Cool, well my suggestions:
1) Cyrus: Active moderator, long time member, quite active in(Edit: Detecting, lol) suspicious activity
2) devthedev: Was a DT 2 member before CITM took the hit, long time escrow, member and trustworthy person.

The other guys on escrow.ms list... don't think they actually deserved it, seems most of them got the position because of a few early escrow/deals.

Edit: And congrats on getting back your 300+ rating  

[Joel_Jantsen]

I think mexxer-2 would be a suitable fit for a DT.There are a number of reasons I could list out but to mention a few he's available most of the time and quite responsive with messages and everything.He knows stuff about the forum and is good at pointing out likely scams.

Cool, well my suggestions:
1) Cyrus: Active moderator, long time member, quite active in(Edit: Detecting, lol) suspicious activity
2) devthedev: Was a DT 2 member before CITM took the hit, long time escrow, member and trustworthy person.

The other guys on escrow.ms list... don't think they actually deserved it, seems most of them got the position because of a few early escrow/deals.

Edit: And congrats on getting back your 300+ rating  

[Indianacoin]

That is not a good idea, why should theymos add certain people who he has never traded with or trusts, to his trust list? At any rate most of those individuals were mostly added because they did a few early trades with escrow.ms , he once even added a person who he had done a small ~$20 trade with.

Then its better not to add anyone at all an leave it as it is.
I think there will be no physical harm to have lower trust points.

Although an exceptional situation happened, the ones under his trust list should try and win their places back from scratch.

Also I think its better to add Cyrus and John K. on DT1 (not devthedev, since I am speculative about him)

[mexxer-2]

Then its better not to add anyone at all an leave it as it is.

If people said the same when Shorena, Ecuamobi, Vod and others were going to be added, how would they know how helpful they would be in the future. Change of this type is not counter-intuitive I believe.

Also I think its better to add Cyrus and John K. on DT1 (not devthedev, since I am speculative about him)

Not talking about DT 1 here, I'm recommending members for Blazed's trust list as he asked for before.

Edit: Can we take the discussion of whether Blazed should or should not be added to another thread or PMs if you want to have a conversation with me, getting quite tired of bringing this post back from the dead

Cool, well my suggestions:
1) Cyrus: Active moderator, long time member, quite active in(Edit: Detecting, lol) suspicious activity
2) devthedev: Was a DT 2 member before CITM took the hit, long time escrow, member and trustworthy person.

The other guys on escrow.ms list... don't think they actually deserved it, seems most of them got the position because of a few early escrow/deals.

Edit: And congrats on getting back your 300+ rating  

[theymos]

I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.

what relation does DT has over person's trust or character ? I am not trusting(if i were to) you because you are level 1 or level 500 but because of the past experience.If a user never did a runner with 200 btc in hand then it pretty much defines his personality.

It's a common misconception that one's trust list is a list of people who you extra-special-trust. Really it's a list of people who you believe have given accurate ratings and will continue to do so -- it's not necessary to actually trust them all that much otherwise. And likewise, if someone is very trustworthy but never leaves trust ratings, then it's somewhat pointless to add them to your trust list.

A lot of people are using the term "DT" in a confusing way... I wrote a vocabulary post about this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=891261.0

[mexxer-2]

I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.

So is Blazed only a temporary replacement?

[theymos]

So is Blazed only a temporary replacement?

No. There isn't a fixed number of seats in the default trust list or anything.

[Heutenamos]

I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense.

This is what i was shouting but it looks like many legendary and highly trusted users have childish mentalities and get to conclusion just by reading a bunch of articles.

Really it's a list of people who you believe have given accurate ratings and will continue to do so

Tell me who in Blazed list is going to do that ? he himself said this

The people in my network I have trusted with coins and had no issues.

And likewise, if someone is very trustworthy but never leaves trust ratings, then it's somewhat pointless to add them to your trust list.

yes that is what i said in the previews post.CONTRIBUTION.

many of them don't even post a couple times a week but you still think they should be on DT.

ssateneth & BigBitz have stopped posting since months,dazedfool nothing other than coin trades.

You and many others are using "DT" in a confusing way...

why me after reading it all ?

[Indianacoin]

I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.

I would like you to read this article at least since I believe you trust Benson Samuel and he is the CEO of Coinsecure, not a government concerned company either.

As far as I know the news is quite genuine.

[Joel_Jantsen]

I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.

I would like you to read this article at least since I believe you trust Benson Samuel and he is the CEO of Coinsecure, not a government concerned company either.

As far as I know the news is quite genuine.

The news is obviously genuine because escrow.ms was the only trader at Localbitcoins who was available online 24/7 and since the day he got arrested he hasn't been online and his account is flagged red by localbitcoins as well. 

[Mickeyb]

I would like you to read this article at least since I believe you trust Benson Samuel and he is the CEO of Coinsecure, not a government concerned company either.

As far as I know the news is quite genuine.

I think what theymos is saying is, the article doesn't specify whether escrow.ms willing did this or was forced into doing it. Maybe he was forced to confess, who knows.
As for coinsecure they removed him, because they didn't want any of the dirt splattered onto themselves, be it a mistaken one.

Also, he didn't scam anyone on here.

[deadley]

I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.

I would like you to read this article at least since I believe you trust Benson Samuel and he is the CEO of Coinsecure, not a government concerned company either.

As far as I know the news is quite genuine.

lol, it's normal procedure for every company if someone got arrested first they try to clear their name.

If he come back  non guilty for this they will add him back and if not so they will say we already removed him.

[zazarb]

I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.

I would like you to read this article at least since I believe you trust Benson Samuel and he is the CEO of Coinsecure, not a government concerned company either.

As far as I know the news is quite genuine.

lol, it's normal procedure for every company if someone got arrested first they try to clear their name.

If he come back  non guilty for this they will add him back and if not so they will say we already removed him.

You all have forgotten
Presumption of innocence  principle, that one is considered innocent unless proven guilty.

[Heutenamos]

One of the DT member should add all the negatives given by him to others or else many scammers might be neutral again if .MS is removed.

[mexxer-2]

One of the DT member should add all the negatives given by him to others or else many scammers might be neutral again if .MS is removed.

He is still on DT 2 and many of his ratings are vague as to why someone was given a neg and doesn't generally include a reference

[deadley]

I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.

I would like you to read this article at least since I believe you trust Benson Samuel and he is the CEO of Coinsecure, not a government concerned company either.

As far as I know the news is quite genuine.

lol, it's normal procedure for every company if someone got arrested first they try to clear their name.

If he come back  non guilty for this they will add him back and if not so they will say we already removed him.

You all have forgotten
Presumption of innocence  principle, that one is considered innocent unless proven guilty.

True, but these time people are in so hurry to decide if he got arrested means he is surely guilty.

I know how Indian/Delhi police work they are famous to put charges easily on someone, Courts many times shouted on them why they charges so hurrily.

[Heutenamos]

other then just quotes,pretty much 100% of whatever we/you hear/see bout global problems and stuff, is bullshit and lies within lies.

@deadley,it's similar all around the globe.What do you expect from them when they get an option to make 40-50 millions by just setting up guy with no mafia background and none other not brain washed people to back-up.

I am pretty much sure that .MS wouldn't go that far for just 100 coins deal,also the amount of cash and all those figures are just plain lies.


Though pepole are dying to quote theymos,the old man is an Influencer

[Blazed]

Deserve means they have proven themselves here and are responsible with holding coins

That is not deserving

actively contribute here in ither ways.

Yes.CONTRIBUTION is the criteria for someone to be in the deserving category not personal trades or big score.

Why would I need more positive feedback from anyone?

why would you add all of them who can increase your rating then ? none of the users in your list is someone who haven't left you a rating & many of them don't even post a couple times a week but you still think they should be on DT.

ssateneth & BigBitz have stopped posting since months,dazedfool nothing other than coin trades.

The people in my network I have trusted with coins and had no issues.

what relation does DT has over person's trust or character ? I am not trusting(if i were to) you because you are level 1 or level 500 but because of the past experience.If a user never did a runner with 200 btc in hand then it pretty much defines his personality.

I would also trust TECSHARE with some typical escrow deal but he is not on DT.
SebastianJu,Shorena,ecuamobi,Vod,M.zakir have never done any coin trades but that doesn't changes the fact that they are pretty active scam busting artists and have saved hundreds of people from scams.It helps the community significantly and also elucidates the meaning of DT.

You are leaving a +rating for the smooth trade & which in turn shows their reputation but that doesn't means they should be on DT ? or if that is how you think then i can start taking interest in coins from now and do a couple of coin trades and also throw some huge tips on you to get a position in your network like the other senior guy i mentioned above , isn't it abusable or at least a questionable idea/judgment ?

Rassah holds 750 btc here 1HQ8WaKVRYXLBtVdMcYr5SHQ3X9BsLyxa1 but theymos didn't added him to DT ? he might still be a reputed one though.

I see your point. Those are people I have trusted with a lot of coins in the past, but they do not add much to the network. This is why I posted about watching my list...I will take a better look at it.