Reddit co-founder Aaron Swartz commits suicide

[Rob E]

So what was he actually stealing ( in detail ). I read it was " sensitive journals " What the fk does that mean . Was it " national security" where thousands set to die if released? Wt fuck was the punishment so harsh? Wt fuck did he do?

Some journals that were published by a government website, that just made these journals available online to public. JSTOR (the gov website) told the investigators to drop charges.. but they didn't.

Ok so is this like stealing books out of a library.?

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[Rob E]

Wait wait so they wanted to send him to jail over stealing " Journals" that were publicly available. And perhaps million in fines.  MF lobal ceo  John Corzine went in to segregated accounts and stole 1.4 billion.

He can walk.
He paid Not hi ng .
N o  th iNgg.

[elux]

Ok so is this like stealing books out of a library.?

Politico: Copyright protection bill foe charged in data theft
By JENNIFER MARTINEZ | 7/19/11 4:09 PM EDT

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Demand Progress, the nonprofit political organization Swartz founded, is among the loudest opponents of the PROTECT IP Act, also known as PIPA, which is aimed at wiping out online copyright infringement.

Swartz also co-founded the social online news service Reddit. Demand Progress contends the charges against Swartz are unfounded and “bizarre.”

"This makes no sense," said David Segal, the group’s executive director. "It's like trying to put someone in jail for allegedly checking too many books out of the library."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59397.html#ixzz2HxM6BVc6

[BlackBison]

So what was he actually stealing ( in detail ). I read it was " sensitive journals " What the fk does that mean . Was it " national security" where thousands set to die if released? Wt fuck was the punishment so harsh? Wt fuck did he do?

Some journals that were published by a government website, that just made these journals available online to public. JSTOR (the gov website) told the investigators to drop charges.. but they didn't.

Ok so is this like stealing books out of a library.?

No its like taking out 10000 books per week out of the library using different names etc when the limit is supposed to be say 10 per week per person.

Its hardly the crime of the century.

[darkmule]

No its like taking out 10000 books per week out of the library using different names etc when the limit is supposed to be say 10 per week per person.

Its hardly the crime of the century.

These are the same journals that the "victim" of the "crime" later agreed with the "thief" that they should be more publicly available.  Good move on their part.  JSTOR now has a program where you can access these same journals for free. 

Just so you can understand exactly how stupid this prosecution was, and why the "victim" did not want the "perpetrator" prosecuted.  Swartz went about this the wrong way, obviously, but he wasn't malicious and there was nothing worthy of the name "crime" here, much less something to hound a guy to death over.

[Third Way]

I'm actually glad that some people are calling for the prosecutor's head in this case, that overzealous woman was doing it to make a name for herself, why else pursue this kid as if he was some incarnation of the devil, as some have already pointed out, many times, and quite often, murderers and rapists would get a lot less jail time.

Hell, a murderer after being releasedfrom jail, can get a federal fafsa support to pay for college, but a poor kid who ended up in jail for being caught with a little weed? Shit outta luck, should've abused alcohol instead, hell, if you go to jail for drug use/abuse you can't get a bank loan to buy  ahouse or rent an apartment, meanwhile a murderer could.

It's a sick sad world we live in.

[Herodes]

I'm actually glad that some people are calling for the prosecutor's head in this case, that overzealous woman was doing it to make a name for herself, why else pursue this kid as if he was some incarnation of the devil, as some have already pointed out, many times, and quite often, murderers and rapists would get a lot less jail time.

There's never any consequences for an overzealous prosecutor. They're above the law, so also in this case, that's why they wreck people's life for a hobby, live in nice houses, have hefty paychecks, and have no material concerns in their lifes whatsoever. Sell your soul to the devil, and create a better society!!!

[Mr. Coinman]

We lost a truly bright and progressive young man Friday.  

At 14 he co-authored the RSS protocol, then later on developed web.py, worked on Creative Commons, Demand Progress, and Reddit.

The charges brought against him were no doubt excessive.

[myrkul]

The charges brought against him were no doubt excessive.

That's like saying the surface of the sun is "a little hot."

[Herodes]

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-united-states-district-attorney-carmen-ortiz-office-overreach-case-aaron-swartz/RQNrG1Ck

[TheButterZone]

She'll probably get a promotion. That petitions site is masturbatory material for the tyrannical government. "We're doing a 'bad job' or 'the wrong thing'? Fuck yeah we are, fuck you sheep!" /fapfapfap

[iCEBREAKER]

The charges brought against him were no doubt excessive.

Ortiz is both the first woman and the first Hispanic to serve as U.S. attorney for Massachusetts.
She was nominated to the position by President Barack Obama.

US Atty. Carmen Ortiz:  Another race and gender-based affirmative action baby, promptly promoted to her level of incompetence on the basis of having a vagina and a Spanish last name.

Besides the opportunity taken from the people who deserved the spot she wasted at GWU's law school and a cushy job with the gov't, her idiocy has now taken a life.

Aaron Swartz, Carmen Ortiz and the American System of Justice
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-kennedy/aaron-swartz-carmen-ortiz_b_2469050.html

Ortiz's vindictiveness toward Swartz may have seemed shocking given that even the victim of Swartz's alleged offense -- the academic publisher JSTOR -- did not wish to press charges. But it was no surprise to those of us who have been observing Ortiz's official conduct as the top federal prosecutor in Boston.

Last July I singled out Ortiz as the lead villain in the 2012 Muzzle Awards, an annual feature I've been writing for the Phoenix newspapers of Boston, Providence and Portland since 1998. The reason: her prosecution of Tarek Mehanna, a Boston-area pharmacist who had acted as a propagandist for al-Qaeda.

Mehanna was sentenced to prison for 17 years -- not because of what he did, but because of what he said, wrote and translated.

[myrkul]

Besides the opportunity taken from the people who deserved the spot she wasted at GWU's law school and a cushy job with the gov't, her idiocy has now taken a life.

The same could have been said if Aaron had been convicted and sentenced with the full 50 years.

[Herodes]

Not sure how old she is, but it seems like that a problem with many older (45+) politicians and officials is that they do not understand technology and the internet. She apparently said this:

"Stealing is stealing whether you use a computer command or a crowbar, and whether you take documents, data or dollars."

I wonder if she really said this, if she did, then she's not very well educated in regards to the internet and technology.

If you steal someones stash of 10K USD in their house, that's theft, and the owner of those bills just lost a lot of money. If someone stores files on a computer network, and gives public access to these files, and someone downloads them, the provider still has the files, and the files are now copied. So copying is not the same as theft. If someone steals your car, your flat-screen TV or your laptop, that's theft, if someone copies a music album, a book or some other digital stuff, that's copying and not theft. It may qualify as illegall acess of sorts, for instance breaking into a company network to get files you're not supposed to access.

I also see that her spokeswoman stated:

Ortiz's office declined to comment for this story. "We want to respect the privacy of the family and do not feel it is appropriate to comment on the case at this time," said Ortiz spokeswoman Christina Sterling.

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/14/aaron-swartz-carmen-ortiz_n_2472146.html

So what they're basically saying: Ortiz is a coward, she needs to hide behind 'spokespersons'. Why can't she speak for herself, like every normal person does ? Esp. in such an important case as this. I would not consider not speaking about this case to be respectful, I actually interpret it as outright contempt. The only thing she should really do was to resign from her position and say that she's eternally sorry for what she's done.

What the spokesperson really is saying is that they're under a lot of heat right now, and they just want time to do it's thing so that it all will cool off.

[Third Way]

The charges brought against him were no doubt excessive.

Ortiz is both the first woman and the first Hispanic to serve as U.S. attorney for Massachusetts.
She was nominated to the position by President Barack Obama.

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ortiz, me cago en tu madre si eres de pr y mil y una putas veces mas aunque no lo seas

[Mr. Coinman]

Not sure how old she is, but it seems like that a problem with many older (45+) politicians and officials is that they do not understand technology and the internet. She apparently said this:

"Stealing is stealing whether you use a computer command or a crowbar, and whether you take documents, data or dollars."

I wonder if she really said this, if she did, then she's not very well educated in regards to the internet and technology.

If you steal someones stash of 10K USD in their house, that's theft, and the owner of those bills just lost a lot of money. If someone stores files on a computer network, and gives public access to these files, and someone downloads them, the provider still has the files, and the files are now copied. So copying is not the same as theft. If someone steals your car, your flat-screen TV or your laptop, that's theft, if someone copies a music album, a book or some other digital stuff, that's copying and not theft. It may qualify as illegall acess of sorts, for instance breaking into a company network to get files you're not supposed to access.

I also see that her spokeswoman stated:

Ortiz's office declined to comment for this story. "We want to respect the privacy of the family and do not feel it is appropriate to comment on the case at this time," said Ortiz spokeswoman Christina Sterling.

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/14/aaron-swartz-carmen-ortiz_n_2472146.html

So what they're basically saying: Ortiz is a coward, she needs to hide behind 'spokespersons'. Why can't she speak for herself, like every normal person does ? Esp. in such an important case as this. I would not consider not speaking about this case to be respectful, I actually interpret it as outright contempt. The only thing she should really do was to resign from her position and say that she's eternally sorry for what she's done.

What the spokesperson really is saying is that they're under a lot of heat right now, and they just want time to do it's thing so that it all will cool off.

Unfortunately this technology illiteracy is present in officials such as Congressman Lamar S. Smith (sponsor of SOPA) and many others. If only we could have educated and knowledgable representatives working for us, rather than these naive, ignorant slimeballs runnings things in DC.

[Third Way]

Well Mr Coinman, the more seclustered a government administration is, the more out of touch it will be with the realities of modern times.

Especially when each and every congressperson is worth minimum hundreds of thousands of dollars.

These people should not have wages.

[bbit]

good luck ortiz is mexican   off-limits in other words....

[lebing]

good luck ortiz is mexican   off-limits in other words....

ordinarily maybe, but not this time. she is barely able to breathe with all the shit surrounding her right now

[iCEBREAKER]

good luck ortiz is mexican   off-limits in other words....

I wish Ortiz was Mexican, so she'd be their problem instead of infecting our country.  But she is 100% our citizen, and absolutely emblematic of Obama's Brave New America.

OTOH, I don't think Anon will forget...or forgive.   

Mit.edu was pwnd yesterday!

Anonymous Appears To Have Hacked MIT Website, Leaves Swartz Tribute
http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/13/anonymous-appears-to-have-hacked-mit-website-leaves-swartz-tribute/

MIT.edu Currently Down Following Investigation Into Swartz Tragedy
http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/13/mit-edu-doj-gov-w3-gov-all-currently-down-following-investigation-into-swartz-tragedy/