How about Vanilla coin

[YAdaminer]

Just to conclude my last post, cause when I wrote it, it was really late, so late that it was really to early to write anything more, I'll add this.
As usually I really don't care what others think cause I have brain and with 45 years on my shoulders I know how to do my researches I know that people are looking for advices from someone who they trust and while it's not really important who I am, cause in Crypto I'm no one but average Joe, I think that all who are in crypto and were mining some coin know ocminer / https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=43526 the guy who runs suprnova.cc pools, the fixer, guy who deals with all kinds of shit that can happen during the mining day.
So, here is what he say about john-connor

I've been coding the RPC side of the coin with John "on-the-fly" in IRC .. I was coding the pools side, while he integrated the calls into the daemon.

We did that over several hours/days and also latter anti-ddos mechanisms and other stuff were/was integrated while "talking" in IRC to each other, he's certainly no "copy&paste" coder like many, many others, I can vouch for his skills, I've worked with him together several times already, he knows what he's doing.

Also for all those who are in doubts regarding xmr shills and why they attack Vanilla so much here is some interesting reading, IDK if anything from that thread is right, but as I said it's interesting to read.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1272304.msg13866366#msg13866366

[generalizethis]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1272304.msg13866366#msg13866366

You're an imbecile if you read sputz interpretation and believe it. David Latapie was conned out of money when he was starting a company and sputz attempted to turn David's apology for being scammed into some admittance of fraud. The man was embarrassed and BCT's resident troll turned it into a dumb-down version of spin city, but I'm sure if you would have read through the posts, you could have figured that out for yourself. I hope you don't have this lackadaisical attitude when it comes to researching your investments..

[YAdaminer]

Also for all those who are in doubts regarding xmr shills and why they attack Vanilla so much here is some interesting reading, IDK if anything from that thread is right, but as I said it's interesting to read.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1272304.msg13866366#msg13866366

You're an imbecile if you read sputz interpretation and believe it. David Latapie was conned out of money when he was starting a company and sputz attempted to turn David's apology for being scammed into some admittance of fraud. The man was embarrassed and BCT's resident troll turned it into a dumb-down version of spin city, but I'm sure if you would have read through the posts, you could have figured that out for yourself. I hope you don't have this lackadaisical attitude when it comes to researching your investments..

You xmr guys really have problem with understanding of what is written. I said nothing, I left for reader to make conclusion.
It seems that new definition for word imbecile is 'the one who can read, understand what is written and make conclusion'.
By that definition it seems you are not the one.

[generalizethis]

Also for all those who are in doubts regarding xmr shills and why they attack Vanilla so much here is some interesting reading, IDK if anything from that thread is right, but as I said it's interesting to read.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1272304.msg13866366#msg13866366

You're an imbecile if you read sputz interpretation and believe it. David Latapie was conned out of money when he was starting a company and sputz attempted to turn David's apology for being scammed into some admittance of fraud. The man was embarrassed and BCT's resident troll turned it into a dumb-down version of spin city, but I'm sure if you would have read through the posts, you could have figured that out for yourself. I hope you don't have this lackadaisical attitude when it comes to researching your investments..

You xmr guys really have problem with understanding of what is written. I said nothing, I left for reader to make conclusion.
It seems that new definition for word imbecile is 'the one who can read, understand what is written and make conclusion'.
By that definition it seems you are not the one.

You made an implication based on Sputz post, which would naturally be filled in negatively since you are also playing the"I don't know if this is true, but...." card. I would call anyone who uses this type of tactic an imbecile (or do you really think people here are too stupid to realize the cheap ploy you used? So I'm going to say you are an imbecile or you think everyone else is an imbecile. Either way you look like an ass.

[YAdaminer]

Also for all those who are in doubts regarding xmr shills and why they attack Vanilla so much here is some interesting reading, IDK if anything from that thread is right, but as I said it's interesting to read.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1272304.msg13866366#msg13866366

You're an imbecile if you read sputz interpretation and believe it. David Latapie was conned out of money when he was starting a company and sputz attempted to turn David's apology for being scammed into some admittance of fraud. The man was embarrassed and BCT's resident troll turned it into a dumb-down version of spin city, but I'm sure if you would have read through the posts, you could have figured that out for yourself. I hope you don't have this lackadaisical attitude when it comes to researching your investments..

You xmr guys really have problem with understanding of what is written. I said nothing, I left for reader to make conclusion.
It seems that new definition for word imbecile is 'the one who can read, understand what is written and make conclusion'.
By that definition it seems you are not the one.

You made an implication based on Sputz post, which would naturally be filled in negatively since you are also playing the"I don't know if this is true, but...." card. I would call anyone who uses this type of tactic an imbecile (or do you really think people here are too stupid to realize the cheap ploy you used? So I'm going to say you are an imbecile or you think everyone else is an imbecile. Either way you look like an ass.

Thank you, when that comes from you it's almost like compliment.

[TPTB_need_war]

Oh great so the mod removed all the evidence where john-conner was calling me a scammer because he claimed my illness was faked. And then I challenged John to a bet on that and John never replied. Even another user who I don't know had commented that John's post was despicable but the mod deleted his post as well. Sure seems the mod is confused or is a VNL supporter (I assume the former).

So the mods think they are helping to spread the truth when they delete evidence  

I asked the mods to deal with the tit-for-tat attacks on my person which are irrelevant to the facts I presented about Zerotime and Chainblender which haven't been rebutted.

Instead of deleting those, they deleted the evidence that incriminates John.  

Basically the situation is I presented my analysis of Zerotime and Chainblender upthread, then instead of replying on those points, the VNL shills pursued an attack on my person instead. Because they are unwilling to discuss the facts. My person is irrelevant to the facts about VNL. They think that by slandering my person, they can cause readers to think that my analysis of the facts is wrong, without ever presenting an actual rebuttal on the facts.

[generalizethis]

Oh great so the mod removed all the evidence where john-conner was calling me a scammer because he claimed my illness was faked. And then I challenged him to a bet on that and John never replied. Even another user who I don't know had commented that John's post was despicable but the mod deleted his post as well. Sure seems the mod is confused or is a VNL supporter (I assume the former).

So the mods think they are helping to spread the truth when they delete evidence  

I asked the mods to deal with the tit-for-tat attacks on my person which are irrelevant to the facts I presented about Zerotime and Chainblender which haven't been rebutted.

Instead of deleting those, they deleted the evidence that incriminates John.  

Basically the situation is I presented my analysis of Zerotime and Chainblender upthread, then instead of replying on those points, the VNL shrills pursued an attack on my person instead. Because they are unwilling to discuss the facts. My person is irrelevant to the facts about VNL. They think that by slandering my person, they can cause readers to think that my analysis of the facts is wrong, without ever presenting an actual rebuttal on the facts.

It will live forever in my messages and an rft file in case the mods try to delete that 


"Quote from: john-connor on Today at 12:58:11 AM

The "terminal illness" is a lie to gain confidence, refer to con-man 101 or matchstick 101. The lies about his vapornothing and loving to argue about nothing, it's sad. Seek therapy. but yes Vanilla is quite nice, clean asynchronous code design. 🍒 Cool"

[TPTB_need_war]

Dude read what I wrote.  I didn't say LN and Zerotime are the same thing.

It was an answer to the previous posters queries on how instant transactions effect the total tps due to max blocksize.

Also I never said pruning effects blocksize, but it does effect the nodes requirements to run the network.

As for the TROLLING.  I use that in direct relation to your constant eluding towards a better project.  And how you need to move that conversation to another thread.

So far any topics you have brought up about VNL I have no problems with and have discussed them very civilly with you.  You need to stop thinking of everyone on here being a collective persona, and direct conversations with each person individually.

I'm done chatting with you.  You obviously have a very distinct conflict of interest regarding VNL, and your lack of civility shows an abhor ant absence of ability towards working with others.  

Your entire post was filled with technical error stacked upon error.

For example:

Blocksize is never going to be an issue with vnl.

That statement is entirely wrong. John has designed nothing to deal with the fundamental Tragedy of the Commons issue around block size (refer also to my posts and video in the Ethereum Paradox thread which expound on that). Dude I have been writing about that issue since 2013 when I was perhaps one of the first to nail the block size as the future issue of failure for Bitcoin and even explained it recently to smooth and ArticMine in the context of showing that Satoshi did not solve the Byzantine Generals Problem. You are not qualified to challenge me on that this issue. Please learn to respect those who have more knowledge than you do, or at least take the time to read and understand the points I have made in my 10,000+ post history which contains my research. If you think otherwise, then present your detailed technical rebuttal.

Again note that pruning has nothing to do with block size.

And again, replying with attacks on my person, just shows that you shills are incapable of debating the technical facts. The tactics of you shills is when ever I make a strong factual post, you follow it with as much noise posts attacking my person as you can, to bury the facts and never address them.

Edit: I am only operating on about 10 - 20% of my capability due to chronic illness. I am sorry but this is a fact.

[bl234st]

Oh great so the mod removed all the evidence where john-conner was calling me a scammer because he claimed my illness was faked. And then I challenged John to a bet on that and John never replied. Even another user who I don't know had commented that John's post was despicable but the mod deleted his post as well. Sure seems the mod is confused or is a VNL supporter (I assume the former).

So the mods think they are helping to spread the truth when they delete evidence  

I asked the mods to deal with the tit-for-tat attacks on my person which are irrelevant to the facts I presented about Zerotime and Chainblender which haven't been rebutted.

Instead of deleting those, they deleted the evidence that incriminates John.  

Basically the situation is I presented my analysis of Zerotime and Chainblender upthread, then instead of replying on those points, the VNL shrills pursued an attack on my person instead. Because they are unwilling to discuss the facts. My person is irrelevant to the facts about VNL. They think that by slandering my person, they can cause readers to think that my analysis of the facts is wrong, without ever presenting an actual rebuttal on the facts.

Yep. He deleted my post! Not cool. Guess calling someone a faker is ok, but calling someone despicable for saying it, is not. 

[TPTB_need_war]

Yep. He deleted my post! Not cool. Guess calling someone a faker is ok, but calling someone despicable for saying it, is not. 

The mod simply didn't understand the entire context because he just read a few posts and made a quick decision. I don't really blame the mod. I did message him about it.

[bitcoin carpenter]

He deleted my posts as well..

We were way off topic though.

[bakedrice]

what's the big deal with vnl anyway?

what makes it better than the thousands of coins out there?

[iCEBREAKER]

what's the big deal with vnl anyway?

what makes it better than the thousands of coins out there?

Only big deal about vnl was the hype.

Nothing made it better than the other shitcoins.

Unlike ShadowCash, vnl isn't even cool enough to be broken by Shen.

vnl is only famous for having stolen code, and a dev that attacked GMAX for pointing out that fact.

2/10.  Lame.  Would Not Pump Again.

[traumschiff]

what's the big deal with vnl anyway?

what makes it better than the thousands of coins out there?

Only big deal about vnl was the hype.

Nothing made it better than the other shitcoins.

Unlike ShadowCash, vnl isn't even cool enough to be broken by Shen.

vnl is only famous for having stolen code, and a dev that attacked GMAX for pointing out that fact.

2/10.  Lame.  Would Not Pump Again.

Good thing you have no credibility left on this forum or in the whole bitcoin space Eduardo.

-∞/10

[bitcoin carpenter]

If you want to know all the reasons vnl is worth looking at go to vanillacoin.net.

[bigfryguy]

CHAINBLENDER RC1 is now released, and being tested.  join vanillacoin.net to try it out. 

[bigfryguy]

what's the big deal with vnl anyway?

what makes it better than the thousands of coins out there?

Only big deal about vnl was the hype.

Nothing made it better than the other shitcoins.

Unlike ShadowCash, vnl isn't even cool enough to be broken by Shen.

vnl is only famous for having stolen code, and a dev that attacked GMAX for pointing out that fact.

2/10.  Lame.  Would Not Pump Again.

wrong again... 

apart from all the other features John has released,
VNL is famous for being the only coin in altcoinland to have 3 distinct growth cycles in one year, all having higher highs and higher lows than the one before.  also it just recently touched on a fourth ATH in VNL/USD,  if it breaks out and surpasses its last ATH/BTC it will be the only project in cryptoland including BTC to do this cycle 4 times in that period of time.

VNL is the opposite of a P&D

[Riseman]

what's the big deal with vnl anyway?

what makes it better than the thousands of coins out there?

...

wrong again...  

apart from all the other features John has released,
VNL is famous for being the only coin in altcoinland to have 3 distinct growth cycles in one year, all having higher highs and higher lows than the one before.  also it just recently touched on a fourth ATH in VNL/USD,  if it breaks out and surpasses its last ATH/BTC it will be the only project in cryptoland including BTC to do this cycle 4 times in that period of time.

VNL is the opposite of a P&D

How can it have 3 pumps followed by crashes in one year and not be a P&D? Please note that I'm not speaking about the tech, the devs, their intentions or anything else - only about market behaviour. As far as I see what is happening now is pure P&D. Moving walls, fake support, massive sell off, etc. There was even a "dump on the news" - 30% (yet) price crash at the precise moment of Chainblender RC release. I may be wrong but I see it this way.

I mean the tech is great and promising but it doesn't ensure someone doesn't use the hype to do P&D. This is what all crypto markets are about.

[bigfryguy]

pump and dump is a term referring to the scam of one group of people buying up supply early in a coins life then driving its price through the roof(way over its actual value, creating an overvalued asset) then selling off all there coins and leaving the project, or at least no longer investing in it.

markets that recover from quick exponential rises by keeping prices higher ( higher highs, and higher lows than the previous normal before the exponential rise) should be considerred undervalued assets as the investors/developers have decided to keep their wealth inside the project and have not run off with the investment.

its economics


this latest speculative rise is definately being controlled, and past performance never proves future performance, but the past performance has followed my second scenario, and only time will tell whether this pattern continues.

[bigfryguy]

what's the big deal with vnl anyway?

what makes it better than the thousands of coins out there?

...

wrong again...  

apart from all the other features John has released,
VNL is famous for being the only coin in altcoinland to have 3 distinct growth cycles in one year, all having higher highs and higher lows than the one before.  also it just recently touched on a fourth ATH in VNL/USD,  if it breaks out and surpasses its last ATH/BTC it will be the only project in cryptoland including BTC to do this cycle 4 times in that period of time.

VNL is the opposite of a P&D

How can it have 3 pumps followed by crashes in one year and not be a P&D? Please note that I'm not speaking about the tech, the devs, their intentions or anything else - only about market behaviour. As far as I see what is happening now is pure P&D. Moving walls, fake support, massive sell off, etc. There was even a "dump on the news" - 30% (yet) price crash at the precise moment of Chainblender RC release. I may be wrong but I see it this way.

I mean the tech is great and promising but it doesn't ensure someone doesn't use the hype to do P&D. This is what all crypto markets are about.

How can it?
well if a boom and bust cycle surpasses the previous one is how. In the case of VNL there has only ever been massive sell pressure, the buy pressure has always been met with immediate wall builds that have stopped the rise from prematurely going way over its true value.

for how a pump and dump looks please check the total charts for every other project over a year old.   All of them are  pump and Dump, the only one that I can find that had a healthy constant low afterwards is XMR, and coming from me towards a project that I have totally removed myself from this is high praise.