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Question: Which of these most closely resembles your political position?
Anarcho-Capitalist - 31 (40.3%)
Left-Wing Anarchist - 9 (11.7%)
Classical Liberal - 6 (7.8%)
Socialist - 11 (14.3%)
American Liberal - 5 (6.5%)
American Conservative - 1 (1.3%)
Other (please specify) - 10 (13%)
Apolitical/Non-Ideological - 4 (5.2%)
Total Voters: 76

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June 20, 2011, 01:24:45 AM
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Society should be completely decentralized. No government. No money. No forced labor. No licenses or registrations. What will hold it together is peer-to-peer networks and similar organizations in person and through other technology. A big change would have to happen in how people think society should be organized, so they don't just try to form more hierarchies. Somebody has to protect the nukes, right? No, get rid of them.

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June 20, 2011, 01:34:24 AM
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No government. No money. No forced labor. No licenses or registrations.

Yes, no, yes, yes.

Money is kinda required, because it's really hard to figure the change back from a Chicken.

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June 20, 2011, 02:01:18 AM
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Just take the chicken, and later let someone take something they want. That sounds strange and improbable now because it rarely happens, but if it happened all the time then it would continue happening.

But more importantly, because wearable mind reading technology is being sold retail now (which only reads simple thoughts like directions and emotions, Emotiv Epoc for example), and that will continue advancing, a network of people who communicate through their thoughts can organize themselves better than a number can. Money is just a number.

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June 20, 2011, 02:36:32 AM
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Just take the chicken, and later let someone take something they want.

You're really advocating a return to barter?

There's a reason a medium of exchange was created.

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June 22, 2011, 06:09:04 AM
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It may be possible to get rid of money if technology advances far enough, but I doubt it. Mises and the problems of economic calculation have convinced me.
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June 22, 2011, 06:22:54 AM
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I picked "classical liberal" assuming that you meant a Jeffersonian believer in limited government (which is not the same thing as no government) and broad support for civil and human rights.  In other words, I don't really have a political home in America these days. <wry grin>

I was interested in Bitcoin as an experiment in non-centrally-controlled digital currency that allows secure, private transactions between individuals across the Internet, just as physical money does between individuals who meet in the physical world.  The current online payment solutions are unsatisfactory, especially to somebody who is considering running a small online business.  Most of them charge too much and provide too little security.  So I guess Bitcoin hasn't affected my politics at all, but it's early days yet. :-)
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June 22, 2011, 11:22:06 PM
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The price system is one of the most important features of an economy, and without it the economy ceases to exist. Soviet Russia didn't have a price system, and they basically just borrowed prices from neighboring capitalist conuntries, and that still didn't keep them from wasting tons of resources and not being able to deliver others. Money and prices are an information exchange, you simply can't get rid of them.

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June 22, 2011, 11:39:18 PM
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It may be possible to get rid of money if technology advances far enough, but I doubt it. Mises and the problems of economic calculation have convinced me.

Star Trek was fictitious.
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June 22, 2011, 11:47:35 PM
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It may be possible to get rid of money if technology advances far enough, but I doubt it. Mises and the problems of economic calculation have convinced me.

Star Trek was fictitious.

So was From the Earth to the Moon.

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June 24, 2011, 11:59:31 AM
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Yay! I'm on the winning team Smiley

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June 25, 2011, 12:49:31 AM
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ZombieRothbard, what a great name!   Cheesy

Yeah, I picked "Anarcho-Capitalist", although honestly Rothbard himself coined that term with tounge-in-cheek, since a free-market voluntary society based on peer-to-peer legal structures with private courts and police isn't really what is historically understood to be "Capitalist" nor "Anarchist".

"We will not find a solution to political problems in cryptography, but we can win a major battle in the arms race and gain a new territory of freedom for several years.

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