Pope attacks Trump saying he is 'not Christian'

[BADecker]

So... the pope recently said that Catholics are allowed to use condoms to help prevent the spread of the Zika virus...

Why would Catholics need condoms?  Is he implying that God won't protect them from Zika?

yes he is definetely implying this.. god save the catholics from all bad things in this world except zika virus.. because zika virus isnt created by god.. it is created by atheists

No, no. Good Catholics do not believe in Jesus salvation. Good Catholics will go to Hell.

[BADecker]

So... the pope recently said that Catholics are allowed to use condoms to help prevent the spread of the Zika virus...

Why would Catholics need condoms?  Is he implying that God won't protect them from Zika?

yes he is definetely implying this.. god save the catholics from all bad things in this world except zika virus.. because zika virus isnt created by god.. it is created by atheists

If I would ever meet that Pope character, I'd ask him: "Hey buddy, how come your God sent Zika on us in the first place? Why does he wants to kill us?  Can you tell your God to leave us alone? Why is he tormenting children, old and disabled?  Not very Christian of him."

He has audacity to say that Trump is not Christian, implying like it is noble thing to be one.  Give me a break.  The guy is a joke.  Thank God he is the last pope.

People made Zika, not God.   

[BADecker]

good quotes.. pope and other religious guys should eat their own shit.. and leave us alone..

Fantastic!

I forgot about how tall the Vatican City walls were... what is that?  Around 50 feet tall?

I suppose the pope also forgot that part in the bible where it says... and I quote:

You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye

Not believing in God gives you the biggest log-in-eye.   

[BADecker]

The pope and his Roman Catholic church is yet to donate a single penny to the recent wave of immigrants from Syria. Vatican has not given refugee status to anyone from the Middle East. He is not ready to share the expenses of housing the immigrants in Europe. He expects the European tax payers to sponsor it instead. Can this guy become any more shameless?

Don't be silly... Religions only take your money to live the high life... They don't spend it helping those in need... That's why God invented Atheists

Religions get donations. Atheists steal.   

[BADecker]

Pope ain't nothing but a scammer. Period.

The biggest scammer the whole world has seen.   

[BADecker]

Pope should not attack Trump. Trump has big chance to be the next President of America. Pope would be needing Trump help once ISIS surrounded Vatican.

Trump should not be the worst man ever. He should at least try to be decent.

Yes! Somebody needs to set a good example for the Pope.   

[BADecker]

My thought on that : Trump is not a good Christian, because he's not against the pregnancy interruption. The actual Pope is not a good Pope, because he's a bit leftist, in a political or in religious way, surely a mix of both.

Yeah the Pope isn't a good Pope because he tries to be good with other humans. Horrible Christians.

Papacy sends people to Hell by holding the Pope up as God.    

[BADecker]

The pope will sway a lot of republican votes

Not sure about that. Most of the Roman Catholics in the United States are Hispanics, especially the Mexicans, Guatemalans, and the El Salvadorians. These guys are vehemently against Trump from the very beginning. The Mexicans hate Trump, and he hates them back. On the other hand, this incident might propel the anti-Catholic groups such as the Baptists and the Mormons in to supporting Trump.

And as Roman Catholics, most of them aren't Christians. They admit it.   

[BADecker]

My math might be a bit rusty, but 69% (non-hispanic) of 69.5 million people is ~48 million people/votes

Now, not all of those people vote, or are republicans, or had any intention of voting for Trump... but even 5-10 million votes is a lot

In that case, I stand corrected. Forgot the fact that the United States is home to millions of Irish, Italians, and Poles, who are overwhelmingly Catholic. Even many of those with German and French origins are Catholic. And you are correct. Many of these non-Hispanic White Catholics are traditional GOP voters. But the question is whether the Pope will have any influence on these voters or not. The Catholics in the US are not as religious as say, the Baptists or the Mormons. On top of that, many of them are not in favor of immigration from Mexico.

I think that more Catholics than one might think are not buying Bergoglio's bullshit.  As near as I can see, many American Catholics are perfectly happy to pick and choose church stuff which makes sense to them and stuff which does not, and that has been going on for a long time.  Some Catholics seem genuinely stunned at the hard left turn and new-age eco weirdness their church has taken and are saying things like "I want my church back."  It's probably not just Catholics either.  Some churches are actually given financial breaks by government for preaching green religion to their parishioners so I read.  Very interesting even if it is not terribly wide-spread.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/19/maryland-county-to-churches-preach-environmentalism-and-get-a-tax-break/

Some people are scratching their heads and wondering aloud whether Bergoglio is not actually trying to chase people out of Catholasism, or at least some notable segments of the flock.  I find such a suggestion fascenating and worth more exploration.

Catholicism is very different in America than in Spain, Portugal, Italy, and most of the South American countries.

[Losvienleg]

The pope will sway a lot of republican votes

Not sure about that. Most of the Roman Catholics in the United States are Hispanics, especially the Mexicans, Guatemalans, and the El Salvadorians. These guys are vehemently against Trump from the very beginning. The Mexicans hate Trump, and he hates them back. On the other hand, this incident might propel the anti-Catholic groups such as the Baptists and the Mormons in to supporting Trump.

And as Roman Catholics, most of them aren't Christians. They admit it.   

I don't see your point . If you are a Roman Catholic then you're a Christian. You can't be Catholic without being a Christian.

[BADecker]

No, there aren't any Syrian refugees there, for the most obvious reason that it isn't a good place to house people. Most of the Vatican is a museum. It's like saying that the Louvre in Paris, or the British National Museum should house refugees. Let's put it clearly that this isn't a proper place for that.

Have you ever been to Vatican? Not all of Vatican is a museum. There are offices, restaurants and hotels. There is a lot of space available for residence. Most of the guesthouses and villas in Vatican remain vacant 90% of the time. These buildings can be used to house the refugees. I am not asking the Vatican to take in thousands of refugees. Even if they could take a few dozen, it will be fine with me.

Mr Coleman, if you say you've been to the Vatican, you're a LIAR!

I'm sorry to point it out, but had you been there, you you would know there are no hotels. I'm not saying there's only a few hotels, I'm saying the truth which is that there isn't a single hotel in the whole country. No hotels, and there's never been one. Guest houses? No guest houses either. Not a single one. I suppose they have some guest rooms, but I know that when they have a congress, some priests have to sleep outside the Vatican, so there should not be many of them.

Besides, when it comes to restaurants, don't think about Las Vegas. It's impossible to buy a stiff drink there. Coffee with pastries, and you can get a decent meal, but don't expect huge T-bone steaks like in Texas. All the food and drinks are modest.

The only free space is in the garden. That place is absolutely spotless, large with beautiful flowers. One of the best garden I've ever seen. But opening it to refugees would ruin it. Just imagine London allowing all British homeless to camp in Hyde Park. Nobody wants that.

This allows me to repeat that the walls around the Vatican are totally different to the wall the Donald is planning to build. Regarding catholics, the average American only thinks about himself, so nobody shall be surprised but religion is falling.

I have to add that people around the Vatican are profiting from all the poeple that goes there. If I remember well, a tiny 25cl water bottle was something like 3€.

This is why USA should remove tax exemption from all religious organizations. Most are criminal and not using the monies as solicited. Now we have muslims claiming they are a religious organization and are tax exempt. What religion murders, beheads, rapes kids, stones to death, burns to death and we are giving them tax exemptions.

Can't remove tax exempt from religions in America. It is against the law to do that.

[BADecker]

The pope will sway a lot of republican votes

Not sure about that. Most of the Roman Catholics in the United States are Hispanics, especially the Mexicans, Guatemalans, and the El Salvadorians. These guys are vehemently against Trump from the very beginning. The Mexicans hate Trump, and he hates them back. On the other hand, this incident might propel the anti-Catholic groups such as the Baptists and the Mormons in to supporting Trump.

And as Roman Catholics, most of them aren't Christians. They admit it.   

I don't see your point . If you are a Roman Catholic then you're a Christian. You can't be Catholic without being a Christian.

Not necessarily. Many Christians in word are not Christians in fact.

The only people who are true Christians are the ones who believe in Jesus salvation.

Most Catholics in predominantly Catholic countries believe in good works salvation.

Not Christian, even though many of them think that they are.

[mrflibblehat]

The pope will sway a lot of republican votes

Not sure about that. Most of the Roman Catholics in the United States are Hispanics, especially the Mexicans, Guatemalans, and the El Salvadorians. These guys are vehemently against Trump from the very beginning. The Mexicans hate Trump, and he hates them back. On the other hand, this incident might propel the anti-Catholic groups such as the Baptists and the Mormons in to supporting Trump.

And as Roman Catholics, most of them aren't Christians. They admit it.   

I don't see your point . If you are a Roman Catholic then you're a Christian. You can't be Catholic without being a Christian.

Not necessarily. Many Christians in word are not Christians in fact.

The only people who are true Christians are the ones who believe in Jesus salvation.

Most Catholics in predominantly Catholic countries believe in good works salvation.

Not Christian, even though many of them think that they are.

The only real Christians are those that agree with you isn't it? The rest are all heathens.

[eon89]

I'm sure Trump really gives a damn about what the Pope says about him.

[axxo]

The Pope can say someone can't be Catholic, but even excommunicated Catholics can be Christians. It's not up to men to say that.

[bryant.coleman]

Can't remove tax exempt from religions in America. It is against the law to do that.

Then it is discriminating against the atheists. The atheists have to pay taxes for their institutions, while the religious people are exempt from doing so. Why there should be an exemption?

Mr Coleman, if you say you've been to the Vatican, you're a LIAR!

I'm sorry to point it out, but had you been there, you you would know there are no hotels. I'm not saying there's only a few hotels, I'm saying the truth which is that there isn't a single hotel in the whole country. No hotels, and there's never been one. Guest houses? No guest houses either. Not a single one. I suppose they have some guest rooms, but I know that when they have a congress, some priests have to sleep outside the Vatican, so there should not be many of them.

Calm down ya batty! There are a large number of palaces in Vatican. When I meant "hotels", I was referring to them. Examples are Palace of Saint Charles, Apostolic Palace, Belvedere Palace.etc. Then there are other buildings such as the Swiss Guards Barracks, Domus Sanctae Martae guesthouse, and the Residence of the arch-priest. You are claiming that none of these buildings can be used for housing a few dozen refugees?

[Losvienleg]

Can't remove tax exempt from religions in America. It is against the law to do that.

Then it is discriminating against the atheists. The atheists have to pay taxes for their institutions, while the religious people are exempt from doing so. Why there should be an exemption?

I think that it is the way it should work. The atheist tell lies all the time, then you can't reward them for that. We definitly need an official religion.

[Snail2]

The pope shouldn't get involved in actual daily politics, especially not in elections. Also, he shouldn't label people as 'not Christian' because of there are many christian churches outside his domain.  

[pinger]

Can't remove tax exempt from religions in America. It is against the law to do that.

Then it is discriminating against the atheists. The atheists have to pay taxes for their institutions, while the religious people are exempt from doing so. Why there should be an exemption?

I think that it is the way it should work. The atheist tell lies all the time, then you can't reward them for that. We definitly need an official religion.

Congratulation Atheists, that what the church of the flying spaguetti monster was created for. Become a pastafari

[Snail2]

I'm not Catholic, but I confused at how Catholics criticize the Pope when they believe the Pope to be infallible.  If the Pope can't be wrong, the how can Catholics disagree with him?

The doctrine of papal infallibility is about the matters of faith and the belief system. But it doesn't apply to other things like politics, science, economy, etc.