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January 17, 2013, 12:12:22 AM
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what is the ultimate system for Bitcoins reputation on the great mass? OTC does not count because it's complicated. TL; DL.

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January 17, 2013, 01:21:36 AM
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what is the ultimate system for Bitcoins reputation on the great mass? OTC does not count because it's complicated. TL; DL.

OTC is the gold standard. A close second is having your IRL identity well known. Beyond that the Rhodium circa 2008 (around 10,000 an once back then) standard is the strong WOT rating from OTC trades combined with a well known IRL identity.

For all of the effort it might seem to take to use OTC and WOT, as well as further time to build a reputation there that is where most of the big deals happen.

It is a bit much for most people, so a lesser standard is building up a general history of making good trades and not being and asshole. Read the scam accusations threads and understand why some things make people suspicious.

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January 17, 2013, 01:27:08 AM
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But there is no web site where you can use a reputation system easily like "StackOverflow"-like-rep-schema, for example?

OTC is for nerds, and it's boring and useless even for nerds without time.

Atruk, really, do you think great mass will use something like OTC?  Huh

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January 17, 2013, 01:34:26 AM
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Only do business with people you know and trust.  Anything else is just a good heuristic that will fail.

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January 17, 2013, 01:50:26 AM
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Is anyone working on a frontend for OTC?  It would have to run locally, and connect to IRC by itself, but that part shouldn't be too hard to get rolling.

I can use OTC fine.  It's just such a chore, so I'm less likely to conduct trades.

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January 17, 2013, 01:55:40 AM
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OTC is easy and fast if you read the Wiki.
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January 17, 2013, 02:23:37 AM
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Since OTC's most simple entryway is signing messages with your BTC key, I wonder how you can even use most clients without calling it "a chore", "complicated", "boring" or "useless".

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January 17, 2013, 02:39:32 AM
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But there is no web site where you can use a reputation system easily like "StackOverflow"-like-rep-schema, for example?

OTC is for nerds, and it's boring and useless even for nerds without time.

Atruk, really, do you think great mass will use something like OTC?  Huh

Maybe?

The alternative still involves spending a lot of time trading honestly and building up reputation that way.

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January 17, 2013, 03:39:41 AM
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it really is not hard to use OTC, and the ability to find people exchanging BTC for cash easily is well worth the time invested in learning how to use it. 

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January 17, 2013, 03:50:23 AM
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January 17, 2013, 04:01:25 AM
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if you read the Wiki.

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You must be extraordinarily lazy.  Because I'm really lazy and didn't have a problem with otc.

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January 17, 2013, 04:17:04 AM
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I am extraordinarily lazy and busy. I made the guide "Git for the lazy".

http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc

has 2619 words. NO WAY.

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January 17, 2013, 04:29:55 AM
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All you need is this page if you have bitcoin-qt: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Bitcoin_address_authentication

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January 17, 2013, 05:03:06 AM
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I don't have bitcoin-qt because it is incompatible with my system.

And this page has 782 words.

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January 17, 2013, 05:19:17 AM
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I don't have bitcoin-qt because it is incompatible with my system.

And this page has 782 words.

What kind of system is that?  You actually only need the rpc commands if you can run bitcoind.

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January 17, 2013, 05:24:59 AM
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I have Ubuntu. But my system reboots every 6 hours and *always* corrupt my blockchain, forcing me download everything again Sad

But I'll try to use a VirtualBox with snapshots, so if I have the DB corrupt again I just recover the last snapshot. Anyway, OTC is complicated. For me, a 11-yrs programmers is annoying the steps, you can imagine for my mum, for example. It's true: OTC is impossible to handle. We have a more user-friendly system, maybe linked with Facebook account. I know it is possible to make FB fakes, but it's hard to do a good fake, with a lot of pics, old posts, real friends etc.

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January 17, 2013, 05:26:12 AM
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Thanks for the tip!! I'll try it.

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January 17, 2013, 05:33:52 AM
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If your system can't handle https://github.com/brainwallet/brainwallet.github.com for signing, then it's time to throw it off a cliff.

I need to find a cliff for this iCrap.  I'm in WV so it shouldn't be hard.

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January 17, 2013, 05:36:24 AM
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I have Ubuntu. But my system reboots every 6 hours and *always* corrupt my blockchain, forcing me download everything again Sad

But I'll try to use a VirtualBox with snapshots, so if I have the DB corrupt again I just recover the last snapshot. Anyway, OTC is complicated. For me, a 11-yrs programmers is annoying the steps, you can imagine for my mum, for example. It's true: OTC is impossible to handle. We have a more user-friendly system, maybe linked with Facebook account. I know it is possible to make FB fakes, but it's hard to do a good fake, with a lot of pics, old posts, real friends etc.

Sounds like you either have a corrupt hard drive or faulty memory btw.  Many boot loaders have a memtest option you might want to try.  Not sure if Ubuntu's install has it though.

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January 17, 2013, 06:01:23 AM
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If your system can't handle https://github.com/brainwallet/brainwallet.github.com for signing, then it's time to throw it off a cliff.

I need to find a cliff for this iCrap.  I'm in WV so it shouldn't be hard.

I assume iCrap means iPad. If so, it's just Javascript... you can use http://brainwallet.org/#sign - over secured wireless internet that you trust with your life.

I have Ubuntu. But my system reboots every 6 hours and *always* corrupt my blockchain, forcing me download everything again Sad

But I'll try to use a VirtualBox with snapshots, so if I have the DB corrupt again I just recover the last snapshot. Anyway, OTC is complicated. For me, a 11-yrs programmers is annoying the steps, you can imagine for my mum, for example. It's true: OTC is impossible to handle. We have a more user-friendly system, maybe linked with Facebook account. I know it is possible to make FB fakes, but it's hard to do a good fake, with a lot of pics, old posts, real friends etc.

Unbelievable. I can just barely pull off basic HTML and AppleScript, and even I was/am able to do it. ENOUGH ALREADY.

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