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February 26, 2016, 02:10:02 AM
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In one of the topics here appeared the subject of downloading the human brain into a hard drive in the near future.
Also one of Ray Kurzweil's books was mentioned.
What do you think (feel about) of this?
Will it happen in the next 50 (maximum) years?
Will this be the first step in becoming immortal?

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February 26, 2016, 03:01:46 AM
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I personally don't believe it will be possible, but I do wish it would become reality.

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February 26, 2016, 03:04:02 AM
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Well they did managed to map all areas of the brain.
The human mind is starting to be not such a mystery to us.

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February 26, 2016, 03:13:26 AM
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I think it will take much longer to do something like this and possibly never.  The human brain is too complicated.  Humans will probably destroy the planet before they can get that far.
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February 26, 2016, 03:14:02 AM
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Think the brain still has a ways to go, like figuring out how the brain receives info from the gut.
The way connections are made and where we store info is being broke down but how to fix it is a bit slower. Think 3 years till its tried, maybe 15 years from sucess.

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February 26, 2016, 11:48:26 AM
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Seeing as how fast technology is advancing we could not recognize the world in 50 years. Who knows?

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February 27, 2016, 08:53:21 AM
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I don't think human brain can be downloaded into a hard drive. The information might be, yes. But is it really what makes us human beings? Our thoughts also depend on our feelings and as long as computer can't feel the world, hard drive is not an appropriate solution for our immortality

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February 27, 2016, 10:14:15 AM
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Feelings are what brings us down most of the times.

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February 27, 2016, 01:42:21 PM
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I think we'll need to figure out what consciousness is before being able to migrate it.

And who knows how a mind without a body will operate? A human being is a giant slab of chemical and electrical soup. It's all there for a reason.
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February 27, 2016, 03:57:36 PM
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In one of the topics here appeared the subject of downloading the human brain into a hard drive in the near future.
Also one of Ray Kurzweil's books was mentioned.
What do you think (feel about) of this?
Will it happen in the next 50 (maximum) years?
Will this be the first step in becoming immortal?


Ghost in the shell. The best ever, regarding all of your questions. It is amazing how timeless the story is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4-XGLXgHi4

The Stand alone Complex episodes are really deep. Almost prophetic. I Hope not.


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February 27, 2016, 04:05:34 PM
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I think we'll need to figure out what consciousness is before being able to migrate it.

And who knows how a mind without a body will operate? A human being is a giant slab of chemical and electrical soup. It's all there for a reason.


We meet again, consciousness , and I still don't know who or what you are, how tall you are, how much you weigh, where you are, where you've been before I was. How can I download you if I can't define you first?


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February 27, 2016, 06:12:40 PM
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I personally don't believe it will be possible, but I do wish it would become reality.

why not ? someday in the remote future, i will happen .. who knows ?

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February 27, 2016, 06:53:22 PM
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I think it will take much longer to do something like this and possibly never.  The human brain is too complicated.  Humans will probably destroy the planet before they can get that far.

i dont think so.. we will see that tech development is getting faster and scary for humanity.. we will be doomed to live in its horrible concequencies..
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February 27, 2016, 07:04:28 PM
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I think it will take much longer to do something like this and possibly never.  The human brain is too complicated.  Humans will probably destroy the planet before they can get that far.

i dont think so.. we will see that tech development is getting faster and scary for humanity.. we will be doomed to live in its horrible concequencies..


Maybe this singularity happened before. Little traces of this event lingers in our collective minds, generations after generations, forgotten, then transformed, becoming a false memory/tale called Atlantis?

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February 27, 2016, 07:15:10 PM
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Every living creature is mortal, there is no such thing as immortality. I don't beleive that it will be ever possible in the future. Every part of human has its' "validity period", that is how the things are.

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February 27, 2016, 07:21:18 PM
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Every living creature is mortal, there is no such thing as immortality. I don't beleive that it will be ever possible in the future. Every part of human has its' "validity period", that is how the things are.


Life would be so much sweeter if all the actual politicians, google and facebook bosses, the police, etc... could live forever...

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February 27, 2016, 07:34:20 PM
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I think it will take much longer to do something like this and possibly never.  The human brain is too complicated.  Humans will probably destroy the planet before they can get that far.

i dont think so.. we will see that tech development is getting faster and scary for humanity.. we will be doomed to live in its horrible concequencies..


Maybe this singularity happened before. Little traces of this event lingers in our collective minds, generations after generations, forgotten, then transformed, becoming a false memory/tale called Atlantis?

 Cool




That made me think of this old favorite of mine by Donovan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AUEjzVQwKo

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To the East Africa was a neighbour, across a short strait of sea miles.
The great Egyptian age is but a remnant of The Atlantian culture.
The antediluvian kings colonised the world
All the Gods who play in the mythological dramas
In all legends from all lands were from fair Atlantis.
Knowing her fate, Atlantis sent out ships to all corners of the Earth.
On board were the Twelve:
The poet, the physician, the farmer, the scientist,
The magician and the other so-called Gods of our legends.
Though Gods they were -
And as the elders of our time choose to remain blind
Let us rejoice and let us sing and dance and ring in the new
Hail Atlantis!
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February 28, 2016, 01:36:58 AM
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I think it will take much longer to do something like this and possibly never.  The human brain is too complicated.  Humans will probably destroy the planet before they can get that far.

i dont think so.. we will see that tech development is getting faster and scary for humanity.. we will be doomed to live in its horrible concequencies..


Maybe this singularity happened before. Little traces of this event lingers in our collective minds, generations after generations, forgotten, then transformed, becoming a false memory/tale called Atlantis?

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I thought about this very idea many times. It would be a great idea for a movie.

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February 28, 2016, 08:40:16 AM
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In one of the topics here appeared the subject of downloading the human brain into a hard drive in the near future.
Also one of Ray Kurzweil's books was mentioned.
What do you think (feel about) of this?
Will it happen in the next 50 (maximum) years?
Will this be the first step in becoming immortal?

I don't think that immortality is a goal here. Ray Kurzweil said: "Death gives meaning to our lives. It gives importance and value to time. Time would become meaningless if there were too much of it." And I completely agree with him. Also I don't think that downloading the human brain into a hard drive would be ever possible. Actually we still don't know exactly what is human brain and how it operates.

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February 28, 2016, 01:42:28 PM
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In one of the topics here appeared the subject of downloading the human brain into a hard drive in the near future.
Also one of Ray Kurzweil's books was mentioned.
What do you think (feel about) of this?
Will it happen in the next 50 (maximum) years?
Will this be the first step in becoming immortal?

I don't think that immortality is a goal here. Ray Kurzweil said: "Death gives meaning to our lives. It gives importance and value to time. Time would become meaningless if there were too much of it." And I completely agree with him. Also I don't think that downloading the human brain into a hard drive would be ever possible. Actually we still don't know exactly what is human brain and how it operates.

Yes, we don't know at the moment. But how many incredible discoveries were made in the last 50 years alone.
And the rate technology is evolving in accelerating constantly.

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