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March 18, 2016, 09:09:30 AM
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Singularity is the moment when a computer will be aware of itself and so a self-conscious being, not exactly the uploading of a human brain to a computer.

It won't make us immortal for two reasons:
1) It won't be us, but a digital clone of us. We will still die.
2) Soon or later something would happen to the computer. It would be destroyed by a war, a catastrophic event, the end of our sun, the end of our universe, etc. Death would wait for his destruction almost an eternity if necessary, but it would happen. As physicians say, in nature, if something is possible, it will be a necessary event, because it will be just a question of waiting enough time for it to happen (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1221052.0).

Since there can't be any immortality, and death is our destiny, unfortunately, the issue of the effect of immortality on the value of time can't be really tested. Clearly, being able to live thousand of years would lower the value of our time. But I surely wouldn't mind to have time to be able to real waste it.

In the end, the only positive way to part from this life would be if we were completely bored with it. Think about it: life is like a relationship, the only happy way to end it is if we were tired of it. If we still love it, death will always be a tragedy.

Beside, being able to make our own decision to end life is also a positive thing. Death wouldn't be imposed by nature, but would be our own decision. One of the major problems of death is that is imposed on us against our will.

Of course, parting this life because of are bored with it wouldn't be exactly a happy moment. But it might be less unhappy than to parting it when we are still in love with life.

I'm not making an apology of suicide. In our current conditions, where life is a blink of an eye of awareness, in between two eternities of being nothing (before being alive and after being dead), suicide seems absurd. Even if life was a pain (not literally; if it was really a pain, euthanasia would make completely sense), why rush things?, we'll be dead "soon". But if we could live thousands of years, suicide could make more sense.

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March 18, 2016, 09:22:25 AM
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Their is neither first, nor last step in immortality. There is no such thing. Everthing that lives has to die, that is how the things are going.

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March 18, 2016, 09:54:12 AM
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Maybe it will be in future but technology will not able to find so big harddisk
And what we'll do memories, feelings and more?
And in which format it will be saved?
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March 18, 2016, 10:00:30 AM
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Their is neither first, nor last step in immortality. There is no such thing. Everthing that lives has to die, that is how the things are going.

Just a thought. It seems that everything has to die. And that is all we know about. But consider. We don't understand the processes of life, the processes whereby life came about, and the universe, enough that we know how this whole thing came into being. When we eliminate the guesses in science, and the guestimations, and the stuff that is hyped up, and instead look at the facts that we know, life and the universe and everything is impossible except for one fact. It exists. So, why might resurrection not be possible?

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March 18, 2016, 01:01:18 PM
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... So, why might resurrection not be possible?

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Because the process of brain cell death is irreversible.  Once your brain is dead, you are dead.
The damage to the brain is beyond repair after few hours.

There have been people who have been resuscitated after 40+ minutes of being clinically dead.
But beyond few hours your chances are close to zero.  Most people who have been resuscitated after
extended period of time suffer brain damage with manifests itself in affected motor function, memory loss, changes in personality etc.  You get back a slightly different "you".

There is no way for someone to be raised from dead after 3 days  Wink

If someone was "raised" from dead after 3 days, that person was not dead to begin with.

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March 18, 2016, 09:45:34 PM
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If this does happen, which i do not think it will in the near future, I don't think it will be beneficial, sometimes, science and technology will take things too far. I say we just let our minds and bodies stay as they are, and not turn them into a device.
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March 18, 2016, 11:37:09 PM
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... So, why might resurrection not be possible?

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Because the process of brain cell death is irreversible.  Once your brain is dead, you are dead.
The damage to the brain is beyond repair after few hours.

There have been people who have been resuscitated after 40+ minutes of being clinically dead.
But beyond few hours your chances are close to zero.  Most people who have been resuscitated after
extended period of time suffer brain damage with manifests itself in affected motor function, memory loss, changes in personality etc.  You get back a slightly different "you".

There is no way for someone to be raised from dead after 3 days  Wink

If someone was "raised" from dead after 3 days, that person was not dead to begin with.


OR....

The first of the race of Zombies was Jesus Christ.
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March 23, 2016, 09:40:17 PM
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From a scientific point of view, the only one that can convince me, the theory arguing that Jesus survived the crucifixion is plausible. Even the BBC endorsed this one on a controversial documentary.

But since there are contradictions on the accounts of it, also the theory arguing that he died, his body was stole and someone convinced the other Apostles that he saw him alive or even found someone similar to took his place is also defensible. Just remember that Lukas wrote that initially two of the Apostles didn't recognized Jesus (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+24%3A13%E2%80%9324%3A31&version=ESV), something very strange, if it was just him alive "again".

But the impostor or the surviving Jesus had to take advantage of his survival and argued that it was miracle to his apostles. At least a few of them ended up death because of their believes, including Peter, James and Paul (not Paul of Tarsus, he wasn't one of the Apostles). I doubt that they would ever sacrifice their lives for a fraud. Therefore, probably, they real believed that there was a miracle on Jesus survival (check, for instance, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_and_origin_of_the_Resurrection_of_Jesus).

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