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Question: What would be the right way of dividing money in the world?
give everybody the same amount
a person decides how much he/she needs and takes it
the more you work the more you get

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March 01, 2016, 08:47:00 AM
 #1

Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

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March 01, 2016, 08:49:48 AM
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In order for people to be equal then all people should be able to do the same as well.
It seem not right to see an uneducated person having a salary that is equal to a very educated person ho has a lot to bring for the society. Think of it.

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March 01, 2016, 09:12:45 AM
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To be equal in anything is unfortunetely just a dream. Especialy when we are talking about money. There will be always people who will have more then they need and those who doesn't have for a decent living. And nobody can change that.

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March 01, 2016, 09:57:17 AM
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There will be no equality when greed takes over people's mind. They often take advantage of other's weaknesses. In the end, those who work hard will not prosper while those greedy people will earn more money.

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March 01, 2016, 12:15:18 PM
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I voted for "the more you work the more you get" option, but I was wrong. Working not necessary means production or services for others benefit. Unfortunately positive contributions are not easy to measure. An artist can have more positive effect on people in two minutes than an accountant in 8 hours, however in most cases the accountant makes the more important work.
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March 01, 2016, 12:23:34 PM
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I believe that people who work as hard as they do should receive a higher money unlike people who are not taking serious work or lesser work should be paid less in money, even they are instances that rates may follow due to education gained by the person. Knowledge and skills by the person is also a plus factor for the person to paid higher in money..

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March 01, 2016, 12:30:15 PM
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Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

You don't have to imagine: something like that was tried in the real world after the U.S.S.R. imploded. When it came time to desocialize, the new Russian government decided that the best way was to issue shares in State-owned enterprises to everyone. It was like a gigantic "Free and Fair Distribution" experiment - and it had the same results.

Most of the folks who got their shares said, "Yay! Free money!" and sold their shares for whatever they could get. The biggest buyers with the most liquid bids - those folks were the first oligarchs.

"Pareto's Law" lives. What was interesting about the '14 Free-And-Fair fad is that it showed why Pareto's Principle worked. The ones who "scooped up all the money" were a mixture of bad and good, but what they had in common was that they were more future-oriented.

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March 01, 2016, 12:37:35 PM
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I voted for "the more you work the more you get" option, but I was wrong. Working not necessary means production or services for others benefit. Unfortunately positive contributions are not easy to measure. An artist can have more positive effect on people in two minutes than an accountant in 8 hours, however in most cases the accountant makes the more important work.

That touches on the reason why I didn't vote at all. We live in a largely business-oriented society, so we know at some level that hard work does not necessarily translate into value added. Of course, we also know at some level that "value added" is in the mind of the valuers, which gives an open door to scammers and other folks that are good with mind games.

Unfortunately, social systems are something like that mythical manure pile. If you're not living near one, it smells musky and exotic - but if you're actually living in a particular one...

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March 01, 2016, 12:43:06 PM
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There is no realistic method to distribute money on people equally. Who or what will trust to do so ? A government? Which in most cases are full of corruption? So I believe in the more you work the more you get. And work smart not hard Wink
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March 01, 2016, 02:46:09 PM
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Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?
i'm a worker,i get form what i do,i agree with "the more you work the more you get" . i think everybody must be struggle for what they need and they want,this world will full of hard work.

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March 01, 2016, 05:37:35 PM
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You can't just simple divide money in the world.
You can give away just money you have, your own money.
If you think about government and public money, you have to be aware that most countries in the world are in debts, and, in fact, asking for financial help and money from financial institutions and banks.
In some countries, like Switzerland, appeared idea about Guaranteed personal income.
It will be basic income for all people in the country, and will replace all social benefits and assistance from the state.
Swiss people rejected this idea on the referendum, but this possibility is much more realistic, and possible for rich countries like Switzerland, than your idea without explanation how to divide money in the real life.

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March 02, 2016, 08:01:40 AM
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There is still a problem with "the more you work the more you get", because we don't take into consideration how hard the work is.. One might be writing screenplays for 5 hours and another one - constructing details for vehicles. Should they get the same amount of money?

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March 02, 2016, 08:16:41 AM
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There is still a problem with "the more you work the more you get", because we don't take into consideration how hard the work is.. One might be writing screenplays for 5 hours and another one - constructing details for vehicles. Should they get the same amount of money?
No of course not.   The poll is kind of a silly one.  The capitalist system,  with free markets, is a good one I think.  Maybe something better will come along eventually but it rewards hard work and creativity in business abd relies less on government than socialism.

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March 02, 2016, 08:17:33 AM
Last edit: March 02, 2016, 08:27:42 AM by Moloch
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I would do a little of each option...

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Everyone, including children,  gets 1 credit per day

Depending on the skill level of your job and number of hours worked, you get paid another 1-10 per day for labor

A percentage of the coins mined each day are used for budget/project proposals... Which anyone can create and vote on, similar to Dash
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March 02, 2016, 09:16:43 AM
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Absolutely "the more you work, the more you earn"
Because this way is more justice. But rich should help poor. Life doesn't give same good opportunities to everyone.
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March 02, 2016, 09:33:29 AM
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The more effort the more profit. It should be as long government is smart then its a profit.
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March 02, 2016, 02:52:47 PM
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Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?
if we are going to be experimental we can give all the people the same amount and see what will be the results,in my opinion the hard worker and the business minded will have more of it ..

While the other will just squander it ..

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March 02, 2016, 07:01:41 PM
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Off course more money should be given to hard working leople who deserves that money... Because even if you give equal money to all, the one who is careless will spend all his money and wont work at all.. While the harworking and intelligent people doubles or even triples the money...

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March 02, 2016, 07:09:48 PM
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Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?
if we are going to be experimental we can give all the people the same amount and see what will be the results,in my opinion the hard worker and the business minded will have more of it ..

While the other will just squander it ..
That would be very dangerous experiment.
If all peeps get eaven amout of chash that money will be worth absolute zero.
All the products would get very expensive, revelant to money given for free.
Money are like any other goods if theres to much of them in use, their value drops.

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March 02, 2016, 09:54:51 PM
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you have to believe that live is unfair. money can not distributed equally between people because if that happen, noone will do his work and money will be useless. So everyone have to work hard in order to earn some money
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