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March 03, 2016, 04:07:21 PM
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It still doesnt change the fact that cryptodevil abused the trust system by the use of blackmailing through his PSA...


Hello dumbfuck, please go google the meaning of the word 'blackmail' and explain how I am profiting from introducing a consequence to user participation in ponzi threads.

Then, once you realise you can't, kindly go fuck yourself.


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March 03, 2016, 04:13:23 PM
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It still doesnt change the fact that cryptodevil abused the trust system by the use of blackmailing through his PSA...


Hello dumbfuck, please go google the meaning of the word 'blackmail' and explain how I am profiting from introducing a consequence to user participation in ponzi threads.

Then, once you realise you can't, kindly go fuck yourself.




Hello there cryptodevil...

Would you mind answering this question...


Please educate me more...
Isnt taking a fee from scammer to use TOR/VPN to do their deeds here a direct cooperation to the said scam...
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March 03, 2016, 04:22:55 PM
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What you actually mean when you ask,
Would you mind answering this question...
Is, "Would you mind answering this irrelevant red herring question because I have absolutely no concept of logical fallacy and fail at intellectual honesty".

Isnt taking a fee from scammer to use TOR/VPN to do their deeds here a direct cooperation to the said scam...

Prove that everybody who exits a TOR/VPN point at a previously marked IP is a scammer then I'll answer whether taking money from users who opt to pay the fee in order to use this forum under those conditions is tantamount to collaborating with scammers.

You clearly believe yourself to be significantly smarter than your words are proving you to be. Please, go and read this book and, once you understand about critical thinking and objective argument, report back and acknowledge that, so far in this discussion, you have displayed none. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_and_Crooked_Thinking

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March 03, 2016, 04:29:50 PM
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Isnt taking a fee from scammer to use TOR/VPN to do their deeds here a direct cooperation to the said scam...

Prove that everybody who exits a TOR/VPN point at a previously marked IP is a scammer then I'll answer whether taking money from users who opt to pay the fee in order to use this forum under those conditions is tantamount to collaborating with scammers.

Still you didnt answer the question,you just asked another question...

Im just basing my question to the fact that this forum is taking a fee from scammers...

Again,do you mind answering the question?..
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March 03, 2016, 04:37:03 PM
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Im just basing my question to the fact that this forum is taking a fee from scammers...

Again,do you mind answering the question?..

No, you are not basing your question on a fact, you are basing it on an unsupported assumption and demanding that it be treated as proven fact.

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March 03, 2016, 04:44:42 PM
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Im just basing my question to the fact that this forum is taking a fee from scammers...

Again,do you mind answering the question?..

No, you are not basing your question on a fact, you are basing it on an unsupported assumption and demanding that it be treated as proven fact.



Yes it is a fact its not unsupported assumption...
How did you ever get to your position without knowing that?..

Again,would you mind answering the question and lets stick to that question...

Please educate me more...
Isnt taking a fee from scammer to use TOR/VPN to do their deeds here a direct cooperation to the said scam...

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March 03, 2016, 04:54:15 PM
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Yes it is a fact its not unsupported assumption...
How did you ever get to your position without knowing that?..

Just as much as you *know* it to be a fact, I *know* it to be false. So, how do you think we should proceed from this point in?

*raises hand*
I know! I know!

How about you actually offer up some fucking evidence for your baseless assumption? You claim that ALL people who encounter the message that their IP has been flagged as previously being involved in wrongdoing are also scammers, yes? Prove it.

(Hint: You know how I *know* your claim is utter bullshit? Cos I've paid that fee before when circumstances caused me to have to ask a discrete question through a TOR connection without anybody knowing who I was and I know I wasn't scamming anyone. So, you know fuck you and your stupid assumptions)

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March 03, 2016, 04:57:18 PM
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Yes it is a fact its not unsupported assumption...
How did you ever get to your position without knowing that?..

Just as much as you *know* it to be a fact, I *know* it to be false. So, how do you think we should proceed from this point in?

*raises hand*
I know! I know!

How about you actually offer up some fucking evidence for your baseless assumption? You claim that ALL people who encounter the message that their IP has been flagged as previously being involved in wrongdoing are also scammers, yes? Prove it.

(Hint: You know how I *know* your claim is utter bullshit? Cos I've paid that fee before when circumstances caused me to have to ask a discrete question through a TOR connection without anybody knowing who I was and I know I wasn't scamming anyone. So, you know fuck you and your stupid assumptions)


Still you didnt answer the question,you just asked another question...

Again,would you mind answering the question and lets stick to that question...

Please educate me more...
Isnt taking a fee from scammer to use TOR/VPN to do their deeds here a direct cooperation to the said scam...
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March 03, 2016, 05:03:14 PM
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Repeating the same bullshit assumption over and over doesn't make it any less of the bullshit assumption it is.

I've logically explained why your bullshit assumption is false, now you have to try and prove why it is not. You will fail.

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March 03, 2016, 05:06:38 PM
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Repeating the same bullshit assumption over and over doesn't make it any less of the bullshit assumption it is.

I've logically explained why your bullshit assumption is false, now you have to try and prove why it is not. You will fail.


Still you didnt answer the question,you clearly trying to save yourself and blindedly not accepting the fact that scammers are using TOR/VPN to do their deeds here...

Again,would you mind answering the question and lets stick to that question...

Please educate me more...
Isnt taking a fee from scammer to use TOR/VPN to do their deeds here a direct cooperation to the said scam...
Your Point Is Invalid
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March 03, 2016, 05:18:16 PM
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Repeating the same bullshit assumption over and over doesn't make it any less of the bullshit assumption it is.

I've logically explained why your bullshit assumption is false, now you have to try and prove why it is not. You will fail.


Still you didnt answer the question,you clearly trying to save yourself and blindedly not accepting the fact that scammers are using TOR/VPN to do their deeds here...

Again,would you mind answering the question and lets stick to that question...

Please educate me more...
Isnt taking a fee from scammer to use TOR/VPN to do their deeds here a direct cooperation to the said scam...

The forum uses the fee to stop people from spamming and creating multiple accounts for spamming, it has nothing to do with scamming

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March 03, 2016, 05:34:03 PM
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Repeating the same bullshit assumption over and over doesn't make it any less of the bullshit assumption it is.

I've logically explained why your bullshit assumption is false, now you have to try and prove why it is not. You will fail.


Still you didnt answer the question,you clearly trying to save yourself and blindedly not accepting the fact that scammers are using TOR/VPN to do their deeds here...

Again,would you mind answering the question and lets stick to that question...

Please educate me more...
Isnt taking a fee from scammer to use TOR/VPN to do their deeds here a direct cooperation to the said scam...

The forum uses the fee to stop people from spamming and creating multiple accounts for spamming, it has nothing to do with scamming


Spamming is connected to scamming when it comes to signature campaign and other services...
And spamming your own thread that you are offering a good service is also a scam to make it look legit...


I would like to go back to the said question...
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March 03, 2016, 05:36:00 PM
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I would like to go back to the said question...

Yeah, we know.

Trouble is, even in the face of proof that your assumption is not proven fact, you keep repeating it as though it were.

You *really* suck at this.


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March 03, 2016, 05:40:13 PM
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I would like to go back to the said question...

Yeah, we know.

Trouble is, even in the face of proof that your assumption is not proven fact, you keep repeating it as though it were.

You *really* suck at this.




Sorry if i suck at this...

Still you didnt answer the question,you clearly trying to save yourself and blindedly not accepting the fact that scammers are using TOR/VPN to do their deeds here...

Again,would you mind answering the question and lets stick to that question...

Please educate me more...
Isnt taking a fee from scammer to use TOR/VPN to do their deeds here a direct cooperation to the said scam...
Your Point Is Invalid
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March 03, 2016, 05:42:22 PM
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Repeating the same bullshit assumption over and over doesn't make it any less of the bullshit assumption it is.

I've logically explained why your bullshit assumption is false, now you have to try and prove why it is not. You will fail.


Still you didnt answer the question,you clearly trying to save yourself and blindedly not accepting the fact that scammers are using TOR/VPN to do their deeds here...

Again,would you mind answering the question and lets stick to that question...

Please educate me more...
Isnt taking a fee from scammer to use TOR/VPN to do their deeds here a direct cooperation to the said scam...

The forum uses the fee to stop people from spamming and creating multiple accounts for spamming, it has nothing to do with scamming


Spamming is connected to scamming when it comes to signature campaign and other services...
And spamming your own thread that you are offering a good service is also a scam to make it look legit...


I would like to go back to the said question...

So all spammers are scammers?

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March 03, 2016, 05:46:56 PM
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Repeating the same bullshit assumption over and over doesn't make it any less of the bullshit assumption it is.

I've logically explained why your bullshit assumption is false, now you have to try and prove why it is not. You will fail.


Still you didnt answer the question,you clearly trying to save yourself and blindedly not accepting the fact that scammers are using TOR/VPN to do their deeds here...

Again,would you mind answering the question and lets stick to that question...

Please educate me more...
Isnt taking a fee from scammer to use TOR/VPN to do their deeds here a direct cooperation to the said scam...

The forum uses the fee to stop people from spamming and creating multiple accounts for spamming, it has nothing to do with scamming


Spamming is connected to scamming when it comes to signature campaign and other services...
And spamming your own thread that you are offering a good service is also a scam to make it look legit...


I would like to go back to the said question...

So all spammers are scammers?

Why would you even spam?..

Please i would like to go back to the question stated...
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March 04, 2016, 07:16:34 AM
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Please i would like to go back to the question stated...

Yes, we *know* you believe it to be the most awesome claim of 'fact' ever. Trouble is, you keep ignoring all the evidence being presented to you which clearly explains why you are mistaken.
If you access BCT through TOR, you will probably get the same message. It doesn't mean you're a scammer, it means the IP of the exit point you are accessing the forum through has been flagged for previous dodgy behaviour. Should all users be banned from using BCT if they unfortunately come from the same IP address as a scammer?

You *do* know, right, that some people access this forum from oppressive regimes where a direct link is blocked? So they have to use TOR.

You *do* know this, right?

Please tell me you aren't so fucking moronic as you are repeatedly proving yourself to be.


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March 05, 2016, 06:15:45 AM
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The Question was...

Please educate me more...
Isnt taking a fee from scammer to use TOR/VPN to do their deeds here a direct cooperation to the said scam...

Your answer were...

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If you access BCT through TOR, you will probably get the same message. It doesn't mean you're a scammer, it means the IP of the exit point you are accessing the forum through has been flagged for previous dodgy behaviour. Should all users be banned from using BCT if they unfortunately come from the same IP address as a scammer?

Besides, the point is still moot as highlighting the untrustworthy behaviour of others does not assuage your own. This argument point is thus rendered invalid.

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Prove that everybody who exits a TOR/VPN point at a previously marked IP is a scammer then I'll answer whether taking money from users who opt to pay the fee in order to use this forum under those conditions is tantamount to collaborating with scammers.

You clearly believe yourself to be significantly smarter than your words are proving you to be. Please, go and read this book and, once you understand about critical thinking and objective argument, report back and acknowledge that, so far in this discussion, you have displayed none. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_and_Crooked_Thinking


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No, you are not basing your question on a fact, you are basing it on an unsupported assumption and demanding that it be treated as proven fact.

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How about you actually offer up some fucking evidence for your baseless assumption? You claim that ALL people who encounter the message that their IP has been flagged as previously being involved in wrongdoing are also scammers, yes? Prove it.

(Hint: You know how I *know* your claim is utter bullshit? Cos I've paid that fee before when circumstances caused me to have to ask a discrete question through a TOR connection without anybody knowing who I was and I know I wasn't scamming anyone. So, you know fuck you and your stupid assumptions)

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Repeating the same bullshit assumption over and over doesn't make it any less of the bullshit assumption it is.

I've logically explained why your bullshit assumption is false, now you have to try and prove why it is not. You will fail.

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Yeah, we know.

Trouble is, even in the face of proof that your assumption is not proven fact, you keep repeating it as though it were.

You *really* suck at this.

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You *do* know, right, that some people access this forum from oppressive regimes where a direct link is blocked? So they have to use TOR.

You *do* know this, right?

Please tell me you aren't so fucking moronic as you are repeatedly proving yourself to be.


Now please educate me...
Which one of your answer stated above answer the question?..
Your are clearly denying the fact here to save yourself by blindly and accepting the fact...

Now please can you educate me...
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March 05, 2016, 08:25:54 AM
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The Question was...

Please educate me more...
Isnt taking a fee from scammer to use TOR/VPN to do their deeds here a direct cooperation to the said scam...

Your answer were...
-snip-
Now please can you educate me...

Evil points are not given to scammers[1], as scams are not against the forum rules. Evil points are given to spammers. Your assumption is false.

[1] obviously the points are not give to accounts or persons, but the IP addresses they used at the time as well as their network range.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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March 05, 2016, 09:03:14 AM
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The Question was...

Please educate me more...
Isnt taking a fee from scammer to use TOR/VPN to do their deeds here a direct cooperation to the said scam...

Your answer were...
-snip-
Now please can you educate me...

Evil points are not given to scammers[1], as scams are not against the forum rules. Evil points are given to spammers. Your assumption is false.

[1] obviously the points are not give to accounts or persons, but the IP addresses they used at the time as well as their network range.


Please educate me...

Lets say i want to open a thread,lets say a HYIP/Ponzi,then i bought an account here and also created some new accounts...
As i use TOR/VPN(as the IP addresses i used is flagged) so i payed for it to do my deeds here and my intention is to scam people here,now i spam my thread to gain money from unexpected victim...
Can my assumption be false?..
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