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March 03, 2016, 04:03:09 PM
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The Altcoin Discussion forum has become so dominated with Ethereum pump threads, that it no longer resembles any sort of rationally balanced discussion forum. It is difficult to even find altcoin discussion any more.

Also these pump threads are entirely devoid of any technological justification, as the progenitors of these threads are technologically illiterate.

Shouldn't we just make a new subforum titled "Ethereum To Da Moon" and everything related to how Ethereum is going to replace Bitcoin and is going to the moon can go there? Which should be the majority of recent thread bumps.

Then the quieter Altcoin Discussion forum can remain for the rest of the diversity of altcoin discussion.

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March 03, 2016, 04:08:09 PM
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Self moderated thread lol.

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Self moderated thread lol.

Well done.

Admission of desire to troll squelched by rational decision as quoted. Thanks.

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Must have paid a lot of users to actually post these Hiyp daily. Must have learned some psycho marketing to which if we kept reading all these hype over and over it will eventually happen.


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March 03, 2016, 04:13:52 PM
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I've deleted the same post from stoat 4 times. If he repeats this, I will report to the moderator. Perhaps stoat isn't aware that repeated violations of self-moderated threads is grounds for being banned from the forum.

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March 03, 2016, 04:16:25 PM
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I've now deleted 6 of stoat's posts trolling of this thread. Changing the wording slightly is still a violation of self-moderation. One more time, and I will report to the moderator.

Are they not satisfied with all their dozens of pump threads, that they feel they can violate the forum and not allow others to have their own self-moderated opinion threads.

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March 03, 2016, 04:18:50 PM
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I have now deleted 9 of stoat's panic-stricken trolling posts, as he frantically tries to control all threads related to Ethereum with his inability to make any technological argument whatsoever.

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March 03, 2016, 04:24:11 PM
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Sent to following request to the moderator as stoat continues to violate forum policy even after I have warned (informed) him.

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I've deleted 12 of stoat's trolling posts in my self-moderated thread over the past 15 minutes. He won't respect self-moderation.

I know there is a forum policy that you ban users who habitually and repeatedly spam the self-moderator.


I've now deleted 6 of stoat's trolling of this thread. Changing the wording slightly is still a violation of self-moderation. One more time, and I will report to the moderator.

Are they not satisfied with all their dozens of pump threads, that they feel they can violate the forum and not allow others to have their own self-moderated opinion threads.
i didnt change the wording slightly, i came from a whole new angle.  Whats the point dude?  You pissed off about your private life?  Ethereum did nothing to you apart from show massive gains which you are sour graping.

Btw, the above post is entirely off-topic. This thread is not about me, nor about whether Ether is a great smoke. It is about whether Ether pumps are drowning out the other discussion of altcoins and thus Ether has become "important" (pumped) enough to have its very own (non-technical, circle jerk) subforum.

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March 03, 2016, 04:24:56 PM
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I'd only be willing to accept a new Ethereum forum if TPTB is the sole moderator for that forum. Otherwise, it will just be full of trolls.
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March 03, 2016, 04:27:07 PM
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I'd only be willing to accept a new Ethereum forum if TPTB is the sole moderator for that forum. Otherwise, it will just be full of trolls.

It is better to let Ethereum have their own echo chamber where the pumpers can jack off and fist fuck each other. No need to moderate it, let the semen and feces fly all over it.

Those speculators who want to be hoodwinked will be able to focus very well on how to become a greater fool in the exclusive "Ether to Da Moon" subforum. Those speculators who want to be free of the Ether noise won't have to wade through the dozens of circle-jerk threads to find discussion of altcoins.

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March 03, 2016, 04:44:23 PM
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Hmm, but it just wouldn't be much fun without you there to interject some sense into the conversation.
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March 03, 2016, 04:56:07 PM
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Yes let's do it. Although I gave in and grabbed a few in the last week. I still think the level of Eth "discussion" on the main board is way out of whack. Will eth make a billion this week...will eth buy microsoft in the next month...will eth be the adopted currency of alien races ..

A few other coins seem to try and dominate the main discussion board too. Thankfully Dash have stfu for 5 mins.

Best get an I OWN TONS ASSHOLES board ready too. I already sense the lid bubbling away ready to explode on to the main board with the next wave of pumpers willing to part with a few for 10000000x ico price. Thankfully the mods have been moving those ones to the marketing section for now.





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March 03, 2016, 05:03:50 PM
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Off-topic:

Although I gave in and grabbed a few in the last week.

The way the pump works is the insiders buy from themselves to pump up volume and price, which causes jealous speculators to capitulate. They never buy back your coins that you bought from the insiders. Instead, you can only sell when there are more greater fools like yourself who are fooled by the pump of volume and price.

The true liquidity is probably less than $million (and thus true market cap is only a few $millions at best), and once the rate of new fools is less than those who want to take profits, then it crashes. Then they pump it up again buying from themselves and start the process again.

I believe this is actually illegal under SEC regulations because they are marketing this to USA investors. I will be researching this and posting about it another thread. I believe also this forum could be found culpable and if were Theymos I would make sure I had consulted an attorney.

Personally I wouldn't touch ETH with a 100 foot pole because of the potential of being tied up in some future mass investigation (not that would normally make sense but...). I fear the governments are going bezerk due to bankruptcy and they will use any excuse to tie people up in audits and other crap from 2017 onwards.

It just isn't worth it. Any one buying little morsels of a scam is just not very wise. If you are going to buy ETH you should be doing it large size to make it worth your risk, but then you should only risk what you can afford to lose and remember the insiders will not let you compete with them.

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Off-topic:

Although I gave in and grabbed a few in the last week.

The way the pump works is the insiders buy from themselves to pump up volume and price, which causes jealous speculators to capitulate. They never buy back your coins that you bought from the insiders. Instead, you can only sell when there are more greater fools like yourself who are fooled by the pump of volume and price.

The truth liquidity is probably less than $million, and once the rate of new fools is less than those who want to take profits, then it crashes. Then they pump it up again buying from themselves and start the process again.

I believe this is actually illegal under SEC regulations because they are marketing this to USA investors. I will be researching this and posting about it another thread. I believe also this forum could be found culpable and if were Theymos I would make sure I had consulted an attorney.

Personally I wouldn't touch ETH with a 100 foot pole because of the potential of being tied up in some future mass investigation (not that would normally make sense but...). I fear the governments are going bezerk due to bankruptcy and they will use any excuse to tie people up in audits and other crap from 2017 onwards.

It just isn't worth it. Any one buying little morsels of a scam is just not very wise. If you are going to buy ETH you should be doing it large size to make it worth your risk, but then you should only risk what you can afford to lose and remember the insiders will not let you compete with them.


Although you could well be correct . I think it is still very possible to weave in and out and make returns. For instance to weave in at $6 and out at $9 is still a return that I can use for other things.





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March 03, 2016, 05:20:28 PM
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Although you could well be correct . I think it is still very possible to weave in and out and make returns. For instance to weave in at $6 and out at $9 is still a return that I can use for other things.

Everyone has a different risk assessment. If you ever been through an IRS audit (as I have), your assessment might change.

But then again, my (healthy) potential is so high that I normally don't even consider to fiddle with small gains especially when I consider the opportunity cost of losing precious time to nonsense (audit). So I have to be reminded (by AltcoinUK and others) that others (not you) are speculating with their lunch money.

I guess my posts should be taken to light mostly by the serious investor with significant net worth who would be very risk adverse to inviting unnecessary trouble.

Yeah for the person operating with 50 BTC, then yeah they throw caution to the wind and try to weave in and out competing against the greater fools who are little bit too slow and/or wide-eyed (To Da Moon believers).

Btw, this is more evidence that the SEC should be regulating this because we have naive, undercapitalized (not sophisticated, $million liquid net worth) investors (as required by SEC regulations). Not that I am advocating it, rather just stating what I think the law says.

Remember the government regulates crime so it can have a monopoly on doing crime, e.g. it regulates drugs so those connected to the government can run drugs and launder drug money. Ditto investment securities. Since we can't control ourselves (because we are naive, undercapitalized speculators), then the government has to control it for us (and then legalize the insiders who then have to be connected to the government). It is a winner take all paradigm because who ever has stronger power within the government prosecutes those who have weaker power.

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March 03, 2016, 06:02:10 PM
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Yes makes sense. Different people...different potential/circumstances/position.....different risk/gain/cost..........different choice.
I understand how those with more to lose would act differently.


Anyway back to topic. Didn't mean to rail road the thread.





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March 03, 2016, 08:30:15 PM
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Haven't seen any Ethereum pump threads. Isn't it more likely that there are more threads because this fantastic technology has great utility and is making the news?
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March 04, 2016, 12:05:37 AM
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Haven't seen any Ethereum pump threads. Isn't it more likely that there are more threads because this fantastic technology has great utility and is making the news?

You are either a liar, haven't read the Ethereum Paradox thread, or are technologically illiterate. Which is it?

In any case, I and others think we should give you your own silly, exclusive "Ethereum To Da Moon" circle-jerk masturbation, lunch money grabbing subforum where you can share your dysfunction with others who are as dysfunctional as you are. "Hey ma, this is easier than stealing candy from toddlers".

And stop annoying and spamming us who are serious and technologically literate. And stop you idiots from making a mockery of the Altcoin Discussion subforum and a mockery of block chain technology, research, and development. You'd have your very own subforum which you can turn into the idiotic and embarrassing, juvenile fuck fest you desire.

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March 04, 2016, 03:10:55 AM
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I'm honestly not sure whether to be gob smacked or laugh at what this thread has devolved into!  Shocked

I PM'ed r0ach and told him I would grateful if he would close the thread. With 25 year olds trolling this forum from their mobile devices while masturbating to porn in the comfortable of their moma's sofabed, I don't think there can be any mature technological discussion.

It is pointless to attempt to discuss technology and attempt to inform others while also sharing and learning from each other.

With all the vaporware and hyped technological delusion that populates the altcoin arena (and that includes your eMunie and my vaporcoin), those projects with actual currently best-of-class implementation get drowned out when they attempt be respectful and less noisy as they have been lately (e.g. Monero).

If anything the $15 million Ethereum has wasted would ostensibly have produced more if it had been invested in Monero so the community could donate more to developers to improve it.

In the real world of stock securities, normally companies have to produce something with the first round of funding. But in this manipulated reality where the insiders control the float and can do insider trading without facing the jail time that normally accompanies such practices, then all sense of reality is lost and we are back to laissez-faire 1800s where snake oil salesmen regularly defrauded the unwary.

All those buying ETH and along for the ride attempting to defraud their brothers who are less savvy, are not in this arena to better our society and each other by rewarding production and a meritocracy, but rather to steal from each other just as Socialism taught them to do. This is a dysfunctional society that will crash and burn.

If some random 25 year old thinks he can beat up a 51 year old man, I will make an example of him about the way men used to be and the way she-men are now. If stoat was even half the athlete that is required to beat me up, he wouldn't write like a scared bitch. Just like that 190cm foreigner in the mall the other day who tried to fuck with me in the line of grocery store here in Davao and I challenged him to step outside and he was shivering in his fucking boots because he suddenly realized he was dealing with something he did not expect, when I got right in his face eyes-to-eyes. He looked into my eyes and realized this is the real world.

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