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[jc12345]

It looks like people are unhappy about the length of the ICO because they want to cash out their profits quickly. It seems like many people have this expectation. I hope there will be enoigh buyers to pay for these profits to realise.

[mxxxxxx]

Everything right, but you miSSed one important point! waves will be traded after ICO on a unique market place and than after several weeks it will hit a exchange without any breath. What do you think will happen?

I think it will cost ten times lower, somewhere about... well, if it is 85 000 000 supply then maybe 0.00000123 sats... I'm asking myself why I just spent more than 1.3 bitcoins to buy some small decreasing sum of waves?
Explain me why I'm wrong!

Honestly, no one's going to convince you to purchase. That ball's in your court. If you don't invest now, GREAT! More for us!

Well I'm already invested. I understand that everything is possible and took a risk. But why everybody is so optimistic? As for what is usually happens, there's a big chance that waves will be traded for months at ten or maybe thirty times lower price. I'd like someone to convince me that won't happen, especially because I bought waves today myself.

Let me clearyfy my point and view as a investor.

I dont see that anybody here will make a big roi in the next 12 months, the most of all thinks it will be like ethereum or iota or what ever, but it wont happen. From the perspective of a short profit maker its a mistake to take part, because your BTC are parked for a long time and during this time there are much more possibilities, and after the ico there will not be so many new buyers.

I will invest too, but to a later point. And the only reason why i invest is James and kushti, i think theire involvement with all theire experiences will make it to a success. The whole concept to focus on financial needs is a good one, and is totaly different to eth or lisk which are focused on dapps. This project has another targets and is unique atm. I could also imagine to swap totaly from NXT to Waves, because of all availabilitys that waves is promising, but this is another story. I think that Assets like Supernet could profit huge from waves as a new plattform. So, when i invest in this this project, than not of looking any short profit (which wont happen obviously) , i will invest because i believe that the whole concept will have a future with sasha and tosh as leaders with a vision, and this should be the exactly reason to invest.

Randombit, Kushti-Alexander is NOT a team member.
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Read hear:
" kushti is here (writing from a some place in Russia, yes).
First, some historical points. Scorex was started in Nov, 2014 as kinda funny project. To that moment, I spent few months working for Nxt. As you may know, Nxt prevents forking with closing code not released into production yet and also by somewhat terrible licensing(since 1.5?). Anyway, it has a lot of forks, and some of them with very interesting ideas (e.g. BURST).
To have thing open to the extreme I've published Scorex under CC0(Public Domain) license, so everyone can do literally anything with the code.
Since last autumn development of Scorex is subsidized by IOHK, and since Feb I'm a Research Fellow and Scorex project director in IOHK Research.
Well, Scorex(as well as papers publicly published) could be used in any project. That surely does not mean collaboration with IOHK. However, we would like to get issues on core functionality to be reported to resolve and also (and especially) pull requests. 
Me & Sasha, Charles & Sasha, and three of us had some conversations after Sasha's decision to build Waves on top of Scorex. No any collaboration has been established to the moment as a result. And that is surely up to Charles.
I do not endorse neither oppose Waves ICO. I do not have much technical details, and I'm not competent in other topics. "
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SOURCE:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434851.msg14519405#msg14519405

"IOHK Research and Scorex ARE NOT collaborating with Waves. We do NOT endorse their project nor crowdsale"

That`s correct, Waves is being built on top of the Scorex framework like stated from the start which is opensourced and can be used by any project.

All core team developers will be presented soon.

Leave politics to us please.

[rtrtcrypto]

Thanks for this, between this and the website not working - I'm out 100%.
Good luck.

Everything right, but you miSSed one important point! waves will be traded after ICO on a unique market place and than after several weeks it will hit a exchange without any breath. What do you think will happen?

I think it will cost ten times lower, somewhere about... well, if it is 85 000 000 supply then maybe 0.00000123 sats... I'm asking myself why I just spent more than 1.3 bitcoins to buy some small decreasing sum of waves?
Explain me why I'm wrong!

Honestly, no one's going to convince you to purchase. That ball's in your court. If you don't invest now, GREAT! More for us!

Well I'm already invested. I understand that everything is possible and took a risk. But why everybody is so optimistic? As for what is usually happens, there's a big chance that waves will be traded for months at ten or maybe thirty times lower price. I'd like someone to convince me that won't happen, especially because I bought waves today myself.

Let me clearyfy my point and view as a investor.

I dont see that anybody here will make a big roi in the next 12 months, the most of all thinks it will be like ethereum or iota or what ever, but it wont happen. From the perspective of a short profit maker its a mistake to take part, because your BTC are parked for a long time and during this time there are much more possibilities, and after the ico there will not be so many new buyers.

I will invest too, but to a later point. And the only reason why i invest is James and kushti, i think theire involvement with all theire experiences will make it to a success. The whole concept to focus on financial needs is a good one, and is totaly different to eth or lisk which are focused on dapps. This project has another targets and is unique atm. I could also imagine to swap totaly from NXT to Waves, because of all availabilitys that waves is promising, but this is another story. I think that Assets like Supernet could profit huge from waves as a new plattform. So, when i invest in this this project, than not of looking any short profit (which wont happen obviously) , i will invest because i believe that the whole concept will have a future with sasha and tosh as leaders with a vision, and this should be the exactly reason to invest.

Randombit, Kushti-Alexander is NOT a team member.
------------
Read hear:
" kushti is here (writing from a some place in Russia, yes).
First, some historical points. Scorex was started in Nov, 2014 as kinda funny project. To that moment, I spent few months working for Nxt. As you may know, Nxt prevents forking with closing code not released into production yet and also by somewhat terrible licensing(since 1.5?). Anyway, it has a lot of forks, and some of them with very interesting ideas (e.g. BURST).
To have thing open to the extreme I've published Scorex under CC0(Public Domain) license, so everyone can do literally anything with the code.
Since last autumn development of Scorex is subsidized by IOHK, and since Feb I'm a Research Fellow and Scorex project director in IOHK Research.
Well, Scorex(as well as papers publicly published) could be used in any project. That surely does not mean collaboration with IOHK. However, we would like to get issues on core functionality to be reported to resolve and also (and especially) pull requests. 
Me & Sasha, Charles & Sasha, and three of us had some conversations after Sasha's decision to build Waves on top of Scorex. No any collaboration has been established to the moment as a result. And that is surely up to Charles.
I do not endorse neither oppose Waves ICO. I do not have much technical details, and I'm not competent in other topics. "
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SOURCE:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434851.msg14519405#msg14519405

"IOHK Research and Scorex ARE NOT collaborating with Waves. We do NOT endorse their project nor crowdsale"

That`s correct, Waves is being built on top of the Scorex framework like stated from the start which is opensourced and can be used by any project.

All core team developers will be presented soon.

Leave politics to us please.

[kame]

by the way, just curiosity, why you named "WAVES". What's the idea of name come from? dev?

[mxxxxxx]

Nothing happens. Still tells me my password is too short and gives ERROR.

Tried to sign on to buy - some error on the site says my password needs to be 8 characters long (it is over 30 characters) and gives me an ERROR. Since the team can't seem to put together a website that works for a trivial login I will pass.

Procedure was updated in meantime, now you are setting password by yourself first, please use the new email address if you are using the same one from yesterday.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1387944.msg14523316#msg14523316

Hmm, important is what you did before new procedure was implemented. Check if you didn`t receive email to spam and if old activation email isn`t hanging somewhere there. Try to remember also if you used many emails yesterday. If you used few ones yesterday you will still need new one.

[Rem9]

by the way, just curiosity, why you named "WAVES". What's the idea of name come from? dev?

Once the price inreases and heads up everyone waves to say goodbye as it goes to da moooooooooon!

No?

[Kotone]

by the way, just curiosity, why you named "WAVES". What's the idea of name come from? dev?

Once the price inreases and heads up everyone waves to say goodbye as it goes to da moooooooooon!

No?

maybe because of the community nembers unstable activity, some happy some impatient but all in all we are in the same momentum.

[rtrtcrypto]

I used no emails yesterday... today was the first time I ever clicked the website. I entered email and was asked to create a password, I try and it gives me an ERROR (in multiple browsers as well).

I also do not see any emails in spam/trash/normal inbox/etc

Nothing happens. Still tells me my password is too short and gives ERROR.

Tried to sign on to buy - some error on the site says my password needs to be 8 characters long (it is over 30 characters) and gives me an ERROR. Since the team can't seem to put together a website that works for a trivial login I will pass.

Procedure was updated in meantime, now you are setting password by yourself first, please use the new email address if you are using the same one from yesterday.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1387944.msg14523316#msg14523316

Hmm, important is what you did before new procedure was implemented. Check if you didn`t receive email to spam and if old activation email isn`t hanging somewhere there. Try to remember also if you used many emails yesterday. If you used few ones yesterday you will still need new one.

[mxxxxxx]

Thanks for this, between this and the website not working - I'm out 100%.
Good luck.

Good luck to you also.

[mxxxxxx]

I used no emails yesterday... today was the first time I ever clicked the website. I entered email and was asked to create a password, I try and it gives me an ERROR (in multiple browsers as well).

I also do not see any emails in spam/trash/normal inbox/etc

Nothing happens. Still tells me my password is too short and gives ERROR.

Tried to sign on to buy - some error on the site says my password needs to be 8 characters long (it is over 30 characters) and gives me an ERROR. Since the team can't seem to put together a website that works for a trivial login I will pass.

Procedure was updated in meantime, now you are setting password by yourself first, please use the new email address if you are using the same one from yesterday.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1387944.msg14523316#msg14523316

Hmm, important is what you did before new procedure was implemented. Check if you didn`t receive email to spam and if old activation email isn`t hanging somewhere there. Try to remember also if you used many emails yesterday. If you used few ones yesterday you will still need new one.

Then you should use the password which contains more than 8 characters and you should be good to go like the rest.

[Mrdeeds]

After other ico (like Nxt, Iota, etc...) people complained loudly that they lasted a too short time or that there were too few investors. Now we have an ico with a lot of investors and long duration. People complain again. It's true you can never make everyone happy  

You cannot fight human nature. It is engrained in the DNA of our species  

Simple answer mate, We are human being satisfaction is not on our list. We just buy and buy Waaves.

I actually don't understand why people are complaining. Everybody could have known the length of this ico before they invested. They could have made the choice not to invest because of the time the ico takes. But they decided to invest, and imo one agrees with the time frame the moment one actually sends btc.
So stop complaining about it. You did agree with this yourselves.

[KawaBunGa]

by the way, just curiosity, why you named "WAVES". What's the idea of name come from? dev?

Once the price inreases and heads up everyone waves to say goodbye as it goes to da moooooooooon!

No?

No, Sasha explains it here http://bitscan.com/articles/making-waves-part-1 but I like your version too) go Waves, fly to the moon, but wait until the end of ICO, please

[goostatic74829]

After other ico (like Nxt, Iota, etc...) people complained loudly that they lasted a too short time or that there were too few investors. Now we have an ico with a lot of investors and long duration. People complain again. It's true you can never make everyone happy  

You cannot fight human nature. It is engrained in the DNA of our species  

Simple answer mate, We are human being satisfaction is not on our list. We just buy and buy Waaves.

I actually don't understand why people are complaining. Everybody could have known the length of this ico before they invested. They could have made the choice not to invest because of the time the ico takes. But they decided to invest, and imo one agrees with the time frame the moment one actually sends btc.
So stop complaining about it. You did agree with this yourselves.

People complaining because greedy

[ryanb]

Do we have speculation and what Wave price will be when we are on an exchange and not IOU?

[sandiman]

Do we have speculation and what Wave price will be when we are on an exchange and not IOU?

maybe this can help:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xxP6h3zFVtGbhmKT4yjBdRd4oC77CQ4R623TFWjA_qo/edit?usp=sharing

[kame]

by the way, just curiosity, why you named "WAVES". What's the idea of name come from? dev?

Once the price inreases and heads up everyone waves to say goodbye as it goes to da moooooooooon!

No?

No, Sasha explains it here http://bitscan.com/articles/making-waves-part-1 but I like your version too) go Waves, fly to the moon, but wait until the end of ICO, please

we must thank to LIGO Scientific Collaboration. neutrino could be an another choice would be.

thanks for the link!

[mxxxxxx]

Do we have speculation and what Wave price will be when we are on an exchange and not IOU?

maybe this can help:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xxP6h3zFVtGbhmKT4yjBdRd4oC77CQ4R623TFWjA_qo/edit?usp=sharing

Nice effort Sandiman, will go through it shortly.

[Andeze17]

Do we have speculation and what Wave price will be when we are on an exchange and not IOU?

maybe this can help:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xxP6h3zFVtGbhmKT4yjBdRd4oC77CQ4R623TFWjA_qo/edit?usp=sharing

Thank you, that was very helpful.

[mxxxxxx]

Waves Presentation from http://bitcoinconf.moscow/en

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMC6u4jMTsc

[Grahnite]

My first ICO, very excited to see where this goes! :-)