Douglus should remove cryptodevil from DT due to conflict of interest

[newtons1]

As many of you know, cryptodevil has been leaving negative trust for people that post in the ponzi section under the guise that these people are promoting a ponzi when they post in a thread about a ponzi.

What you may not have noticed is that the only reason why cryptodevil is in Default Trust is because he was added by dooglus. Douglus is the operator and sole owner of Just-Dice which competes directly with ponzis. The reason why Just-Dice competes with ponzies is because players of ponzis are gambling that the ponzi will continue to receive enough additional money to continue to pay and that the OP of the ponzi will not run away before paying out the player's stake. Players of Just-Dice are gambling that a roll will be under or over a certain number based on a complex mathematical formula.

There is a clear and concise conflict of interest here because dooglus is directly benefiting from cryptodevil leaving negative trust for anyone who plays in a ponzi. This drives people away from this form of gambling and some of these players will migrate to gambling at Just-Dice.

Furthermore cryptodevil is leaving negative trust for people who are attempting to start new types of gambling games not frequently seen in the bitcoin scene. To make matters worse, he is leaving negative trust to anyone who says that such new gambling game would be fun.

The refrence for the person attempting to start new types of gambling games not frequently seen in the bitcoin scene is a lottery game, and the refrence for the person "encouraging" people to play at this "scam" is a post of someone saying this kind of game would be fun, and even said that the game will be risky and implied it might not be "legit". This is something that has further benefited dooglus because anyone considering to play this game would be labeled a scammer, funneling potential gamblers to play at Just-Dice.





Douglus should remove cryptodevil from his trust list to prevent himself receiving undue benefit from cryptodevil's actions. If someone else believes that cryptodevil is deserving to be in Default Trust then they are free to add cryptodevil provided there is not another conflict of interest.

The strangest piece of this puzzle is that dooglus has actually given positive trust to a ponzi operator in the past for "being honest about being a ponzi" and refused to remove such positive trust even after being made aware that he left positive trust for someone who stole money from others. Maybe it was because the date of the trust was a time when Just-Dice was closed and such form of gambling would not compete with Just-Dice.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1208053.0

local rule: No discussing the merits behind leaving negative trust for people who post about playing in a ponzi -- this is already something that cryptodevil is engaging in, and cryptodevil has made it clear that he has no intention of stopping this practice.

local rule: No ad-hominem attacks

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Wecome to bitcointalk, where you get punished for not breaking the rules.  And where many rules don't make sense or don't exist.  And where your trust feedback page is a great place to get trolled.

[newtons1]

Wecome to bitcointalk, where you get punished for not breaking the rules.  And where many rules don't make sense or don't exist.  And where your trust feedback page is a great place to get trolled.

I am not saying that the people cryptodevil have left negative trust for are not scammers, nor have I said that they are scammers.

My point is that dooglus is receiving undue benefit from the negative trust that cryptodevil is leaving people in the gambling section.

[Zeke2345]

Would jump on the train but I much rather read this from your main account. Quick skim through the post history shows there is more to you as well.

Cryptodevil comes off as a troll, kind of shocked guys like that run rampant within the trust. Reflects poorly on whoever has him in their tree.

[Your Point Is Invalid]

Wecome to bitcointalk, where you get punished for not breaking the rules.  And where many rules don't make sense or don't exist.  And where your trust feedback page is a great place to get trolled.

I am not saying that the people cryptodevil have left negative trust for are not scammers, nor have I said that they are scammers.

My point is that dooglus is receiving undue benefit from the negative trust that cryptodevil is leaving people in the gambling section.

I do agree that cryptodevil's ratings are stupid and that he is acting like a dick but i dont see how his actions are benefiting dooglus, dooglus's site doesnt use bitcoin and has it's thread in the altcoin section the last time I checked

I also dont know why in the world cryptodevil is on dooglus's trust list

also: cryptodevil is someone's alt

[newtons1]

Zeke2345

Would jump on the train but I much rather read this from your main account. Quick skim through the post history shows there is more to you as well.

Who is making an argument should not influence if you agree with various points or not. You should agree and/or disagree with me based on the merits of my argument, not based on who I am.

You also don't think that cryptodevil will leave negative trust to those who call for his removal from DT?

Cryptodevil comes off as a troll, kind of shocked guys like that run rampant within the trust. Reflects poorly on whoever has him in their tree.

Cryptodevil is in dooglus's "tree" aka trust list. You can remove dooglus from your trust list by going to profile --> trust --> trust settings --> adding "~dooglus" to your trust list and clicking save

Your Point Is Invalid

I do agree that cryptodevil's ratings are stupid and that he is acting like a dick but i dont see how his actions are benefiting dooglus, dooglus's site doesnt use bitcoin and has it's thread in the altcoin section the last time I checked

It does not matter which currency Just-Dice uses, it is still gambling in the crypto-currency world. Just-Dice uses CLAM which has been on a negative trajectory recently. If more people use Just-Dice then more people will have to buy CLAM.

There are a number of exchanges that people can easily buy and sell CLAM on, so it would not be difficult to exchange BTC for CLAM and vice versa.

[Zeke2345]

You also don't think that cryptodevil will leave negative trust to those who call for his removal from DT?

Noticed he is just used to reinforce views in a dick/trollish way. Have no doubt he is up to something and would most likely come at his enemies in a diferent way. Was debating blocking him but I like watching how little he actually cares for anyone. Seems to go against his whole rent a cop vibe.

[mexxer-2]

local rule: No ad-hominem attacks

Isn't this whole thread an ad hominem attack against doog and CD?

I believe OP is trying to discredit dooglus here, and CD is just being a thorn in the way and an opportunity at the same time

Also nice way of implementing the Local thread rule

Edit: You'll need more than these two(bring on MisterMiyagi too  ) who seem to have a personal agenda against any ponzi tagging/suspicious tagging to gather dooglus' attention in the first place

also: cryptodevil is someone's alt

Cryptodevil comes off as a troll.

[dogie]

Come on guys, enough with the alts already. If you don't have anything worth saying on your main account then don't bother.

[Lauda]

Then instead of creating another pointless thread, maybe you should have messaged Dooglus about it?

[cryptodevil]

Meh. It's probably just Quickscammer doing his usual fail job at reasoning.

The strangest piece of this puzzle

No, the strangest piece of this puzzle is why you suck so badly at critical thinking you provide evidence showing how Dooglus and I feel differently about Ponzi schemes, be they open about what they are, or otherwise, yet you also imply I am collaborating with Dooglus for his benefit.

also: cryptodevil is someone's alt

Really? You base this remarkable claim on what, exactly? No, it's ok, it is a rhetorical question, I already know what you base it on, namely, the practice of slinging shit and hoping some of it sticks. People who do that end up with stinky hands.

This drives people away from this form of gambling and some of these players will migrate to gambling at Just-Dice.

Or ANY other fucking gambling, gaming or investment service. 

Jesus, you suck at this QS.

[Your Point Is Invalid]

Meh. It's probably just Quickscammer doing his usual fail job at reasoning.

The strangest piece of this puzzle

No, the strangest piece of this puzzle is why you suck so badly at critical thinking you provide evidence showing how Dooglus and I feel differently about Ponzi schemes, be they open about what they are, or otherwise, yet you also imply I am collaborating with Dooglus for his benefit.

also: cryptodevil is someone's alt

Really? You base this remarkable claim on what, exactly? No, it's ok, it is a rhetorical question, I already know what you base it on, namely, the practice of slinging shit and hoping some of it sticks. People who do that end up with stinky hands.

~snip~

There you go again, insulting everyone, this is one of the reasons why we question your intelligence and your reasoning abilities

I actually have some evidence that you are someone's alt, other from that, people have pm'd me saying you're someone's alt

[mexxer-2]

I actually have some evidence that you are someone's alt, other from that, people have pm'd me saying you're someone's alt

Lol, imagine people coming to you for "The Knowledge"

[cryptodevil]

There you go again, insulting everyone, this is one of the reasons why we question your intelligence and your reasoning abilities

You can shove your tone-complaint fallacy right up your arse. Try actually fucking providing a reasoned rebuttal instead of dishonestly dodging it by complaining about how you don't like how somebody asserted their objectively-reasoned argument.

I actually have some evidence that you are someone's alt, other from that, people have pm'd me saying you're someone's alt

No, you do not have evidence that I am someone's alt, you fucking imbecile. Do you know how I know this?

Because I'm not a fucking alt and just because you and the infantile circle-jerk you vaguely refer to as 'people' have pm'd each other with the same ridiculous and baseless claim, doesn't make it true.

Are you lot even capable of understanding the basic principals of intellectually-honest argument?

[Zeke2345]

Nothing wrong with being nothing but hot air, just stop thinking people should take you any other way than a joke account.
A account like this should not have trust, when its just used for trolling.

[cryptodevil]

^^^ Yawn.

You also don't think that cryptodevil will leave negative trust to those who call for his removal from DT?

Now why would I do that? I know you're a twat but you're entitled to be as twattish as you care to show yourself to be. It would be absurd to use the trust system to tag people just because you don't like somebody.

Tagging people because they have demonstrated behaviour which is indicative of untrustworthiness, now, that's something else entirely. Something you goits appear to be struggling to understand.

[Coinonomous]

The butthurt is so strong with quickscammer, & this garbage just keeps proving it. 

[onlinedragon]

Have also received once negative trust from cryptodevil because I said this in Minerfarm topic.

So far I know they did always there withdraws and are people reaching roi on this website

I understand he do also good work to warn people about ponzi/scam. But who is he to tell all people what is aloud to say and what not. Don't think red trust is meant to use this way so people get pushed to remove there post. This looks like an censored forum this way. The red trust will only be removed if you remove the post unbelievable.

[TECSHARE]

I agree Cryptodevil does not belong within the default trust, not for the reasons stated, but because he is another out of control trust system dictator.

Quickseller- your sock puppeting is not helping drive this point home. Can you please just get a job at a PR agency doing consensus management and astroturfing? They will pay you for being a loser there at least.

[SnukeySnizz]

I have done some research and have discovered some non-conclusive evidence that points to cryptodevil being Antreas Kililis from Cyprus who was the owner of buddyhost.com, a hosting company that disappeared one day and ran away with customers funds without helping any customers migrate their websites. You can read about this web hosting company here: https://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1245319

cryptodevil, what do you have to say to this accusation?

If anyone can find more evidence that links cryptodevil to Antreas Kililis please post it.