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January 26, 2013, 05:40:45 PM
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The user Jakers has attempted to scam me it would seem. He isn't responding to his private messages or on Skype. He attempted to flush this deal out for longer than was necessary, making it seem like an even sketchier situation and person. I'll update this with information when/if it comes in! Just wanted to give other honest traders on BitcoinTalk a head's up.


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January 26, 2013, 05:44:24 PM
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Boy this jakers guy just can't seem to get it together.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138007.msg1470570#msg1470570
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January 26, 2013, 05:52:36 PM
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In his defense, as I said I would give information as it came up he has responded. Apparently he still hasn't got all of his coins in one place to send to me. Like I told him I don't understand how someone would agree to a deal and not give that little tidbit of info to the other person(s) involved in the deal.

So that is where it is. And I saw that post, BCB, which is what has lit a fire under how quickly I wanted this deal to come to fruition. Seems like maybe he's just a bit disorganized and it's costing him a bit.  Undecided

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January 26, 2013, 05:52:46 PM
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Boy this jakers guy just can't seem to get it together.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138007.msg1470570#msg1470570

Are we going to go through this every time I do a fucking trade guy? Hop off idiot.


@ Kalm, I already told you VIA PM the situation. If you want to call off the deal go ahead. But like you said VIA PM you can chargeback the payment at any given time, so I'm making sure MY funds are 100% safe to keep that from happening. Go ahead and call off the deal, I'll forward you the email from Amazon.

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January 26, 2013, 05:54:58 PM
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Jakers

You need to find another hobby.
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January 27, 2013, 02:22:26 PM
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This guy is a scammer and absolutely terrible at being a decent human being online. He has not being timely in returning my private messages, he will read them and then chose not to respond, and still has not sent the bitcoins. Although he is claiming he has to get them from several different places? We all know this is bullsh!t and it's comprabable to this user's attitude as well. He is an arrogant self-righteous a-hole who is a pain to deal with. I recommend anyone who is thinking about trading with not to do so.

I'll put this in all other threads concerning Jakers, this deal, or anyone else thinking about working with him.

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January 27, 2013, 03:49:39 PM
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http://I have had a similar experience with Jakers.  I am still a bit hesitant to call him a scammer, as from what I have read he takes an insanely long time to complete a transaction.

Jakers offered to buy from me a $25 dollar Best Buy gift card for half price (My initial forum post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138722.msg1477557#msg1477557).  I got the card for free awhile back, and had not used in since.  I also have no rep to speak of, so trading, even at a loss, to get a decent reputation seemed like a good idea.

Here is the PM from Jakers making the request, and his reply to me saying sure (crossed this out as it was a bit hard to read it was conditional to me not having any other offers in the next 24 hours I said I would trade with him if I had no other offers within 24 hours)
http://i.imgur.com/f3Ljz8L.png




Here is the initial value of the card:
http://i.imgur.com/UM4qOs1.png




value obtained from Best Buy's gift card balance checker here: https://www-ssl.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?id=pcat17043&type=page
A simple search of "Check giftcard balance" on the Best Buy site will take you to the same page.
After some time, I get this message: http://i.imgur.com/4Xt8M9g.png



I forget the exact context of it, as I wasn't saving all of my sent PMs.  But notice the time stamp, and lack of funds in this address: 1FyT3UQNRN9Ah1Bnp55LjoCNkDYqVzVfMH.

first four numbers blocked out for security stuff, and to keep myself from being accused of giving out the gift card number.
The PM's I have on record of me sending to Jakers:
http://i.imgur.com/3Mzubee.png?1


Here is the balance of the gift card now:
http://i.imgur.com/mbLyuHi.png


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I am still hoping to get a payment from him, but thought I should share the experience I had with this user.

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As per BCB's suggestion.  
Amount owed: 50% of $25, or about 0.7BTC to about 0.74BTC (depending on exchange rates).
Link to blockchain address for transaction: http://blockchain.info/address/1FyT3UQNRN9Ah1Bnp55LjoCNkDYqVzVfMH
Proof of promised amount: http://i.imgur.com/f3Ljz8L.png

EDIT: Made image viewable, downside is it is a bit hard to tell where text begins and ends.
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January 27, 2013, 06:22:12 PM
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Wow. Looks like he got the guy above me too.

I can absolutely co sign on what Kalm is saying. This Jakers guy is a SCAMMER.

I made a thread trying to sell my $100 walmart gift cards. He said he would purchase three at the rate we negotiated which was 12.75 BTC for all three gc's.

We began the trade well over 24 hours ago. More like 30 hours ago actually. At first he claimed to be waiting on email confirmation from walmart.com after he used the gc's to purchase new gc's.

He claims to have received the first gc code but the second two had not arrived yet. While I had no way to verify this, we agreed to wait another 5-6 hours at the most and he send 4.25 BTC for the first gc while I waited.

He claimed to be waiting on a LR-->BTC trade and that was the last I heard from him. I have messaged him multiple times only to be ignored. He hops on and offline pretty regularly.

I have the message log to prove what I am saying. I have every message he sent me and started saving my outbox messages to him once he stopped responding.

Prove us wrong Jakers.
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January 27, 2013, 06:33:45 PM
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Jakers offered to buy my Xbox code.  I replied with a question and said that the amount he offered is acceptable.  He never replied.  Glad I didn't send the code...

http://i.imgur.com/GiU2bxm.jpg

(Disclaimer: the above doesn't prove he is a scammer... he may just be untimely at responding)
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January 27, 2013, 06:54:45 PM
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Jakers offered to buy my Xbox code.  I replied with a question and said that the amount he offered is acceptable.  He never replied.  Glad I didn't send the code...

http://i.imgur.com/GiU2bxm.jpg

(Disclaimer: the above doesn't prove he is a scammer... he may just be untimely at responding)

As of right now the public perception of him is not good and he is not doing anything to help it.

I would love for him to prove me wrong though. I would much rather have have gc codes or BTC instead of being right about him being a scammer.
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January 27, 2013, 07:50:00 PM
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if jakers owes you bitcoin please update your post or add a chat log or PM screen shot of an agreement AND a link to the empty bitcoin address on blockchain.info

If Jakers has make good on your trades please post that also.

Thanks
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January 27, 2013, 09:27:34 PM
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if jakers owes you bitcoin please update your post or add a chat log or PM screen shot of an agreement AND a link to the empty bitcoin address on blockchain.info

If Jakers has make good on your trades please post that also.

Thanks


How do I post the screenshots? I cant seem to copy and paste them into the reply box
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January 27, 2013, 09:54:33 PM
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Here is the complete chat log. I did not start saving copies of my sent messages to my outbox until I realized he was ignoring my messages and the deal was going south.













Notice at 1:05 pm he said he would send 1/3 of payment. Never got it.
Then at 1:57 pm he said give him 5-6 hours to finish a trade. I have not heard from him since.

My wallet address: 19W7Pihcc9tDUVnfP3JZL9w5DSik2gDNyh

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January 28, 2013, 08:48:12 AM
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Hmm. Jakers, what is your reason here? It's not looking good for you. This is about the 4th accusation at you in this week alone.

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January 28, 2013, 01:06:05 PM
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 Nooo, Jakers? A SCAMMER? You don't say!

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January 29, 2013, 02:56:05 AM
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I have PM'ed Jakers asking for his side of the story. If he does not reply or provide adequate information, he will be tagged.

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January 29, 2013, 10:48:35 PM
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I think he's been given enough time to respond.

Verdict please?


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January 29, 2013, 11:34:52 PM
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Just sent him a link to this thread via Skype.

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January 30, 2013, 06:28:31 PM
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I think he's been given enough time to respond.

Verdict please?



Scammer tagged. He's been given ample time to reply and defend himself.

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February 01, 2013, 11:18:56 AM
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I think this new "Got BTC" guy may be Jakers. I have no hard proof, I will admit. But they have similar posting patterns. "Got BTC" popped up around the time Jakers was being outed as a scammer.

I also find there to be similarites in typing/speaking style.

Finally, I PM'd Got BTC "hey jake," and got no dispute. Just a smiley with a question mark. What's to be confused about? Just say "I think you PM'd the wrong person."

Again, no hard evidence, but my gut tells me I am right here. From the first post I read of his I got that feeling.

If I am wrong I apologize in advance. If I turn out to be wrong with a reasonable amount of proof and community agreement, I will transfer 0.1 BTC to the user that I am accusing.

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