[RESOLVED] Is CampBX a ripoff?

[Jcw188]

I stand by an accusation I made about Campbx that was never resolved.  I tried to withdraw via money order and they would not pay me, PERIOD, over several months.  They came up with excuse after excuse, including giving me FIRM dates they would pay me by, but never did.  And this was for like $400 only!  I ended up having to cancel the money order request, re-buy BTC and then use the, presumably, automated withdrawal of BTC to another exchange.  This place is trash and you'd have to be stupid to keep any amount there.

[CRServers]

Hello Jcw188,
 
I'm sorry to hear you became another victim of CampBX ...  

My story was similar, I had to change my remaining dollars back BTC again to get at least some of my money out of there.
I lost $3,000 USD with CampBX (alias Keyur @ Camp BX https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15102).
The funds that I transferred to my account using their ACH service "got lost" and never got to my bank account.
Support is nonexistent    ... and I think they want it that way.
It seems they selectively scam "vulnerable" customers constanly when possible.
My sincere recomendation to all BTC traders: Stay away from CampBX!

Sincerely,


  

[dscotese]

Hello Jcw188,
 
I'm sorry to hear you became another victim of CampBX ...  

My story was similar, I had to change my remaining dollars back BTC again to get at least some of my money out of there.
I lost $3,000 USD with CampBX (alias Keyur @ Camp BX https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15102).
The funds that I transferred to my account using their ACH service "got lost" and never got to my bank account.
Support is nonexistent    ... and I think they want it that way.
It seems they selectively scam "vulnerable" customers constanly when possible.
My sincere recomendation to all BTC traders: Stay away from CampBX!

Sincerely,
 

Both of you do a disservice to the community by making these claims without substantiation.  Yourselves too.  I put a lot of credit in the idea that "they selectively scam "vulnerable" customers constanly when possible," but "vulnerable" is the wrong word.  The correct word is "quiet," which is what both of you are being.  If you got scammed, and you're unwilling to publish evidence of it, then everything is fine in my world, and I'm not really sorry for you.  Here's why:

If you got scammed, you have the opportunity to either recover your losses, or prove once and for all that Keyur is a criminal.  To take advantage of this opportunity, all you need to do is publish your evidence right here in this thread.  Publish a reasonable interest rate for CampBX to pay for it's slowness, and see if the community backs you up.  You could also charge campBX a fee for the work it forced you to undertake to recover your losses, whatever they were.  Example:

campBX has owed me $xx for D days, and at Y% daily interest since then, I'm now out $(xx*(1+D*Y)).  Following is proof of these claims which took me T hours to compile, and that's worth about $cc to me.  To make things right campBX will have to provide me with a credit of $(xx+cc), increased by (xx*Y) for each day after today that it takes them to pay up.

If you did NOT get scammed, then you're just attacking campBX for no good reason.

So please stop being lazy, or, if you're just lying, admit it and knock it off.

[CRServers]

Hello dscotese,

My case is well documented when I made my claim some months ago, please see my post here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=514176.msg6156294#msg6156294

No, I'm not lazy and am not trying to hurt anybody just for the "fun of it"
It did happen to me, and I did loose money with CampBX

I'm too busy running my business to be looking around how to hurt people's reputations.
But, by keeping quiet I'm not helping anybody else, so I had to talk.

Take my experience, believe it or not, and draw your own conclusions.
Best regards,

[dscotese]

My case is well documented when I made my claim some months ago, please see my post here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=514176.msg6156294#msg6156294

Sorry man, but the thread you created is exactly as I described: lacking evidence of wrongdoing by campBX.  Screenshots, transcripts of conversations, whatever.  Paint a detailed picture.  No one ever has.  I suspect the reason is that campBX is slow and very careful not to get scammed by people who actually are scammers and who would post material exactly like what you have posted.

So perhaps now you understand the problem a little better.  The public needs strong evidence.  We are waiting for you, but not counting on you any more, nor any other alleged victim of campBX.  If that exchange should be shuttered for malfeasance, no one here has provided good evidence of it, and that is very sad.

[Geremia]

Screenshots, transcripts of conversations, whatever.  Paint a detailed picture.  No one ever has.

I've posted a chat transcript here.

[dscotese]

Screenshots, transcripts of conversations, whatever.  Paint a detailed picture.  No one ever has.

I've posted a chat transcript here.

I altered the link to point to the chat you had yesterday.  This is excellent evidence of slowness, which is very much like but not exactly the same as scamming.  Thank you for the details.  I think this will help everyone determine whether or not they want to do business with campBX, and perhaps warn people about expiring addresses and also about sending transactions without paying any fee.

If a transaction is ignored the first time it gets seen by the network, I think it has to be re-broadcast to try again.  The standard client does that, AFAIK, but I thought it also includes the fee by default.  If you broadcast the Tx and then shut down your client, that could explain the extra long delay.  But I'm getting into reasons for campBX to charge you a fee, so I'll be quiet now.

Good luck!

[ayayay]

I appear to be another victim-- bitcoins locked with zero customer support--  bitcoins locked for over one week.

[dscotese]

Hi Ayayay,

Since the suggestions I made earlier have not been taken up by CampBX, I'm interested in seeing bitcointalk become the standard customer service portal for them so that everything is more out in the open.  If that effort bears fruit, one strong effect will be that campBX will learn much more quickly how important it is to stay in touch with customers.  So...

How long did you have this problem with CampBX before you found this thread and posted to it?  I'm thinking it might be wise to post here on the same day that you contact support.

[ayayay]

one week

[gangplankk]

I was just about to consider them, but guess not