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March 25, 2016, 02:37:11 AM
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As most of us know, Donald Trump has made many points about this wall we wants to build on the mexican border. Although he states the wall could cost between $8-$15 Billion, current research has suggested it could cost around $80 Billion. Thoughts?

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March 25, 2016, 02:41:59 AM
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Because he is the greatest builder.

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March 25, 2016, 04:27:13 AM
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As most of us know, Donald Trump has made many points about this wall we wants to build on the mexican border. Although he states the wall could cost between $8-$15 Billion, current research has suggested it could cost around $80 Billion. Thoughts?
Current RESEARCH?

this is a construction project and it's not that complicated.

Seven hundred miles, assuming 15B is $3750 PER FOOT....

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March 25, 2016, 05:10:29 AM
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We already have a wall with Mexico... They bore holes through, under and over the wall every day...

The problem with building a wall is defending the wall...

Unless you use armed guards and shoot anyone who crosses, it is only a bluff...

The question is, should we turn into nazi Germany by shooting anyone who tries crossing the wall?
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March 25, 2016, 06:10:27 AM
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We already have a wall with Mexico... They bore holes through, under and over the wall every day...

Or just use ladders in some places. Or maybe pass through the areas that don't have a wall because the land belongs to some rich guy. http://www.alternet.org/story/77320/homeland_security_won't_explain_why_the_mexican_border_wall_bypasses_the_rich_and_connected

The problem with building a wall is defending the wall...

And paying extra for the companies involved in building. See the article above.
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March 25, 2016, 06:23:51 AM
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Now that I think about it...

Doesn't it look like someone made Mexico build the last wall?



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March 25, 2016, 07:16:58 AM
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There is a wall aready. Is he buliding a new one or what? And he thinks that just a wall will solve the problem?

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March 25, 2016, 11:01:06 AM
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We already have a wall with Mexico... They bore holes through, under and over the wall every day...

The problem with building a wall is defending the wall...

Unless you use armed guards and shoot anyone who crosses, it is only a bluff...

The question is, should we turn into nazi Germany by shooting anyone who tries crossing the wall?
you fire warning shots into the air then shoot at the invaders if the warnings go unheeded, doing harm to a wrongdoer before he can do harm to you is called defending yourself. this is what the israelis do and their wall is 99% effective at keeping illegal african muslim infiltrators out of the country. same for bulgaria and its border with turkey.

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March 25, 2016, 11:32:07 AM
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We already have a wall with Mexico... They bore holes through, under and over the wall every day...

The problem with building a wall is defending the wall...

Unless you use armed guards and shoot anyone who crosses, it is only a bluff...

The question is, should we turn into nazi Germany by shooting anyone who tries crossing the wall?
you fire warning shots into the air then shoot at the invaders if the warnings go unheeded, doing harm to a wrongdoer before he can do harm to you is called defending yourself. this is what the israelis do and their wall is 99% effective at keeping illegal african muslim infiltrators out of the country. same for bulgaria and its border with turkey.

Yeah sure, could you just stop spreading your lies here?

And shooting at desperate population, hungry women and children that only want to live is not acceptable in any way. It cannot. It means you're actually ready to kill innocents people simply because you can't share the basic minimum to live... It says a lot on your mentality though.

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March 25, 2016, 11:47:20 AM
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As most of us know, Donald Trump has made many points about this wall we wants to build on the mexican border. Although he states the wall could cost between $8-$15 Billion, current research has suggested it could cost around $80 Billion. Thoughts?
Current RESEARCH?

this is a construction project and it's not that complicated.

Seven hundred miles, assuming 15B is $3750 PER FOOT....

Who counts with foot? Don't even know how much it does... Please start evolving to modern science...

So after research it makes 10 000$ per meter. Doesn't seem incredible to me. Especially considering the price of defending the wall :/

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As most of us know, Donald Trump has made many points about this wall we wants to build on the mexican border. Although he states the wall could cost between $8-$15 Billion, current research has suggested it could cost around $80 Billion. Thoughts?
Current RESEARCH?

this is a construction project and it's not that complicated.

Seven hundred miles, assuming 15B is $3750 PER FOOT....


height and width is this included
plus how deep will the footings be..Is it made with concrete slabs?
is it made with bricks? 1 skin 2 skins how many skins?
Unless you know how it's going to be built you will never know the price
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March 25, 2016, 01:37:42 PM
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That long border would be really useless and pointless investment.

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March 25, 2016, 01:44:45 PM
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Who's going to pay for the wall between the United States and Canada?  Don't we need one there too?
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Yeah sure, could you just stop spreading your lies here?
why couldn't you have used google
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Rights groups such as Amnesty International have called on the Egyptian authorities to "urgently rein in their border security forces" after seven African asylum-seekers were killed in September trying to cross into Israel on foot, but some Israeli NGOs and soldiers say the death toll at the border is far higher.
http://www.irinnews.org/report/86368/egypt-israel-how-many-migrants-are-dying-border
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“A big group of illegal migrants attempted to enter Bulgaria from Turkey. One man suffered a gunshot wound in the incident and died on the way to hospital,” an interior ministry spokeswoman told AFP.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/16/afghan-refugee-shot-dead-police-turkey-enter-bulgaria

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And shooting at desperate population, hungry women and children that only want to live is not acceptable in any way. It cannot. It means you're actually ready to kill innocents people simply because you can't share the basic minimum to live... It says a lot on your mentality though.
it says i place the protection of my personal belongings and national resources ahead of the well being of parasite invaders who would take them away from me. if we don't shoot a few they are only going to keep coming until all civilised countries are overwhelmed by the third world.

your attitude is that of the american negress who recently critisised a homeowner for shooting dead her nigger cousin who had broken into to the person's home to steal because he "needed money for clothes for school". if our ancestors had thought this way all of europe would have fallen under islamic rule a long time ago.

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Yeah sure, could you just stop spreading your lies here?
why couldn't you have used google
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Rights groups such as Amnesty International have called on the Egyptian authorities to "urgently rein in their border security forces" after seven African asylum-seekers were killed in September trying to cross into Israel on foot, but some Israeli NGOs and soldiers say the death toll at the border is far higher.
http://www.irinnews.org/report/86368/egypt-israel-how-many-migrants-are-dying-border
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“A big group of illegal migrants attempted to enter Bulgaria from Turkey. One man suffered a gunshot wound in the incident and died on the way to hospital,” an interior ministry spokeswoman told AFP.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/16/afghan-refugee-shot-dead-police-turkey-enter-bulgaria

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And shooting at desperate population, hungry women and children that only want to live is not acceptable in any way. It cannot. It means you're actually ready to kill innocents people simply because you can't share the basic minimum to live... It says a lot on your mentality though.
it says i place the protection of my personal belongings and national resources ahead of the well being of parasite invaders who would take them away from me. if we don't shoot a few they are only going to keep coming until all civilised countries are overwhelmed by the third world.

your attitude is that of the american negress who recently critisised a homeowner for shooting dead her nigger cousin who had broken into to the person's home to steal because he "needed money for clothes for school". if our ancestors had thought this way all of europe would have fallen under islamic rule a long time ago.


Thanks for this comment. I think there is nothing more to say. You belong to the kind of people believing it's right to kill others because they want to take parts of the tremendeous amount of goods and food you have in order to survive.
Funny though. Between a Syrian woman who ran a war country, traveled whole Europe bare foot, managed to reach your borders risking her life with a last both expansive and dangerous travel accross sea, and you who only born here, who deserves the most the nationality?

And it seems like you compare our modern society to Middle Age. Wanna go back to this time? Did it even crossed your mind that the main difference between today and middle age is that we interfere in all their actions and use them as garbages? Hence that it's rather normal to see them turning at us once they got no other hope? What would be your solution? Close the borders and shoot at anyone?

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Thanks for this comment. I think there is nothing more to say. You belong to the kind of people believing it's right to kill others because they want to take parts of the tremendeous amount of goods and food you have in order to survive.
Funny though. Between a Syrian woman who ran a war country, traveled whole Europe bare foot, managed to reach your borders risking her life with a last both expansive and dangerous travel accross sea, and you who only born here, who deserves the most the nationality?
the definition of nationality is the status of belonging to a particular nation so obviously the syrian qualifies for nationality in syria and i qualify for nationality here. the clue is in the name. there is no country on earth in which you or i would qualify for citizenship simply on the basis that we have traveled a long way through difficult conditions to get there. the rule for every would-be immigrant in every non white country on earth is that you have to go through a legal process and prove you can support yourself financially before getting anywhere. and in almost every case you wont qualify for welfare until you've paid into their system for a few years. but when white people attempt to apply these very reasonable standards to third world muslims it all of a sudden becomes racist and cruel.

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And it seems like you compare our modern society to Middle Age. Wanna go back to this time? Did it even crossed your mind that the main difference between today and middle age is that we interfere in all their actions and use them as garbages? Hence that it's rather normal to see them turning at us once they got no other hope? What would be your solution? Close the borders and shoot at anyone?
yes we should shoot invaders instead of letting ourselves by overrun by them and allowing our civilisation to descend into third world anarchy. it works for israel as i have already shown you. following their no nonsense approach we'd shoot literally a handful and the rest get the message to stop coming. any that slip through are given a choice between detention and deportation. say what you want about the jews, they understand that third world savages bring the third world with them and they are having none of it in their country.

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March 25, 2016, 07:47:22 PM
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As most of us know, Donald Trump has made many points about this wall we wants to build on the mexican border. Although he states the wall could cost between $8-$15 Billion, current research has suggested it could cost around $80 Billion. Thoughts?
Current RESEARCH?

this is a construction project and it's not that complicated.

Seven hundred miles, assuming 15B is $3750 PER FOOT....

Who counts with foot? Don't even know how much it does... Please start evolving to modern science...

So after research it makes 10 000$ per meter. Doesn't seem incredible to me. Especially considering the price of defending the wall :/

All construction in the USA is done with the English system, not metric.

The reason it's important to look at it in terms of costs per foot is because we can then go and look at what it costs very easily.

Ten feet into the ground, thirty feet up....pyramidal cross section....

I get about $500-1000 per running foot.

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As most of us know, Donald Trump has made many points about this wall we wants to build on the mexican border. Although he states the wall could cost between $8-$15 Billion, current research has suggested it could cost around $80 Billion. Thoughts?
Current RESEARCH?

this is a construction project and it's not that complicated.

Seven hundred miles, assuming 15B is $3750 PER FOOT....

Who counts with foot? Don't even know how much it does... Please start evolving to modern science...

So after research it makes 10 000$ per meter. Doesn't seem incredible to me. Especially considering the price of defending the wall :/


All construction in the USA is done with the English system, not metric.

The reason it's important to look at it in terms of costs per foot is because we can then go and look at what it costs very easily.

Ten feet into the ground, thirty feet up....pyramidal cross section....

I get about $500-1000 per running foot.



Trump is a racist, He wants to build a wall between Mexico and the US? What a waste of money.
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As most of us know, Donald Trump has made many points about this wall we wants to build on the mexican border. Although he states the wall could cost between $8-$15 Billion, current research has suggested it could cost around $80 Billion. Thoughts?
Current RESEARCH?

this is a construction project and it's not that complicated.

Seven hundred miles, assuming 15B is $3750 PER FOOT....

Who counts with foot? Don't even know how much it does... Please start evolving to modern science...

So after research it makes 10 000$ per meter. Doesn't seem incredible to me. Especially considering the price of defending the wall :/

All construction in the USA is done with the English system, not metric.

The reason it's important to look at it in terms of costs per foot is because we can then go and look at what it costs very easily.

Ten feet into the ground, thirty feet up....pyramidal cross section....

I get about $500-1000 per running foot.


Width of the wall? built in brick or concrete shuttering moulds..
Built in brick cost a lot more money plus labour..
Concrete cheap as chips but looks are not to good but will do the same job..

1 ft long 40 ft high 1 skin will cost more than 1k dollars

cost of digging the footings the labour the materials it will cost more than 500 to 1000 dollars a foot
plus how thick will the wall be as thick as my brain.
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March 25, 2016, 09:45:46 PM
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There is a wall aready. Is he buliding a new one or what? And he thinks that just a wall will solve the problem?

More likely enforcing the same ones that are built already.

Or just adding more border control patrols and more gear I suppose. Theres no other options besides that and hire more people.

The sad part with all this "build a wall" is that theres going to be more creative ways to be smuggled in lol.

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