OperationFabulous and 1400 BTC Bounty by NoAgendaMarket

[Anonymous]

On the issue of suspect links.

Someone could make a site that pays people for each link they verify . You can do this using amazon mechanical turk but why do that when someone could create a bitcoin income ?

Foir instance if you pull in an rss feed from google news and post out 5-6 links per day by twitterfeed it would be nice if you could send them to a service where people could verify they arent warez sites /porn or spam.

I think people would pay for such a thing.

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[BioMike]

@noagendamarket, yes, but I think it should be a project on its own. You also want to have multiple people to validate a site and pay the people who are the most having the same answer (like 100 people, 95 say it is a spam site, 5 say its not, then pay the 95 people 0.01 btc each.
Detecting malicious content will be difficult however, knowing about the situation that many people have it running on their computer without knowing it.


I think the Approvable ads might be a good thing. However, how would such thing be implemented? Per website that contains the ad (allows publishers to have sites that need approval and some that don't) or per publisher (all sites of that publisher need approval).
Also, when I would implement such feature I think it's better to store the bid in an "to-be-approved" list and only add them to the bidding list until after approval, else the algorithm to determine the highest bidder and the price for the ad would get overly complicated and/or slow.

[ribuck]

Approvable ads represent a lot of development work, and would add some complexity to the interface.

As an intermediate measure, there could be a facility to reject an ad that is already running. Perhaps with two options: "Reject this ad from this website" and "Reject this ad from all my websites".

[kiba]

Will there be statistics for me to look at?

[BioMike]

Approvable ads represent a lot of development work, and would add some complexity to the interface.

As an intermediate measure, there could be a facility to reject an ad that is already running. Perhaps with two options: "Reject this ad from this website" and "Reject this ad from all my websites".

I was thinking about a blacklist when the bid gets deleted (would be only for that website). One other thing I was thinking about is a sort of "pre-emptive" approval of ads. A list with all ads, that you can say if you like or not for your sites. When an advertiser does a bit and you already approved it the bid will be taken up in the bidding, else it will be held for approval.

Will there be statistics for me to look at?

Not implemented yet. Seems people find the approval of ads more important, but I might do stats in between (because the approval is more or less in the poll (animated/xxx option) and stats are not (forgot to include them)). I can tell you that your site draws not so many people (only after you posted it there was a little spike) based on looking at the webserver logs.

[ribuck]

One other thing I was thinking about is a sort of "pre-emptive" approval of ads. A list with all ads, that you can say if you like or not for your sites.

Yes, pre-emptive approval (or disapproval) would be great.

As for stats, advertisers are going to want them so that they can set their bids. But it's not urgent.

[FreeMoney]

BioMike, did something change? New adds have broken links. Even when I use the exact same link as a currently working ad it does not work.

edit: seems to work, maybe I didn't use the exact same address as before. Is the http:// necessary?

[BioMike]

edit: seems to work, maybe I didn't use the exact same address as before. Is the http:// necessary?

I'll have a look what happened here (after dinner). No idea though. The protocol (http://) is required for proper function, but there should be a check for that when it is entered.

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Fixed!
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[FreeMoney]

Is there a particular reason for 40kb as the size limit? I have a fairly normal skyscraper that I can't get under 42kb even as a jpg.

[BioMike]

Is there a particular reason for 40kb as the size limit? I have a fairly normal skyscraper that I can't get under 42kb even as a jpg.

People suggested earlier that that was a reasonable maximum size for an ad. I'll raise the maximum size limit. Give me a few minutes.

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Maximum size should now be 100Kb. Could you give it a try?
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[ribuck]

Is there a particular reason for 40kb as the size limit? I have a fairly normal skyscraper that I can't get under 42kb even as a jpg.

Site owners don't want the loading of their pages to be slowed down. Page load speed is even one of the factors in a website's position on Google.

But sure, why not increase the limit for the skyscraper ad to 50kB or 60kB in return for reducing it for the smaller ads.

[BioMike]

But sure, why not increase the limit for the skyscraper ad to 50kB or 60kB in return for reducing it for the smaller ads.

There are 2 checks for the size. One within the HTML code, that the browser should respect (most of them do) and one server-side.
The server side I could implement that way, but the HTML one not (I don't know what type of ad someone is going to upload before they do).
Or everything would have to be spread over multiple pages (like with placing a bid, I don't think anybody would like that).

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With the approving-of-ads-feature, this problem should also be solved.
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BTW, stats are available for advertisers, so they can judge better how much they want to bid on a site.
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[kiba]

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BTW, stats are available for advertisers, so they can judge better how much they want to bid on a site.
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I can't see my own website statistics!

[BioMike]

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BTW, stats are available for advertisers, so they can judge better how much they want to bid on a site.
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I can't see my own website statistics!

"stats are available for advertisers", not publishers. The publisher website detail page needs a redesign to make some room to put it in.
If you want I can PM the current stats to you.

[ribuck]

I can't see my own website statistics!

Just register as an advertiser and take a look. A site owner should become familiar with how their site is presented to advertisers.

[kiba]

You should have a link to the bid page under every banner so that people knows that you can buy ads using bitcoin like what projectwonderful do with their ads.

[BioMike]

You should have a link to the bid page under every banner so that people knows that you can buy ads using bitcoin like what projectwonderful do with their ads.

I have this when no bid is placed on an ad space (see http://bitcoinreport.blogspot.com/ and http://www.infinitypfm.org/ as an example).
I might want to add a link later, but it is not a priority atm (need to make the bid page public available for that as well).

[Cusipzzz]

I'd give a lot more biz if these sites didn't have ridic mins... 1btc/day for a site with 10 hits? I lol'd.

[BioMike]

I'd give a lot more biz if these sites didn't have ridic mins... 1btc/day for a site with 10 hits? I lol'd.

Yes, I can't agree more. Now they don't make anything, else they would maybe make a few cents a day. Not much, but still more then nothing. Also check the location of the ad within the site. Putting it completely at the bottom will also generate less. I'll put a "hint" on the site later today.

People can always PM me if they want to have something changed, that will also be easier then re-setting up the site (which also needs to go through approval).

There are now about 8 to 10 advertisers registered, but only 3 or 4 have bids running. I wonder why the other advertisers don't bid.

[idev]

Whats the min cashout?