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March 31, 2016, 03:58:39 AM Last edit: March 31, 2016, 04:08:51 AM by contraband |
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After interacting with Cryptohunter and read his Trolling posts, I have come to the conclusion that he is so obsessed with Iota that it has driven him insane! Here is my last interaction with him.
never have I seen so many sock puppets and posting ninjas promoting one scheme.
why hide... be yourself. Only shame can explain this stealth posting.
Im right here. No hiding. Guess what? No one cares about all your trolling, crybaby. For those just tuning in... Cryptohunter knew about this "stealth" ICO. The PROOF is the fact that he actually posted in more than one Iota thread prior and during the ICO. As we can all plainly see, he's not too bright. He didn't invest. Then, he begged incessantly for a 2nd ICO. When he didn't get his way, he tried to convince the Iota devs to change their mind by creating a poll. When that didn't work, that's when he started trolling, making silly topics, and becoming an all out pest. Regardless of proven facts, he continues to push the theory that the ICO was "hidden" from the public. He talks about how there were no Iota threads on the "main board" even when his posts are in them. He seems to think a story in CoinTelegraph is non-existent. The ICO wasn't long enough even though it lasted a MONTH. He says it has poor distribution while it had over 300 investors and raised over $500,000 dollars. He refers to a poll that has an imaginary 50% of the voters saying that Iota is a scam. And...you guessed it... there isn't one. All of this while Iota has been mentioned by Forbes magazine, has received a grant, and was added to Microsoft Azure before it even launched. And there is more. If he would just spend his energy doing some chores around the house and cleaning his room in the basement, maybe his mother would give him some money so he could invest in his prized Iota. He could still make a killing. Instead he rants and raves about its value being 30x the ICO price. If he would spend some time learning more about the potential of IOT and how Iota will play a big part in it, he would still be able to make 100 times his investment by the end of the year. But no, he will stick his fingers in his ears and yell, nah nah stealth scam NXT2 - NXT3 etc etc and then bitch that Iota stole his Xmas!! So now you're up to date on the Cryptohunter debacle!! I will reply to each of your points one at a time. 1. Cryptohunter knew about this "stealth" ICO. The PROOF is the fact that he actually posted in more than one Iota thread prior and during the ICO. No the ICO was not mentioned at the time I commented in the thread. At that time people were being told not to ask about how to go about buying them....By the time I checked back it was over.Also the fact the ICO was under advertised and attracted 20 X less than other big ICO is not dependent only myself. What does it matter about 1 person. I am stating a fact that it was under advertised in general and on purpose. So that it could be pumped after and ransomed of for 3000% more than it was sold for first time around. The price being demanded is a testament to this fact. How else can you pumpers and scammers be demanding 3000+ sats for 130sats coins? that is as great a price rise as ethereums ico tokens?? your only claim to fame is using dag? that has not even been proven a viable concept for basing a token?? 2. Then, he begged incessantly for a 2nd ICO. When he didn't get his way, he tried to convince the Iota devs to change their mind by creating a poll. When that didn't work, that's when he started trolling, making silly topics, and becoming an all out pest. I stated it was only the right thing to do and give the other forum members that never heard about the ico because the advertising on this board was so terrible and stealthy UNTIL AFTER THE ICO WHEN ALL THE PUMPERS STARTED TO ADVERTISE IT HOURLY ON THE MAIN BOARD. I suggested give the other members of the forum that were interested a chance to invest at 130sats or even 100% higher prices like 260 sats. It would broaden distribution and raise more funds for the project. NO NO NO they all scream? why?? because we don't want a broader distribution and larger community and more dev funds??? why you may ask I mean it wasn't released? the reason is simple they want to dump it on everyone else for 3000% profits or now they are talking about mugging everyone else for 200000% profits. 3.He says it has poor distribution while it had over 300 investors and raised over $500,000 dollars. WOW - all other ICO have raised MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of dollars. That is a tiny amount now you are all dreaming of billion dollar coins LOL Maid raised millions, ethereum raised millions, lisk raised millions. 20x, 30x more than you stealth ico.On top of this I would doubt even 300 people invested. In fact I may start a POLL. If you invested in IOTA post your username. I would wager most will be sock puppets or those with long periods of inactivity since they are older sock puppets used for a previous scam probably nxt. I bet we could hardly get 200 real users on this board that invested. 4. All of this while Iota has been mentioned by Forbes magazine, has received a grant, and was added to Microsoft Azure before it even launched. And there is more. Oh dear the azure project. Wow that old chestnut is getting old now I think we established it means little. Forbes article? the one bitshares was mentioned in too along with a few other coins?? I think forbes has mentioned a few coins in its time.
5. Yes it is run by the NXT people ....they should have gone that extra mile to make sure it was given a broader distribution this time. Instead they made it one of the smallest ico's of recent times.
As I told your sock puppet pals. There is no point trying to discredit me. It makes no difference if I am the devil. It will not change the facts that the ICO was not advertised as other big ICO's have been. It also does not even afford a POW period of distribution as ethereum does. This is ethereum that people are calling one of the biggest pumps of all time?? you scam coin has already pumped as much as ethereum has over ICO price and still you believe it is not a scam? it offers what except using DAG as the concept for the token?? it's not even on exchange or proven to function as yet and you think the pump should be = to ethereum already? and you are telling people it can go up another 30x. So it will apparently be a pump 3000% greater than ethereums pump? wow ethereum ico investors will look like paupers time you scammers take you scam profits.
I hope someone clones this DAG token does a proper ICO and I Own Tons Assholes led by the Criminal From Belarus will not get to scam the board and small investors out of even more BTC than they did with NXT1. NXT2 (iota) can get lost.
Red highlight 1 You may wonder why it took him so long to check back into Iota and missed the ICO, considering it lasted a month. Surprise... he was banned. But that doesn't mean he still couldn't check back? Yup.. he's nuts Also, he has deemed Iota value at double the ICO price. A satoshi more = SCAM Red highlight 2 I guess if you fail to reach a million dollars in your ICO it is considered "stealth" in his book. Red 3 Yes, Microsoft is has added SO MANY SCAM COINS. Yeah right. Ok Cryptohunter. We got it. As matter of fact Forbes magazine also writes about scams as well. The rest tells me only one thing.... Raving mad I tell ya!! Cast your votes. Thanks!
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March 31, 2016, 04:03:15 AM |
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As far as I understand Cryptohunter is on the forefront of exposing ICO/IPO/you name it-type scam projects.
Good job cryptohunter. 'IOTA' is the latest scheme?
and what did my humble ears hear? *NXT creators involved*? 'Acorn doesn't fall far from the tree, uh.
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March 31, 2016, 04:15:43 AM |
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More untruthful tales.
1. My account got hacked and I couldn't get it back for a few weeks. I was not banned.
2. I was moving abroad at the time so that was a busy period too.
3. this poll will be a main attraction for the iota pumpers to vote so I'll be in the basement with no computer for sure!
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March 31, 2016, 04:18:25 AM |
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As far as I understand Cryptohunter is on the forefront of exposing ICO/IPO/you name it-type scam projects.
Good job cryptohunter. 'IOTA' is the latest scheme?
and what did my humble ears hear? *NXT creators involved*? 'Acorn doesn't fall far from the tree, uh.
Thanks, I'm glad my efforts are helpful and some people approve. Yes. Exactly. This acorn is yet a small sapling that can be easily chopped down. Let's not await the oak tree before we buy the axe.
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March 31, 2016, 07:20:05 AM |
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cryptohunter is just a signature spammer. Probably that was also the reason for the ban.
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March 31, 2016, 11:10:58 AM |
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1. Cryptohunter knew about this "stealth" ICO. The PROOF is the fact that he actually posted in more than one Iota thread prior and during the ICO.
You gotta get into his psyche then and feel remorse. Imagine he was calculating to enter ICO with 100 BTC, but he finally didn't do it. It's hard not to be millionaire right now, so he wants to spoil the party for everyone else... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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March 31, 2016, 12:14:30 PM |
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cryptohunter is just a signature spammer. Probably that was also the reason for the ban.
You either can not read or like to spread misinformation. I was not banned my account was hacked as can be proven.
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March 31, 2016, 03:34:54 PM |
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cryptohunter is just a signature spammer. Probably that was also the reason for the ban.
You either can not read or like to spread misinformation. I was not banned my account was hacked as can be proven. OK, so we have established that you are a signature spammer. Now the remaining question is whether you have been banned because of the spamming or not. Please give us your aforementioned proof, please.
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March 31, 2016, 03:45:55 PM |
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cryptohunter is just a signature spammer. Probably that was also the reason for the ban.
You either can not read or like to spread misinformation. I was not banned my account was hacked as can be proven. OK, so we have established that you are a signature spammer. Now the remaining question is whether you have been banned because of the spamming or not. Please give us your aforementioned proof, please. We have now established you are either not reading my posts and/or have no knowledge of the rules here. My main gripe is that ICO's are not widely advertised enough. Thus leading to only a few people holding all the tokens and manipulating supply/price 1. If i was a signature spammer then I would not need to have this banner in my signature until 8 weeks time. You only have to post 50 times before the launch. Understand? 2 If i was a scam promoter such as yourself. I would not want this banner for my signature because as you know more people knowing about an ICO and investing makes it harder to pump because everyone has some coins and a few people cant hoard it all up and ransome it to others for 3000% profit like you are trying to do with IOTA. I hope that made it clearer for you. I will rather raise you a bet 50 BTC right now with escrows that I was hacked not banned? I will give you irrefutable evidence?? I was never banned the account was hacked. Do you take this bet YES OR NO?? If you don't have 50 BTC I will go down to 5BTC to make it more reasonable. YES or NO you will take the bet?
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My vote : ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVp3PiNT.jpg&t=665&c=qdkd6GNJoFiSOw) edit : appearently he is not only obsessed with Iota but with a certain other cryptocurrency as well.
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March 31, 2016, 06:24:00 PM |
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cryptohunter is just a signature spammer. Probably that was also the reason for the ban.
You either can not read or like to spread misinformation. I was not banned my account was hacked as can be proven. OK, so we have established that you are a signature spammer. Now the remaining question is whether you have been banned because of the spamming or not. Please give us your aforementioned proof, please. We have now established you are either not reading my posts and/or have no knowledge of the rules here. My main gripe is that ICO's are not widely advertised enough. Thus leading to only a few people holding all the tokens and manipulating supply/price 1. If i was a signature spammer then I would not need to have this banner in my signature until 8 weeks time. You only have to post 50 times before the launch. Understand? 2 If i was a scam promoter such as yourself. I would not want this banner for my signature because as you know more people knowing about an ICO and investing makes it harder to pump because everyone has some coins and a few people cant hoard it all up and ransome it to others for 3000% profit like you are trying to do with IOTA. I hope that made it clearer for you. I will rather raise you a bet 50 BTC right now with escrows that I was hacked not banned? I will give you irrefutable evidence?? I was never banned the account was hacked. Do you take this bet YES OR NO?? If you don't have 50 BTC I will go down to 5BTC to make it more reasonable. YES or NO you will take the bet? Why bet, you said you had proof, I asked you to produce it? So, bring it on! And just for the record, there is no irrefutable evidence ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 31, 2016, 09:10:19 PM |
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cryptohunter is just a signature spammer. Probably that was also the reason for the ban.
You either can not read or like to spread misinformation. I was not banned my account was hacked as can be proven. OK, so we have established that you are a signature spammer. Now the remaining question is whether you have been banned because of the spamming or not. Please give us your aforementioned proof, please. We have now established you are either not reading my posts and/or have no knowledge of the rules here. My main gripe is that ICO's are not widely advertised enough. Thus leading to only a few people holding all the tokens and manipulating supply/price 1. If i was a signature spammer then I would not need to have this banner in my signature until 8 weeks time. You only have to post 50 times before the launch. Understand? 2 If i was a scam promoter such as yourself. I would not want this banner for my signature because as you know more people knowing about an ICO and investing makes it harder to pump because everyone has some coins and a few people cant hoard it all up and ransome it to others for 3000% profit like you are trying to do with IOTA. I hope that made it clearer for you. I will rather raise you a bet 50 BTC right now with escrows that I was hacked not banned? I will give you irrefutable evidence?? I was never banned the account was hacked. Do you take this bet YES OR NO?? If you don't have 50 BTC I will go down to 5BTC to make it more reasonable. YES or NO you will take the bet? Why bet, you said you had proof, I asked you to produce it? So, bring it on! And just for the record, there is no irrefutable evidence ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Really? then bet with me right now? You are saying that i was banned and I am saying I was hacked and some mods and community members helped me get my account back. I see 50 BTC is too much 5 BTC - take the bet - YES or NO? You're confident I was banned? then come on.
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March 31, 2016, 10:10:19 PM |
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cryptohunter is just a signature spammer. Probably that was also the reason for the ban.
You either can not read or like to spread misinformation. I was not banned my account was hacked as can be proven. OK, so we have established that you are a signature spammer. Now the remaining question is whether you have been banned because of the spamming or not. Please give us your aforementioned proof, please. We have now established you are either not reading my posts and/or have no knowledge of the rules here. My main gripe is that ICO's are not widely advertised enough. Thus leading to only a few people holding all the tokens and manipulating supply/price 1. If i was a signature spammer then I would not need to have this banner in my signature until 8 weeks time. You only have to post 50 times before the launch. Understand? 2 If i was a scam promoter such as yourself. I would not want this banner for my signature because as you know more people knowing about an ICO and investing makes it harder to pump because everyone has some coins and a few people cant hoard it all up and ransome it to others for 3000% profit like you are trying to do with IOTA. I hope that made it clearer for you. I will rather raise you a bet 50 BTC right now with escrows that I was hacked not banned? I will give you irrefutable evidence?? I was never banned the account was hacked. Do you take this bet YES OR NO?? If you don't have 50 BTC I will go down to 5BTC to make it more reasonable. YES or NO you will take the bet? Why bet, you said you had proof, I asked you to produce it? So, bring it on! And just for the record, there is no irrefutable evidence ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Really? then bet with me right now? You are saying that i was banned and I am saying I was hacked and some mods and community members helped me get my account back. I see 50 BTC is too much 5 BTC - take the bet - YES or NO? You're confident I was banned? then come on. This is getting boring. TL;DR contraband stated that you were banned -> I supposed ("probably") that it was because you are a signature spammer -> you said you were hacked, not banned and that you have proof => now, why don't you show us your evidence!?
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April 01, 2016, 02:18:18 AM |
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That's just it, he never brings one shread of evidence.
But he will continue on like nothing happened and rant and rave. Pretty easy to tell in this case he's insane.
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April 01, 2016, 04:08:18 AM |
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That's just it, he never brings one shread of evidence.
But he will continue on like nothing happened and rant and rave. Pretty easy to tell in this case he's insane.
I was hacked. Simple as that. I don't need to give evidence you can simply take that as the truth. I've explained to you that If i was a signature spammer. I would not have this signature now since I would have a signature that was earning me money for the next 2 months and simply add this one after that time and get the exact same net gain. Please read and understand that point. Please understand you supposed wrongly on both accounts. 1 that i was banned. 2. that i was banned for sig spamming. If i'm that insane perhaps you should take my 5BTC bet that I was not banned and earn yourself some free BTC? Either put up the 5 BTC with escrows now. Or accept I was not banned and was hacked as I keep telling you. Who do you believe more ...contraband or me? that is the question you need to ask yourself? I have no reason to have to give you any proof. That will come once you have deposited the 5 BTC with escrows. If you don't dare do it. Then I assume you believe me more than contraband. That would be a wise.
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April 01, 2016, 04:21:05 AM |
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That's just it, he never brings one shread of evidence.
But he will continue on like nothing happened and rant and rave. Pretty easy to tell in this case he's insane.
I was hacked. Simple as that. I don't need to give evidence you can simply take that as the truth. I've explained to you that If i was a signature spammer. I would not have this signature now since I would have a signature that was earning me money for the next 2 months and simply add this one after that time and get the exact same net gain. Please read and understand that point. Please understand you supposed wrongly on both accounts. 1 that i was banned. 2. that i was banned for sig spamming. If i'm that insane perhaps you should take my 5BTC bet that I was not banned and earn yourself some free BTC? Either put up the 5 BTC with escrows now. Or accept I was not banned and was hacked as I keep telling you. Who do you believe more ...contraband or me? that is the question you need to ask yourself? I have no reason to have to give you any proof. That will come once you have deposited the 5 BTC with escrows. If you don't dare do it. Then I assume you believe me more than contraband. That would be a wise. More verbal acrobatics and foaming at the mouth. Misdirecting us, when he knows I meant proof of ANYTHING!! I also never once said anything about sig smamming, so you eithr can't keep track of your lies, or most likely you believe this with no evidence again proving you are insane
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April 01, 2016, 04:31:18 AM |
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That's just it, he never brings one shread of evidence.
But he will continue on like nothing happened and rant and rave. Pretty easy to tell in this case he's insane.
I was hacked. Simple as that. I don't need to give evidence you can simply take that as the truth. I've explained to you that If i was a signature spammer. I would not have this signature now since I would have a signature that was earning me money for the next 2 months and simply add this one after that time and get the exact same net gain. Please read and understand that point. Please understand you supposed wrongly on both accounts. 1 that i was banned. 2. that i was banned for sig spamming. If i'm that insane perhaps you should take my 5BTC bet that I was not banned and earn yourself some free BTC? Either put up the 5 BTC with escrows now. Or accept I was not banned and was hacked as I keep telling you. Who do you believe more ...contraband or me? that is the question you need to ask yourself? I have no reason to have to give you any proof. That will come once you have deposited the 5 BTC with escrows. If you don't dare do it. Then I assume you believe me more than contraband. That would be a wise. More verbal acrobatics and foaming at the mouth. Misdirecting us, when he knows I meant proof of ANYTHING!! I also never once said anything about sig smamming, so you eithr can't keep track of your lies, or most likely you believe this with no evidence again proving you are insane liqio just said he supposed I was banned for sig spamming? you can't see that? Obviously I was responding to him. Unless I was asking you if you believe contraband? wait you are contraband right? so why would I ask you that? Look it's simple. I was hacked. If you really believe I was banned. That is your problem, you are wrong. If you still want to insist I was banned then why not take the bet? You or Liquio. Where is your evidence I was banned. Let me see it? Exactly there is no evidence because it did not happen. Bet me 5BTC now. Either that or now state you are wrong and change what you have written because it is simply not true.. Enough going on about it. Change it now to I was hacked or place 5 BTC with escrows and let's find out the truth.
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April 01, 2016, 05:01:35 AM |
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This is getting boring.
TL;DR contraband stated that you were banned -> I supposed ("probably") that it was because you are a signature spammer -> you said you were hacked, not banned and that you have proof => now, why don't you show us your evidence!?
@cryptohunter You said: "I was not banned my account was hacked as can be proven". Nobody else will be able to prove it as easily as you do. You have proof, don't you? Therefore, last call: Show us the proof that you said you have, or otherwise you can blame yourself and only yourself if people believe in the banned-for-signature-spamming-theory. (*) (*) just for the record I don't like presumptive evidence, but since you are a signature spammer (fact 1) and you were not able to use your account for some time (fact 2). It makes it quite hard to argue against the banned for forum spamming theory, unless you show us the proof you claim to possess. I really hope you do it for your own reputation - nobody will pay you a single cent for it.
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April 01, 2016, 05:20:41 AM |
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This is getting boring.
TL;DR contraband stated that you were banned -> I supposed ("probably") that it was because you are a signature spammer -> you said you were hacked, not banned and that you have proof => now, why don't you show us your evidence!?
@cryptohunter You said: "I was not banned my account was hacked as can be proven". Nobody else will be able to prove it as easily as you do. You have proof, don't you? Therefore, last call: Show us the proof that you said you have, or otherwise you can blame yourself and only yourself if people believe in the banned-for-signature-spamming-theory. (*) (*) just for the record I don't like presumptive evidence, but since you are a signature spammer (fact 1) and you were not able to use your account for some time (fact 2). It makes it quite hard to argue against the banned for forum spamming theory, unless you show us the proof you claim to possess. I really hope you do it for your own reputation - nobody will pay you a single cent for it.
Yes, can be proven for 5 BTC. Why are you scared to bet with me if you are so sure?? are you not sure anymore?? I can't repeat myself over the sig spamming. If you are not smart enough to work through what I am telling you then why should I waste my time trying to help you. You are obviously unable to work out that people are sig spammers to gain something. I gain nothing by having this signature right now. In fact you can say that I am wearing it for free for 8 weeks. Try to figure that out. If I wanted to gain something I would have a different sig for the next 2 months. Can you understand this or not? Please ask others for assistance if you can not. You could fathom if you were even smarter that if I support wave and am trying to make money from it. I should indeed not wear it until the last moment. Hence lowering the awareness and increase my share of the sig campaign earnings. You can't even fathom stage 1 though of my explanation so this stage 2 is completely wasted on you. So the verdict is obviously that you believe me more than you believe contraband. That is unless you don't want 5 BTC for free. Face it. It is logical. Either you don't want 5 BTC for free or You Know I was not banned. Stop trying to twist out of it. If I can't provide proof. You will get 5 BTC ....come on don't be scared.
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