paypal dropped mtgox

[S3052]

I also echo the request to enable a universal and globally acceptable withdrawal. As there is also a high percentage of people outside the US, we should have an easy and reliable withdrawal option for all regions (Europe, Asia, Africa, etc.)

[bitcoinex]

I second twobit's question. I would definitely prefer to withdraw my USD to my US bank account, preferably by ACH, or as a second-best option, by mailed check. I'm confused by mtgox's last post.

The reason I do not like LiqPay is it appears that every login and many activities require me to receive a one-time password by SMS. My only cell phone charges me $0.20 for each SMS received, and Google Voice won't accept SMS from outside the US. Paying $0.20 multiple times every time I want to use LiqPay (even if just checking account balance) seems ridiculous. Is SMS really more secure than email (free)?

It is such a feature in the former Soviet Union.

They think that SMS are safer. But in fact, anyone can use fake documents to get a new SIM card with your phone number and gain control over all your money - in the mobile operator offices  documents do not adequately checked.

http://bankir.ru/news/article/1890545
google translator:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://bankir.ru/news/article/1890545

[mtgox]

Keefe: Yes I'm adding ACH


S3052:
> I also echo the request to enable a universal and globally acceptable withdrawal.

I want the same thing you do. Please let me know if you find a good one.

[Anonymous]

Keefe: Yes I'm adding ACH


S3052:
> I also echo the request to enable a universal and globally acceptable withdrawal.

I want the same thing you do. Please let me know if you find a good one.

Is there an issue with adding paypal to allow withdraw only?

This would be great for those who only want to sell their coins not buy any.

Some more options for you
http://www.1stcontactforex.com/
http://www.tranzfers.com/ This one is easy to setup.Just add our bank account as a beneficiary and you can send it there.
http://www.fttcurrency.co.uk/index.jsp

http://www.travelexbusiness.com/ - Travelex is excellent for this type of thing.

[jgarzik]

Is there an issue with adding paypal to allow withdraw only?

I agree, this would be nice.

[sturle]

They think that SMS are safer. But in fact, anyone can use fake documents to get a new SIM card with your phone number and gain control over all your money - in the mobile operator offices  documents do not adequately checked.

No need to hassle with SIM cards.  There are lot's of ways to intercept GSM traffic.  You can even decrypt GSM traffic received over the air.  It's simple and the required equipment is cheap.  If you want more control, you can set up a fake base station.  It's even simpler than decrypting.  CCC had a good session and workshop on practical GSM hacking last year: http://events.ccc.de/congress/2009/Fahrplan/track/Hacking/3654.en.html

[matador]

Another bank account based payment processor that I found is Alert Pay.

It is Canadian Based.  It requires a business like MtGox to be verified, which will instill confidence with customers.

It comes complete with API integration for the MtGox website.

Credit Card based transactions is also possible for the brave - but those preferring more secure, non-chargeback transactions - bank transfers are offered.

To get your FREE account with AlertPay, click on this link:  https://www.alertpay.com/?hr8ZCMa6QOBJpH0tRiiz3w%3d%3d

If you do not mind, I will get referral fees if you click on the link, as I have also gone through a lot of trouble of searching for a true, fully international, western based, stable payment processor alternative to paypal.

Hope this might assist you all in your international bank account transfer transaction dealings in Bitcoin.

[Drifter]

Another bank account based payment processor that I found is Alert Pay.

It is Canadian Based.  It requires a business like MtGox to be verified, which will instill confidence with customers.

It comes complete with API integration for the MtGox website.

Credit Card based transactions is also possible for the brave - but those preferring more secure, non-chargeback transactions - bank transfers are offered.

To get your FREE account with AlertPay, click on this link:  https://www.alertpay.com/?hr8ZCMa6QOBJpH0tRiiz3w%3d%3d

If you do not mind, I will get referral fees if you click on the link, as I have also gone through a lot of trouble of searching for a true, fully international, western based, stable payment processor alternative to paypal.

Hope this might assist you all in your international bank account transfer transaction dealings in Bitcoin.

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1484.msg18222#msg18222

[matador]

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1484.msg18222#msg18222

Is Bitcoin a promise to pay (token, webmoney, e-currency, currency, voucher, etc., etc.,), or is it a unique license of ownership of a solution to a cryptographic problem?  If anybody would be stealing a Bitcoin (the solution to a cryptographic problem), they would be:

* Infringing on any third party's copyright, patent, trademark, trade secret or other property rights or rights of publicity or privacy.

and this also comes from the following acceptable use policy of AlertPay:

https://www.alertpay.com/en/agreements.aspx#6.0%20Acceptable%20Use%20and%20Activities%20Not%20Allowed

Is trading in an internet commodity called Bitcoin, (with its cryptographic key certificate intrinsic value) equivalent to issuing a promise to pay (token, webmoney, currency, etc., etc.) - or does it only represent its own intrinsic value (like licensed computer software)/salt/silver with its own specific unique properties?

See http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=815.msg12299#msg12299

[FreeMoney]

A promise to pay what? By whom? Obviously it is not a promise by anyone to pay anything.

Someone might promise to give you something for a bitcoin, but that isn't what a bitcoin is.

[Anonymous]

To get your FREE account with AlertPay, click on this link:  https://www.alertpay.com/?hr8ZCMa6QOBJpH0tRiiz3w%3d%3d

/End referral link

LOL.

You are now aware you were clicking on a link that wasnt a hyperlink....

[MoonShadow]

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1484.msg18222#msg18222

Is Bitcoin a promise to pay (token, webmoney, e-currency, currency, voucher, etc., etc.,), or is it a unique license of ownership of a solution to a cryptographic problem?  If anybody would be stealing a Bitcoin (the solution to a cryptographic problem), they would be:

* Infringing on any third party's copyright, patent, trademark, trade secret or other property rights or rights of publicity or privacy.

and this also comes from the following acceptable use policy of AlertPay:

https://www.alertpay.com/en/agreements.aspx#6.0%20Acceptable%20Use%20and%20Activities%20Not%20Allowed

Is trading in an internet commodity called Bitcoin, (with its cryptographic key certificate intrinsic value) equivalent to issuing a promise to pay (token, webmoney, currency, etc., etc.) - or does it only represent its own intrinsic value (like licensed computer software)/salt/silver with its own specific unique properties?

See http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=815.msg12299#msg12299

None of the above.

[kiba]

MtGox: Will you give us an official reason as to why people can't withdraw via liqpay?

Also, can you check your email? I had an accounting issue with your service. Thanks.

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04:00 and mt.gox was cleaned out.

[S3052]

I can't complain about MtGox.

I was in touch with him last week and he responded to my questions quickly and to my full satisfaction.

Maybe he is out over the weekend.

Still, I think we need to ensure that any BTC exchange is run professionally and with the proper risk management.

[esop]

No he is reading as we talk look at his profile!

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[Drifter]

What's going on? No bids and the price was driven extremely high. This doesn't look good.

[S3052]

No need to worry.
There are a lot of bids on MtGox.

They are just not visible because of the "poor" design of the website.

Bid is 0.11
Ask 0.119

see http://bitcoinwatch.com/

[Drifter]

Hm I saw that too. Strange. Why would the design show the lowest ask price at .19 if that's the case? Definitely a flaw that needs to be fixed.

[mtgox]

esop: What is your point? I'm not hiding. I'm still here.

kiba: I haven't implemented it. There doesn't seem to be much interest.

AlertPay: We violate their acceptable use policy.

I'm still waiting for our registration to be approved by our ACH provider. Hopefully that will happen begining of this week.

Monday you should be able to send BTC or USD to other mtgox users. This will allow 3rd parties to buy and sell mtgox usd for paypal or whatever other method they want.  (You can actually do this now with the mtgox merchant api)