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October 20, 2010, 09:32:23 PM |
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I also echo the request to enable a universal and globally acceptable withdrawal. As there is also a high percentage of people outside the US, we should have an easy and reliable withdrawal option for all regions (Europe, Asia, Africa, etc.)
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October 20, 2010, 09:35:07 PM |
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I second twobit's question. I would definitely prefer to withdraw my USD to my US bank account, preferably by ACH, or as a second-best option, by mailed check. I'm confused by mtgox's last post.
The reason I do not like LiqPay is it appears that every login and many activities require me to receive a one-time password by SMS. My only cell phone charges me $0.20 for each SMS received, and Google Voice won't accept SMS from outside the US. Paying $0.20 multiple times every time I want to use LiqPay (even if just checking account balance) seems ridiculous. Is SMS really more secure than email (free)?
It is such a feature in the former Soviet Union. They think that SMS are safer. But in fact, anyone can use fake documents to get a new SIM card with your phone number and gain control over all your money - in the mobile operator offices documents do not adequately checked. http://bankir.ru/news/article/1890545google translator: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://bankir.ru/news/article/1890545
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October 21, 2010, 01:20:57 AM |
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Keefe: Yes I'm adding ACH
S3052: > I also echo the request to enable a universal and globally acceptable withdrawal.
I want the same thing you do. Please let me know if you find a good one.
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October 21, 2010, 02:28:49 AM Last edit: October 21, 2010, 03:03:56 AM by noagendamarket |
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Keefe: Yes I'm adding ACH
S3052: > I also echo the request to enable a universal and globally acceptable withdrawal.
I want the same thing you do. Please let me know if you find a good one.
Is there an issue with adding paypal to allow withdraw only? This would be great for those who only want to sell their coins not buy any. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Some more options for you http://www.1stcontactforex.com/ http://www.tranzfers.com/ This one is easy to setup.Just add our bank account as a beneficiary and you can send it there. http://www.fttcurrency.co.uk/index.jsphttp://www.travelexbusiness.com/ - Travelex is excellent for this type of thing.
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October 21, 2010, 02:48:52 AM |
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Is there an issue with adding paypal to allow withdraw only?
I agree, this would be nice.
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October 21, 2010, 08:44:35 AM |
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They think that SMS are safer. But in fact, anyone can use fake documents to get a new SIM card with your phone number and gain control over all your money - in the mobile operator offices documents do not adequately checked.
No need to hassle with SIM cards. There are lot's of ways to intercept GSM traffic. You can even decrypt GSM traffic received over the air. It's simple and the required equipment is cheap. If you want more control, you can set up a fake base station. It's even simpler than decrypting. CCC had a good session and workshop on practical GSM hacking last year: http://events.ccc.de/congress/2009/Fahrplan/track/Hacking/3654.en.html
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October 23, 2010, 04:29:20 PM |
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Another bank account based payment processor that I found is Alert Pay. It is Canadian Based. It requires a business like MtGox to be verified, which will instill confidence with customers. It comes complete with API integration for the MtGox website. Credit Card based transactions is also possible for the brave - but those preferring more secure, non-chargeback transactions - bank transfers are offered. To get your FREE account with AlertPay, click on this link: https://www.alertpay.com/?hr8ZCMa6QOBJpH0tRiiz3w%3d%3dIf you do not mind, I will get referral fees if you click on the link, as I have also gone through a lot of trouble of searching for a true, fully international, western based, stable payment processor alternative to paypal. Hope this might assist you all in your international bank account transfer transaction dealings in Bitcoin.
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October 23, 2010, 04:52:09 PM |
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Another bank account based payment processor that I found is Alert Pay. It is Canadian Based. It requires a business like MtGox to be verified, which will instill confidence with customers. It comes complete with API integration for the MtGox website. Credit Card based transactions is also possible for the brave - but those preferring more secure, non-chargeback transactions - bank transfers are offered. To get your FREE account with AlertPay, click on this link: https://www.alertpay.com/?hr8ZCMa6QOBJpH0tRiiz3w%3d%3dIf you do not mind, I will get referral fees if you click on the link, as I have also gone through a lot of trouble of searching for a true, fully international, western based, stable payment processor alternative to paypal. Hope this might assist you all in your international bank account transfer transaction dealings in Bitcoin. http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1484.msg18222#msg18222
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October 23, 2010, 06:00:45 PM |
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Is Bitcoin a promise to pay (token, webmoney, e-currency, currency, voucher, etc., etc.,), or is it a unique license of ownership of a solution to a cryptographic problem? If anybody would be stealing a Bitcoin (the solution to a cryptographic problem), they would be: * Infringing on any third party's copyright, patent, trademark, trade secret or other property rights or rights of publicity or privacy. and this also comes from the following acceptable use policy of AlertPay: https://www.alertpay.com/en/agreements.aspx#6.0%20Acceptable%20Use%20and%20Activities%20Not%20AllowedIs trading in an internet commodity called Bitcoin, (with its cryptographic key certificate intrinsic value) equivalent to issuing a promise to pay (token, webmoney, currency, etc., etc.) - or does it only represent its own intrinsic value (like licensed computer software)/salt/silver with its own specific unique properties? See http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=815.msg12299#msg12299
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October 23, 2010, 08:32:44 PM |
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A promise to pay what? By whom? Obviously it is not a promise by anyone to pay anything.
Someone might promise to give you something for a bitcoin, but that isn't what a bitcoin is.
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October 24, 2010, 02:23:23 AM |
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LOL. You are now aware you were clicking on a link that wasnt a hyperlink.... ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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October 24, 2010, 04:11:50 AM |
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Is Bitcoin a promise to pay (token, webmoney, e-currency, currency, voucher, etc., etc.,), or is it a unique license of ownership of a solution to a cryptographic problem? If anybody would be stealing a Bitcoin (the solution to a cryptographic problem), they would be: * Infringing on any third party's copyright, patent, trademark, trade secret or other property rights or rights of publicity or privacy. and this also comes from the following acceptable use policy of AlertPay: https://www.alertpay.com/en/agreements.aspx#6.0%20Acceptable%20Use%20and%20Activities%20Not%20AllowedIs trading in an internet commodity called Bitcoin, (with its cryptographic key certificate intrinsic value) equivalent to issuing a promise to pay (token, webmoney, currency, etc., etc.) - or does it only represent its own intrinsic value (like licensed computer software)/salt/silver with its own specific unique properties? See http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=815.msg12299#msg12299None of the above.
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October 24, 2010, 05:06:21 AM |
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MtGox: Will you give us an official reason as to why people can't withdraw via liqpay?
Also, can you check your email? I had an accounting issue with your service. Thanks.
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October 24, 2010, 08:16:42 AM |
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October 24, 2010, 08:22:19 AM |
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I can't complain about MtGox.
I was in touch with him last week and he responded to my questions quickly and to my full satisfaction.
Maybe he is out over the weekend.
Still, I think we need to ensure that any BTC exchange is run professionally and with the proper risk management.
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October 24, 2010, 08:34:59 AM |
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No he is reading as we talk look at his profile!
Name: mtgox Posts: 89 (0.899 per day) Respect: 0 Position: Jr. Member Date Registered: July 17, 2010, 01:00 am *Last Active: Today at 03:08 am ICQ: AIM: MSN: YIM: Email: hidden Website: Mt. Gox --- 24/7 Bitcoin Exchange Current Status: Offline Gender: Age: N/A Location: Local Time: October 24, 2010, 08:23 am Language:
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October 24, 2010, 11:19:02 AM |
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What's going on? No bids and the price was driven extremely high. This doesn't look good.
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October 24, 2010, 11:24:20 AM |
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No need to worry. There are a lot of bids on MtGox. They are just not visible because of the "poor" design of the website. Bid is 0.11 Ask 0.119 see http://bitcoinwatch.com/
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October 24, 2010, 11:31:33 AM |
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Hm I saw that too. Strange. Why would the design show the lowest ask price at .19 if that's the case? Definitely a flaw that needs to be fixed.
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October 24, 2010, 01:07:02 PM |
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esop: What is your point? I'm not hiding. I'm still here.
kiba: I haven't implemented it. There doesn't seem to be much interest.
AlertPay: We violate their acceptable use policy.
I'm still waiting for our registration to be approved by our ACH provider. Hopefully that will happen begining of this week.
Monday you should be able to send BTC or USD to other mtgox users. This will allow 3rd parties to buy and sell mtgox usd for paypal or whatever other method they want. (You can actually do this now with the mtgox merchant api)
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