LEGAL COURSE of ACTION Discussion --- bASIC / BitcoinASIC

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Final Poll Results:

Question:    About how much does bASIC owe you? (this might help estimate total property claims)

$   600    11 (11.2%)
$ 1,100    22 (22.4%)
$ 1,700    3 (3.1%)
$ 2,200    12 (12.2%)
$ 3,300    10 (10.2%)
$ 4,400    7 (7.1%)
$ 5,500    1 (1%)
$ 11,000    4 (4.1%)
$ 16,500    2 (2%)
$ 22,000    11 (11.2%)
More than $ 25,000    15 (15.3%)    [Note: This option was added about a day after the poll began]
Total Voters: 98

Summary: Poll indicates at least $825,600 taken from at least 98 persons.

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New poll above. For those that have property claims with bASIC. Please choose from the list where you are located in the world.
It's not entirely random. There is a reason for asking this.

Thanks!

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[MineForeman.com]

You might want to include Oceania instead of Australia, down this side of the planet (most of the planet actually) Australia is a country that does not include New Zealand.

EDIT: Autralasia is also valid, its just not used much down here.

[sveetsnelda]

BTC refund received here also (for 3 units).

[polrpaul]

WOW!

[sveetsnelda]

Yeah, with the lack of communication, I'm surprised.  I might be pulling my "Team Tommy" shirt back out of the garbage.

[PuertoLibre]

It is probably because he was touched by someone sending him a wool sweater. A bit of kindness goes a mighty long way.

[mezzomix]

If he was clever and held the BTC, he made 800k USD with our interest free credit when everything is paid back.

If he is not that clever, he screwed us customers even more by refusing waiting until the exchange rate climbed to 25 USD.

[miter_myles]

It's nice to see people starting to receive BTC back.. however, looking at this whole ordeal as a whole.. he is still a scammer and a sack of shit..   

The word "scam" should not just be looked at in the sense of losing money.. but the total mismanagement, lies, deceit and incompetence that Tom orchestrated.

[SolarSilver]

If he was clever and held the BTC, he made 800k USD with our interest free credit when everything is paid back.

Have a look at the following transaction, it's the BTC 345 refund I got

http://blockchain.info/address/15c3BkjkKTxVshZaQoxFWAbCAF1MDuL8ES

Can you tell where the BTC come from?

From the daily deposit of BTC 10 (http://blockchain.info/address/199ogzBses5fcz3VhKPTu6iLybR3ZHvAKQ) I speculate this is money coming in from mining?

[MrTeal]

It's nice to see people starting to receive BTC back.. however, looking at this whole ordeal as a whole.. he is still a scammer and a sack of shit..   

The word "scam" should not just be looked at in the sense of losing money.. but the total mismanagement, lies, deceit and incompetence that Tom orchestrated.

[agath]

It's nice to see people starting to receive BTC back.. however, looking at this whole ordeal as a whole.. he is still a scammer and a sack of shit..   

Everyone who annunced their work on ASIC projects got problems over problems, delays, and difficulties. BTCFPGA project included. Unfortunately, a business can go wrong. If people are receiving BTC back, it's great news.

You may say he could have managed better the situation, but I don't find correct insulting him this way.

[GenTarkin]

BTC refund received here also (for 3 units).

Did u get the BTC back in the amount of BTC originally paid or ... in the USD equivilant(less btc now)?

[nbtcminer]

BTC refund received here also (for 3 units).

Did u get the BTC back in the amount of BTC originally paid or ... in the USD equivilant(less btc now)?

I looked at his other post (345 BTC); he got paid the equivilant.

[miter_myles]

It's nice to see people starting to receive BTC back.. however, looking at this whole ordeal as a whole.. he is still a scammer and a sack of shit..   

Everyone who annunced their work on ASIC projects got problems over problems, delays, and difficulties. BTCFPGA project included. Unfortunately, a business can go wrong. If people are receiving BTC back, it's great news.

You may say he could have managed better the situation, but I don't find correct insulting him this way.

It's the internet

It's my opinion

Get over it

If Tom's teeth were on fire, I wouldn't even piss on his face to help put it out..

Bottoms up Tom and Team Tommy!

[Nemesis]

After dumping a huge amount yesterday, hes now wealthy enough to do refund.... hes mining to refund now.

Sweet Tommy son of the motherless goat

[repentance]

You may say he could have managed better the situation, but I don't find correct insulting him this way.

It goes beyond mere mismanagement.  The whole CAN-ELECTRIC hoax was outright fraud.  The fact that it was so transparent that people checked with the real company doesn't change that and neither does the current wave of refunds.

[miter_myles]

You may say he could have managed better the situation, but I don't find correct insulting him this way.

It goes beyond mere mismanagement.  The whole CAN-ELECTRIC hoax was outright fraud.  The fact that it was so transparent that people checked with the real company doesn't change that and neither does the current wave of refunds.

Yeah, can't forget the whole site drama-bomb too - the sympathizers and team tommy supporters have blinders on...   again - yes it is nice that BTC refunds are coming in/out.. but where were they early in Jan??  Those people could have had their coins refunded and made a nice little profit if they didn't cash out and rode the BTC value increase.. 

It seems the more discussions about legal action here on this forum, with possible (unannounced) outside actions being taken have forced Tom into finally getting shit squared away.. but the damage has already been done.. people have already been majorly screwed over with this.. intentionally or not.. people/third-parties tried and even over-extended themselves to help and assist Tom out with this situation and eventual shutdown, but his total lack of common sense and non-willingness to let people help him was 100% his fault.  His inept communication skills and apparent addiction to alcohol are huge red flags..

Even if ALL the BTC eventually gets refunded.. Tom is still a scammer, period.

[GenTarkin]

Even if ALL the BTC eventually gets refunded.. Tom is still a scammer, period.

Agree 100%

[MrTeal]

You may say he could have managed better the situation, but I don't find correct insulting him this way.

It goes beyond mere mismanagement.  The whole CAN-ELECTRIC hoax was outright fraud.  The fact that it was so transparent that people checked with the real company doesn't change that and neither does the current wave of refunds.

It will be interesting to see what comes of that. The Can Electric website is down right now coincidentally, but if there really is no affiliation and Tom decided to pick a random company and pose as them, I wouldn't be shocked to see him end up with criminal proceedings filed against him.