Seccour (OP)
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Activity: 1619
Merit: 1004
Bitcoiner, Crypto-anarchist and Cypherpunk.
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April 17, 2016, 08:48:57 AM Last edit: December 01, 2016, 07:42:32 PM by Seccour |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdytRAAz.png&t=665&c=P8u93rBh3NQlYA) List of useful link :- IOTA official website : Here.
- IOTA official forum : Here.
- IOTA official chat : Here.
- IOTA ANN thread : Here.
Warning : I do not verify sellers identity or IOTA address. If you are doing a deal with a user without escrow, it will be your problem if the seller scam you. I also recommend you to wait until Come-from-Beyond confirm that their will be no rollback to ask your IOTA from the seller. If you don't trust the seller enough, you can also use someone as an escrow ( But don't choose a new account to be the escrow for your deal or it will be useless ). I can provide escrow services for free for those who want. List of accounts that try to scam people using fake quotes of me or other escrow :
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Seccour (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1619
Merit: 1004
Bitcoiner, Crypto-anarchist and Cypherpunk.
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April 17, 2016, 08:49:09 AM Last edit: April 17, 2016, 09:12:57 AM by Seccour |
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April 17, 2016, 09:06:02 AM |
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I'll speculate a $200 million marketcap 4 weeks after launch.
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April 17, 2016, 09:27:43 AM Last edit: April 17, 2016, 09:39:14 AM by achimsmile |
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Exchanges could allow to trade lots of 1 million iotas minimum.
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April 17, 2016, 09:28:13 AM Last edit: May 06, 2016, 10:57:24 AM by yassin54 |
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Update11!!
This seller @tobeaj2mer01 sold 1,840.049.522 T-IOTA for @BigIOTABig for 15.5 btc, 475,299.801 G-IOTA for @CryptKeeper for 4 btc, 961,717.726 G-IOTA for @bitfromit for 8 Btc, 55,590.620 G-IOTA for @Tilfo for 0.5btc
This seller @duluth sold 222,362.480 G-IOTA for @BigIOTABig for 2BTC
This seller @anewafresh sold 1,389.765.500 T-IOTA for @BigIOTABig for 14BTC
This seller @titan20 sold 1,111.812.400 T-IOTA for @BigIOTABig for 12BTC
This seller @thetreebro sold 472,520.270 G-IOTA for @hoertest for 5BTC
This seller @AlfredDulaire sold 1,111.812.400 T-IOTA for @dddma for 10BTC Transaction confirmed
This seller @aStegosaurus sold 361,339.030 G-IOTA for @dddma for 3.5 btc
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April 17, 2016, 09:48:50 AM |
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@yassin54 : no decimal point missing in your iotas there? That's cheap iota for sure...
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April 17, 2016, 09:52:37 AM |
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@yassin54 : no decimal point missing in your iotas there? That's cheap iota for sure...
1 "old" IOTA is now equal to 2 779 531 "new" IOTA : http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/iota-tech-update/264/1
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April 17, 2016, 09:54:42 AM |
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@yassin54 : no decimal point missing in your iotas there? That's cheap iota for sure...
no decimals more. but we have bigger supply. in ternary 111 111 111 111 111 111 111 111 111 111 111 .
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April 17, 2016, 10:10:16 AM |
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Oops, sorry, I've been out for a week, getting up to date now, things are moving fast in Iota ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 17, 2016, 10:34:06 AM |
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I´m selling 694882750000 IOTA for 7.5 BTC
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April 17, 2016, 10:39:40 AM |
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April 17, 2016, 11:54:22 AM Last edit: April 17, 2016, 01:17:17 PM by P-Funk |
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I'd like to nip the unit question in the bud and say that 10,000,000 (10M) atomic iotas should be "united" into a tradeable, human-understandable decimalized token referred to commonly as IOTA. So the 30,000 old-IOTA I sold OTC for 1 BTC is now 83,385,930,000 atomic iotas (could be called αIOTA or aIOTA) or 8338.593 "IOTA"
With 10M atomic iota/IOTA units this puts the total IOTA supply (as you would see at coinmarketcap.com for example) at 277,953,028.3277761. The price my buyer paid per IOTA would be 1 / 8338.593 = 0.00011992 BTC which is much better understood to cryptocurrency markets than 0.0011992 satoshis.
I'd like to see the JS client UI also use the decimalized IOTA I'm proposing. In the backend it can still be atomic with no decimals. But for people, services, and exchanges, there should be a standardized unit that is put forward by the IOTA team. Ethereum for example uses an atomic unit called "wei" on the network, but has built-in units going up to "ether" to decimalize the units and make them easily tradeable and human-understandable.
I understand that IOTA isn't necessarily meant to be used mostly by people, however to be a token of value it needs to be traded on markets. To not put forward an official decimalized token would lead to deleterious effects on its market adoption, liquidity, and value.
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April 17, 2016, 12:00:40 PM |
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I'd like to nip the unit question in the bud and say that 10,000,000 (10M) atomic iotas should be "united" into a tradeable, human-understandable decimalized token referred to commonly as IOTA. So the 30,000 old-IOTA is now 83,385,930,000 atomic iotas (could be called αIOTA or aIOTA) or 8338.593 "IOTA"
With 10M atomic iota/IOTA units this puts the total IOTA supply (as you would see at coinmarketcap.com for example) at 277,953,028.3277761. The price my buyer paid per IOTA would be 1 / 8338.593 = 0.00011992 BTC which is much better understood to cryptocurrency markets than 0.0011992 satoshis.
I'd like to see the JS client UI also use the decimalized IOTA I'm proposing. In the backend it can still be atomic with no decimals. But for people, services, and exchanges, there should be a standardized unit that is put forward by the IOTA team. Ethereum for example uses an atomic unit called "wei" on the network, but has built-in units going up to "ether" to decimalize the units and make them easily tradeable and human-understandable.
I understand that IOTA isn't necessarily meant to be used mostly by people, however to be a token of value it needs to be traded on markets. To not put forward an official decimalized token would lead to deleterious effects on its market adoption, liquidity, and value.
Why not 100M ? It would be better comparable with BTC and satosis.
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April 17, 2016, 12:07:52 PM |
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@yassin54 : no decimal point missing in your iotas there? That's cheap iota for sure...
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Why not 100M ? It would be better comparable with BTC and satosis.
I didn't cover my thoughts on 10M in the post but here they are: This is really about 2 things, making a liquid BTC-paired market possible and trader psychology. Firstly, I think using anything but a power of 10 would be a mistake, so 1, 10, or 100 million atomic iota to IOTA units should be considered. 1M would be a lower bound possibility in my mind, giving a supply of 2,779,530,283 decimalized units. But there are issues with coins trading in the hundreds of satoshi range. This is my own opinion but maybe it's shared. For one the price doesn't seem substantial enough and feel cheap. For USD/GBP/Euro-imprinted traders it can be hard to translate a price of 1000 satoshis into what they're used to using in day to day life. 10M on the other hand would be priced near USD cents. 100M would be an upper bound, giving a total supply of 27,795,302 decimalized units. I don't believe this supply is enough and would lead to the tokens looking too expensive. I could be wrong about this, and perhaps perceived scarcity could have a positive effect on price. But I don't think it would help liquidity. 10M carves a good balance between the extremes. The total decimalized supply of IOTA ends up being 277,953,028.3277761. The price (at current OTC IOU rates at least) would fall at about 0.0001 BTC/IOTA. This leaves plenty of room for the token's price to go up or down and still have a functional liquid market. It has enough value to not seem borderline worthless for 1 like NXT or XRP does. Its value could be more easily estimated in cents or pence for the bulk of us who are accustomed to thinking of monetary value in those terms.
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April 17, 2016, 12:30:32 PM |
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Why not 100M ? It would be better comparable with BTC and satosis.
I didn't cover my thoughts on 10M in the post but here they are: This is really about 2 things, making a liquid BTC-paired market possible and trader psychology. Firstly, I think using anything but a power of 10 would be a mistake, so 1, 10, or 100 million atomic iota to IOTA units should be considered. 1M would be a lower bound possibility in my mind, giving a supply of 2,779,530,283 decimalized units. But there are issues with coins trading in the hundreds of satoshi range. This is my own opinion but maybe it's shared. For one the price doesn't seem substantial enough and feel cheap. For USD/GBP/Euro-imprinted traders it can be hard to translate a price of 1000 satoshis into what they're used to using in day to day life. 10M on the other hand would be priced near USD cents. 100M would be an upper bound, giving a total supply of 27,795,302 decimalized units. I don't believe this supply is enough and would lead to the tokens looking too expensive. I could be wrong about this, and perhaps perceived scarcity could have a positive effect on price. But I don't think it would help liquidity. 10M carves a good balance between the extremes. The total decimalized supply of IOTA ends up being 277,953,028.3277761. The price (at current OTC IOU rates at least) would fall at about 0.0001 BTC/IOTA. This leaves plenty of room for the token's price to go up or down and still have a functional liquid market. It has enough value to not seem borderline worthless for 1 like NXT or XRP does. Its value could be more easily measured in cents or pence for the bulk of us who are accustomed to thinking of monetary value in those terms. If not power of 10, then rather power of 3... In ternary. But trading unit not for math people, it's for traders. right it is psychology. Then rather power of 10...
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Exactly, using 10M atomic iota as a tradeable IOTA unit is purely for people and to keep a usable liquid market. The backend and m2m still can use atomic units in ternary without trouble.
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April 17, 2016, 12:58:32 PM Last edit: April 17, 2016, 11:52:56 PM by Tobo |
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1 million as the base unit looks pretty good to me. We can call it mega-iota as some suggested. So we will have 2,779,530,283 Mega-iota which is 2.7795 times of the old iota. The one mega-iota's price will be the current old iota price divided by 2.7795. For instance if the current old iota's price is 2000 satoshi, the new mega-iota's price is 2000/2.7795=720 satoshi.
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April 17, 2016, 01:14:20 PM |
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Anyone willing to sell at rate of 100K (old) for 1 btc? Or make me offer Im open to negotiation, but only with escrow.
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