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May 20, 2016, 12:56:37 PM
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can we just get a vote from all the iota holders to allocate 5% of their holding to the foundation in the genesis?

there are several advantages to this.
1) it will take into account the opinion of the majority of active stakeholders, which is good enough.
2) if we truly care about the tech and the direction of the project then the future should *only* lie on the hands of those who really care.
3) it will happen at the genesis distribution, so it is much easier than collecting all the pledges.

Also, "calling for donation" is a lengthy and ineffective process because the message and the gravity of the matter may not reach all the targeted audience. while the announcement of a vote and and the voting process will be more effective and more accurately gauging the interest of the active stakeholders.

If we cannot reach the target fund required, we cannot say that the "community" is not interested. because clearly the "Active community" is interested while only the "idle and speculator part" remains inactive and could be counted out. Just like if you do not cast your vote at the election, you lose your say on who will be leading the country (you are even penalised in where i come from).

Apparently, decision on the foundation is an easy one, those remain inactive will do so no matter what we do, so just find a way around them. They will have a few choices, vote no and see their hoard going down the drain OR remain silent and let the majority cast their opinions OR say yes and we move on with a favourable decision.

TLDR; I say we just have a vote using the btc address and nxt address used at the crowdsale. one address for yes and one address for no, anyone interested and eligible should send their corresponding votes,by sending a set amount of btc or nxt (a few cents in fiat term), and we can aggregate the result.
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May 20, 2016, 01:11:25 PM
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can we just get a vote from all the iota holders to allocate 5% of their holding to the foundation in the genesis?

there are several advantages to this.
1) it will take into account the opinion of the majority of active stakeholders, which is good enough.
2) if we truly care about the tech and the direction of the project then the future should *only* lie on the hands of those who really care.
3) it will happen at the genesis distribution, so it is much easier than collecting all the pledges.

Also, "calling for donation" is a lengthy and ineffective process because the message and the gravity of the matter may not reach all the targeted audience. while the announcement of a vote and and the voting process will be more effective and more accurately gauging the interest of the active stakeholders.

If we cannot reach the target fund required, we cannot say that the "community" is not interested. because clearly the "Active community" is interested while only the "idle and speculator part" remains inactive and could be counted out. Just like if you do not cast your vote at the election, you lose your say on who will be leading the country (you are even penalised in where i come from).

Apparently, decision on the foundation is an easy one, those remain inactive will do so no matter what we do, so just find a way around them. They will have a few choices, vote no and see their hoard going down the drain OR remain silent and let the majority cast their opinions OR say yes and we move on with a favourable decision.

TLDR; I say we just have a vote using the btc address and nxt address used at the crowdsale. one address for yes and one address for no, anyone interested and eligible should send their corresponding votes,by sending a set amount of btc or nxt (a few cents in fiat term), and we can aggregate the result.

I agree with voting! I'd like that foundation will take 50m(old) IOTAs!
Let's start voting!
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May 20, 2016, 01:46:07 PM
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let's all give 10 procent
(cfb can take 10% from my genesis account)

imho, give is right thing 4 all, give to, not vote to

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May 20, 2016, 03:15:14 PM
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My up to date sale amounts:

111,181,240,000.00    @ 1 btc          cc001
333,543,720,000.00    @ 3btc           schnib
222,362,480,000.00    @ 2btc           Metaphilibert
111,181,240,000.00    @ 1 btc          Yeash20
333,543,720,000.00    @ 3 btc          arjen01
166,771,860,000.00    @ 1.5btc        MoneyTeam
11,118,124,000.00      @ 0.1btc        tk88one
138,976,550,000.00    @ 1.25 btc      proto
22,236,248,000.00      @ 0.2 btc       adam9910
222,362,480,000.00    @ 2 btc          Dexter12
8,894,499,200,000.00  @ 80 Btc        bigiotabig
55,590,620,000.00      @ 0.5 Btc       Torn
111,181,240,000.00    @ 1 btc          zzzman20
111,181,240,000.00    @ 1 btc          transpotime21bus
22,236,248,000          @ 0.2 btc       adam9910
333,543,720,000.00    @ 3 btc          ramsroyal
222,362,480,000.00    @ 2 btc          mr001
113,960,771,000        @ 1.025 btc     braelis
544,788,076,000        @ 4.9 btc        [anon]
55,590,620,000          @ 0.5 btc        SupZ
200G                       @ 2 btc           hasseklas

Selling 4,000G IOTA for sale at a rate of 1 BTC == 120G IOTA. Please contact me if you are interested!
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May 20, 2016, 05:03:40 PM
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Just to make one thing clear, IOTA is not a Crypto currency! IOTA is a IOT (Internet Of Things) token/platform.

Crypto currency << Gets value by speculators and usage in Monetary system.

IOT token << Gets Value by usage of IOT devices and big company's using and investing in it.


If foundation won't get funded, not only will adoption be near to zero, but most of all will IOTA be copied by other players/company's. And very likely(and fully understandable) will the devs support this.
I a result the IOTA tokens you bought will get meaningless and at most have a market cap of IPO price. More likely though will value drop way below that!

Should the foundation get funded (and preferably "Big Deal" as well), then your chance of making a profit of a magnitude you cant imagine yet will rise drastically.

Nothing is guaranteed, but one thing is for sure, that if foundation wont get funded IOTA wont go any where (at least not with you and me on the boat).



^^Just for those that think there IOTA tokens are to precious to part with. ^^
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May 20, 2016, 05:51:08 PM
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It would be wise to start accepting the IOTA for the Foundation as soon as possible, but I guess this is already in the works?
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May 20, 2016, 06:02:31 PM
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Yes, as soon as tasting has come to an point where IOTA is stable enough that a role back is very unlikely, a donation address will be published
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May 20, 2016, 07:18:25 PM
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It would be wise to start accepting the IOTA for the Foundation as soon as possible, but I guess this is already in the works?
Dont worry, when IOTA is stable, count on me to let you know  Wink Kiss Kiss
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May 21, 2016, 12:41:27 PM
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Just to make one thing clear, IOTA is not a Crypto currency! IOTA is a IOT (Internet Of Things) token/platform.

Crypto currency << Gets value by speculators and usage in Monetary system.

IOT token << Gets Value by usage of IOT devices and big company's using and investing in it.


If foundation won't get funded, not only will adoption be near to zero, but most of all will IOTA be copied by other players/company's. And very likely(and fully understandable) will the devs support this.
I a result the IOTA tokens you bought will get meaningless and at most have a market cap of IPO price. More likely though will value drop way below that!

Should the foundation get funded (and preferably "Big Deal" as well), then your chance of making a profit of a magnitude you cant imagine yet will rise drastically.

Nothing is guaranteed, but one thing is for sure, that if foundation wont get funded IOTA wont go any where (at least not with you and me on the boat).



^^Just for those that think there IOTA tokens are to precious to part with. ^^

That's what makes it so damn sexy. I have more hope for IOTA than Ethereum, value and usefulness wise.

FOR RENT.
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May 21, 2016, 12:48:07 PM
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That's what makes it so damn sexy. I have more hope for IOTA than Ethereum, value and usefulness wise.

me too. I find it extremely interesting what is happening with ETH right now.

This is a speculation hysteria JUGGERNAUT. Now what will happen when it does not scale? Ay Caramba, Once again, there won't be enough popcorn in the universe to go with the ensuing drama.

Opposed to that we have IOTA, which is somehow mostly overlooked by speculators, but which will scale.
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May 23, 2016, 11:58:12 AM
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That's what makes it so damn sexy. I have more hope for IOTA than Ethereum, value and usefulness wise.

me too. I find it extremely interesting what is happening with ETH right now.

This is a speculation hysteria JUGGERNAUT. Now what will happen when it does not scale? Ay Caramba, Once again, there won't be enough popcorn in the universe to go with the ensuing drama.

Opposed to that we have IOTA, which is somehow mostly overlooked by speculators, but which will scale.

Overlooked? It's not released yet and has many speculators. Much more than the over hyped lisk. 

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May 23, 2016, 12:02:17 PM
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That's what makes it so damn sexy. I have more hope for IOTA than Ethereum, value and usefulness wise.

me too. I find it extremely interesting what is happening with ETH right now.

This is a speculation hysteria JUGGERNAUT. Now what will happen when it does not scale? Ay Caramba, Once again, there won't be enough popcorn in the universe to go with the ensuing drama.

Opposed to that we have IOTA, which is somehow mostly overlooked by speculators, but which will scale.

Overlooked? It's not released yet and has many speculators. Much more than the over hyped lisk.  
I think it's fair to say that if IOTA had been launched today then it's initial sale would have been much more successful. In that way it has been overlooked.

This doesn't affect it's potential, however.
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May 23, 2016, 05:12:01 PM
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IOTA testing of 0.9.9
http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/iota-testing-of-0-9-9-has-commenced/274/1
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May 23, 2016, 11:37:33 PM
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My up to date sale amounts:

111,181,240,000.00    @ 1 btc          cc001
333,543,720,000.00    @ 3btc           schnib
222,362,480,000.00    @ 2btc           Metaphilibert
111,181,240,000.00    @ 1 btc          Yeash20
333,543,720,000.00    @ 3 btc          arjen01
166,771,860,000.00    @ 1.5btc        MoneyTeam
11,118,124,000.00      @ 0.1btc        tk88one
138,976,550,000.00    @ 1.25 btc      proto
22,236,248,000.00      @ 0.2 btc       adam9910
222,362,480,000.00    @ 2 btc          Dexter12
8,894,499,200,000.00  @ 80 Btc        bigiotabig
55,590,620,000.00      @ 0.5 Btc       Torn
111,181,240,000.00    @ 1 btc          zzzman20
111,181,240,000.00    @ 1 btc          transpotime21bus
22,236,248,000          @ 0.2 btc       adam9910
333,543,720,000.00    @ 3 btc          ramsroyal
222,362,480,000.00    @ 2 btc          mr001
113,960,771,000        @ 1.025 btc     braelis
544,788,076,000        @ 4.9 btc        [anon]
55,590,620,000          @ 0.5 btc        SupZ
200G                       @ 2 btc           hasseklas

Selling 4,000G IOTA for sale at a rate of 1 BTC == 120G IOTA. Please contact me if you are interested!
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May 24, 2016, 06:14:58 AM
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Testing 0.9.9 !!  Here it comes. Last, Last Chance!!

Get in at the last minute from the Top Selling, Most Trusted Iota Seller!



   8 batches added!!  125G iota per batch.

(125,000,000,000 iota) or 44,972 for those learning new notations

.85 BTC per Batch


      
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OLD LIST

OLD                    NEW                       PRICE

22,500       NOW   62,539,447,500     0.75   BTC         Skormie               straight-sale
22,500       NOW   62,539,447,500     0.75   BTC         Wesgen                straight-sale
46,000       NOW   127,858,426,000   1.50   BTC         peer2peer360        Seccour
22,500       NOW   62,539,447,500     0.75   BTC         peer2peer360       straight-sale
22,500       NOW   62,539,447,500     0.75   BTC         csdndownload       straight-sale
22,500       NOW   62,539,447,500     0.75   BTC         nextblast             straight-sale
22,500       NOW   62,539,447,500     0.75   BTC         CryptoMrM           straight-sale
22,500       NOW   62,539,447,500     0.75   BTC         Nextblast             straight-sale
120,000     NOW   333,543,720,000    2.80   BTC         BlackFor3st          straight-sale
90,000       NOW   250,157,790,000   2.10   BTC         Nanuk                  straight-sale
218,602     NOW   607,611,035,662    5.10   BTC         Nextblast             straight-sale
180,000     NOW   500,315,580,000    4.20   BTC         passtracker          straight-sale
270,000     NOW   750,473,370,000    5.70   BTC         Ruiz                    straight-sale
50,000      NOW   138,976,550,000    0.95   BTC         AlphaDet              straight-sale
100,000     NOW   277,953,100,000   1.90   BTC         Emperor of Man     straight-sale
150,000     NOW   416,929,650,000   2.85   BTC         Aragoon                straight-sale
50,000      NOW   138,976,550,000    0.95   BTC         Termie                straight-sale
45,000      NOW   125,078,895,000    0.95   BTC         BlackFor3st          straight-sale
500,000      NOW  1,389,765,500,000          BTC         Bubbletea789        straight-sale
                PRIVATE DEAL             28.5     BTC         Bubbletea789        straight-sale
               NEW   750G IOTA                5    BTC         Ruiz                  straight-sale
               NEW   375G IOTA            2.55   BTC         arjen01               straight-sale
               NEW   500G IOTA            3.4    BTC         bitcoinuserz              straight-sale
               NEW   125G IOTA            0.85   BTC         CryptKeeper          straight-sale
               NEW   125G IOTA            0.85   BTC         koYnsta                straight-sale
               NEW   250G IOTA            1.7     BTC         Niemand                straight-sale









Congrats to Niemand on his 2 Batch purchase!!!

Thanks for the business!!



The 8 batches that are left are straight sales directly through me.

Get em while you can!



You too, can still squeak in at the last moment and join us as an early adopter!!! Be Smart and ......




....BUY NOW!!




*The the process is completed when I receive the BTC payment. At that time you will receive confirmation that you have been added to the list of buyers that will be sent Iotas as soon a CFB gives the green light to do so.




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May 24, 2016, 06:40:39 AM
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there are plenty of space behind 0.9.9.XXX

it will be live when it is ready

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May 24, 2016, 12:39:37 PM
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Get in at the last minute from the Top Selling, Most Trusted Iota Seller!


Excuse me, but all of these claims appear to be outright misinformation. I don't think we should need to stretch the truth in order to make our sales...
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May 24, 2016, 10:33:19 PM
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Get in at the last minute from the Top Selling, Most Trusted Iota Seller!


Excuse me, but all of these claims appear to be outright misinformation. I don't think we should need to stretch the truth in order to make our sales...


Sorry _mr_e

I guess you have sold more Iota than me, I was counting the number of sales.



Were all on the same side here.

I apologize if it sounded any different. No offense intended. Good luck with your sales. Peace Cool
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May 25, 2016, 09:30:52 PM
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IOTA testing of 0.9.11
http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/iota-testing-of-0-9-11-has-commenced/274/1
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May 26, 2016, 12:25:46 PM
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Update12!!

This seller @tobeaj2mer01 sold 1,840.049.522 T-IOTA for @BigIOTABig for 15.5 btc, 475,299.801 G-IOTA for @CryptKeeper for 4 btc, 961,717.726 G-IOTA for @bitfromit for 8 Btc, 55,590.620 G-IOTA for @Tilfo for 0.5btc

This seller @duluth  sold 222,362.480 G-IOTA for @BigIOTABig for 2BTC

This seller @anewafresh sold 1,389.765.500 T-IOTA for @BigIOTABig for 14BTC  Transaction Cancelled

This seller @titan20 sold 1,111.812.400 T-IOTA for @BigIOTABig for 12BTC

This seller @thetreebro sold 472,520.270 G-IOTA for @hoertest for 5BTC

This seller @AlfredDulaire sold 1,111.812.400 T-IOTA for @dddma for 10BTC  Transaction confirmed

This seller @aStegosaurus sold 361,339.030 G-IOTA for @dddma for 3.5 btc
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