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April 18, 2016, 09:55:03 PM |
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That sounds like the start of the end for Ethereum. When you can't even manage to keep an forum online. Let me guess big salary for the creators and now is there own wallet empty.
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April 18, 2016, 09:57:08 PM |
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Ethereum.org's loss is bitcointalk's gain.
I guess all the activity can just migrate to the altcoin forum.
Was there a lot of activity in the first place? I've had the impression that it's a place that attracts relatively few interested parties. According to the OP, there was activity and it was the only place with such activity. In any case $300/month isn't much... |
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April 18, 2016, 09:58:08 PM |
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Ethereum.org's loss is bitcointalk's gain.
I guess all the activity can just migrate to the altcoin forum.
Was there a lot of activity in the first place? I've had the impression that it's a place that attracts relatively few interested parties. According to the OP, there was activity and it was the only place with such activity. In any case $300/month isn't much... How does the OP fix the cost at $300? Is this official information? |
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April 19, 2016, 12:36:56 AM |
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Lisk Devs are much smarter with investors money www.Lisk.chat costs $0/month |
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April 19, 2016, 01:02:21 AM |
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I think it's probably the case of learning from their mistakes, and over reacting in the other direction. They've decided to cut out any unnecessary spending. I don't know the complete situation, but it seems logical if someone with web business acumen contacts them with a proposition. They could turn that forum into a money maker. Place some Google ad's, tweak some SEO keywords, link backs etc..
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April 19, 2016, 01:16:50 AM |
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what a strange move..doesn't give a good impression really.
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April 19, 2016, 01:22:35 AM |
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this vaporware have made ton of millionaires, profits is secured and in smart people pockets right now. they rather passing this kind of drama back to the dumb morons and bagholders. |
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April 19, 2016, 07:31:23 AM |
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Completely ridiculous. Besides, I doubt same forum couldn't be run for around 100 USD/mo. Telling this because I run the site for little more and it's dedicated Core I7 server with 8 GB RAM/500 GB HDD on a fast link. That kind of hardware is cabable of running very busy forums. |
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April 19, 2016, 09:50:32 AM |
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When these are your out-goings : 22,000 EUR per month for C++ development (down by ~75%)
65,000 EUR per month for Go development (down by ~10%)
5,000 EUR per month for Python development (down by ~50%)
13,000 EUR per month for IT, hosting, maintaining build servers, release coordination, etc (down by ~35% with more cuts likely coming soon)
6,000 EUR per month for communications (down by ~85%)
20,000 EUR per month for research (roughly unchanged)
40,000 EUR per month for top-level administrative and executive staff, accounting, office management, legal and other expenses (down by ~50% with more cuts likely coming soon)
( Taken from the latest blog post https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/01/07/2394/ ) ..It is impossible that they are shutting the forums down due to financial reasons. Certainly not because of a pissy $300 a month. There is obviously more to it. Just don't know what.. .. ps.. That is some serious cash they are burning through.. |
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April 19, 2016, 11:09:57 AM |
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Oh wow. I guess they arn't going to take over the #1 crypto spot any time soon.
I don't understand why they didn't just ask the forum users to donate a few coins to keep the forums going.
Multiple forum members offered to cover the cost completely and the devs weren't interested in letting them continue the forums. Asking the community to pay $300 / month, 2 years after community paid you $18 mil it's embarrassing. |
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April 19, 2016, 11:14:35 AM |
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To me, this feels more of a joke, they have to think right and plan on self sustaining mechanisms
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April 19, 2016, 11:46:02 AM |
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That is actually pretty crazy how do you mismanage that much money.
300$ a month is noting all they had to do was make a post about it and they could raise 10 times that in a hour.
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April 19, 2016, 05:24:16 PM |
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It's cringeworthy really. Thanks for the informative post, OP.
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April 19, 2016, 07:52:24 PM |
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Financials are probably just an excuse to wind down operations before the fatal flaws in the code are exposed?
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April 19, 2016, 07:57:26 PM |
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Coding and business are separate. Good thing they can always raise more money by issuing ETH 2.0
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April 19, 2016, 08:11:47 PM |
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Some comments:
1) If the reason(s) for shutting down the forums to save $300/month is truly negative, then we would have seen some (heavy?) insider ETH dumping, possibly crashing the price.
2) If salaried people were spending time interacting/perusing on the forum, the cost per month would be a lot more than $300 because you have to include their labor.
3) As long as we are speculating, what we maybe witnessing is a change in management which is resulting in a tightening up in spending and getting staff to focus. The forum may have been seen as a time sink for the paid ETH staff.
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April 19, 2016, 09:00:17 PM |
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When these are your out-goings : 22,000 EUR per month for C++ development (down by ~75%)
65,000 EUR per month for Go development (down by ~10%)
5,000 EUR per month for Python development (down by ~50%)
13,000 EUR per month for IT, hosting, maintaining build servers, release coordination, etc (down by ~35% with more cuts likely coming soon)
6,000 EUR per month for communications (down by ~85%)
20,000 EUR per month for research (roughly unchanged)
40,000 EUR per month for top-level administrative and executive staff, accounting, office management, legal and other expenses (down by ~50% with more cuts likely coming soon)
( Taken from the latest blog post https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/01/07/2394/ ) ..It is impossible that they are shutting the forums down due to financial reasons. Certainly not because of a pissy $300 a month. There is obviously more to it. Just don't know what.. .. ps.. That is some serious cash they are burning through.. That is serious cash they are burning. It's a bit like what went on in the dot com era when start-up capital was burned through extravagantly and then they all crashed and burned when the money ran out. I wonder if the real cost of the forum was the 13000 EUR listed for "IT hosting" etc - in other words they are paying over the odds for someone to manage the forum. |
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April 19, 2016, 10:51:07 PM |
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. . . I personally prefer Bitcointalk anyway  |
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April 20, 2016, 03:57:10 AM |
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ETH doesn't have mass user base as Bitcoin for sure.
I am sure bitcoin talk cost more, but there are many donators.
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April 20, 2016, 04:29:35 AM |
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That sounds like the start of the end for Ethereum. When you can't even manage to keep an forum online. Let me guess big salary for the creators and now is there own wallet empty.
I agree, Ethereum has run its course and now i almost time for it unfold. Until it come up with something milestone worthy |
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