Pig Farm Investment. 5 % Monthly. Has been running for 6 months.

[Vod]

well, thank you for the negatif trust,
but you can see, i never offer 180 % annualy
for monthly there is only 160 % plus principal or for weekly 165 % plus principal annualy.

You can't even do your own math correctly.  

5% monthly is 1.05 to the power of 12 months

1.05 ^ 12 = 179.59% interest.

What?  You just took 1.05 and multiplied by 12?  You don't even understand how compound interest works... yet you offer it...

[xhomerx10]

well, thank you for the negatif trust,
but you can see, i never offer 180 % annualy
for monthly there is only 160 % plus principal or for weekly 165 % plus principal annualy.

You can't even do your own math correctly.  

5% monthly is 1.05 to the power of 12 months

1.05 ^ 12 = 179.59% interest.

What?  You just took 1.05 and multiplied by 12?  You don't even understand how compound interest works... yet you offer it...

 Hold on Vod.  He said he was paying the interest monthly so in this case there is no compounding involved.

[iSimantri]

well, thank you for the negatif trust,
but you can see, i never offer 180 % annualy
for monthly there is only 160 % plus principal or for weekly 165 % plus principal annualy.

You can't even do your own math correctly.  

5% monthly is 1.05 to the power of 12 months

1.05 ^ 12 = 179.59% interest.

What?  You just took 1.05 and multiplied by 12?  You don't even understand how compound interest works... yet you offer it...

Please read at post #1, at Additional information, there is No Compounding.
Compounding is dangerous for me to run long term project. I already explain too when replying this thread.

[Vod]

Hold on Vod.  He said he was paying the interest monthly so in this case there is no compounding involved.

He writes in post #1 that you can take your interest from month one and reinvest it.  That is compound interest.  Interest earned is now gaining it's own interest.

at first month you receive $ 20 interest and you decide to re invest.

so we count as new investment and will be like this :

investment #1 = $ 400 and 11 month remaining.
investment #2 = $ 20 and 12 month remaining.

[netmonk]

Hold on Vod.  He said he was paying the interest monthly so in this case there is no compounding involved.

He writes in post #1 that you can take your interest from month one and reinvest it.  That is compound interest.  Interest earned is now gaining it's own interest.

at first month you receive $ 20 interest and you decide to re invest.

so we count as new investment and will be like this :

investment #1 = $ 400 and 11 month remaining.
investment #2 = $ 20 and 12 month remaining.

You cannot exit all after one year.

[Vod]

Now, if the OP had said you could NOT reinvest your interest, than that wouldn't be compound interest.  You would only be getting 160% return a year instead of 180% return.

Still very unsustainable and thus a ponzi.  If the OP could make that kind of return everyone would be lining up to invest in him.   

[netmonk]

Making the nature work for you can be a very profitable business.
You just have to like break your back, grab the food on the floor, and clean the shit of animals

I  have member of my family in the cow business, and i can tell you that they are not poor. But 99% of people prefer to commute in city, sit in front of computer for 8hours and watch tv and in return have low income.

The main point is that female are producing new pigs for you. And the pig demands is always high as it is basic food.
May be he will not be able to reimburse the initial investment in one year, may be we will have to wait more for being profitable given all the data.
But i least im please to see bitcoin used in real life economy and not only on speculation side.

[iSimantri]

Now, if the OP had said you could NOT reinvest your interest, than that wouldn't be compound interest.  You would only be getting 160% return a year instead of 180% return.

Still very unsustainable and thus a ponzi.  If the OP could make that kind of return everyone would be lining up to invest in him.   

Sometimes sustainable and unsustainable there are in a thin line. I will recalculate how much the total do i need to build my farm.
I will only raise funds as much as I needed. when it's reach, i will stop receiving investment.

Anyway, thank you Vod, please keep your eye to this thread, an honor if you keep reminding investors and fund managers.

[Vod]

Well if you think negative trust for trying to steal from others is a good thing, you are an idiot.   

[iSimantri]

Well if you think negative trust for trying to steal from others is a good thing, you are an idiot.   

yes,it's a good thing, to motivate myself work in real world, and keep the trust of people who already support me here.

[codehtcmail]

This is supposing a perfect pig farm all the time, what if a pig is sick ? a delivery is delayed ? climate condition change ?....
Too many factors you don't take in consideration.

[iSimantri]

This is supposing a perfect pig farm all the time, what if a pig is sick ? a delivery is delayed ? climate condition change ?....
Too many factors you don't take in consideration.

sustains the living beings, there must always be death, illness, piglet death when birth, etc.

i don't describe this farm so perfect, there is always 1 % factor : lucky

if you read my plan above, i try to maintain the possibility of many factors like you said above.

[xhomerx10]

Hold on Vod.  He said he was paying the interest monthly so in this case there is no compounding involved.

He writes in post #1 that you can take your interest from month one and reinvest it.  That is compound interest.  Interest earned is now gaining it's own interest.

at first month you receive $ 20 interest and you decide to re invest.

so we count as new investment and will be like this :

investment #1 = $ 400 and 11 month remaining.
investment #2 = $ 20 and 12 month remaining.

 Thanks for the heads up.  I don't think that was written in the initial post.  Looks like OP is trying to incorporate the concerns as they are mentioned.

[Vod]

Thanks for the heads up.  I don't think that was written in the initial post.  Looks like OP is trying to incorporate the concerns as they are mentioned.

I don't think he has any clue of what he is doing.

He states over and over again there is no compounding, yet he is paying compound interest.   

The entire pig farm is just BS - there is no pig farm.  This is a simple ponzi to fool simple minds.

[Phildo]

Where will the money that you use to pay the first week's interest payment come from?

How i will pay you ?

Because I have to pay monthly, while breeding pigs need time 155 days, so I'll use half the investment to buy and sell piglets.
I will buy piglets from local farmers and sell to piglets collectors. This will give a profit to pay your interest, untill sow began to produce.

buy and sell piglets is a fastest way to get fast profit, profit margin is 5% - 10 % each, this usually take 3 - 7 days process.
but this depend on luck, more can buy, the more profit.
the process like this :
i'm buying piglets from local people who only have 1 or 2 sow, collect piglets and sell them to bigger colector.

Are there enough piglet collectors to allow you to pay out for the first 155 days?

Why would they go through you?

How much of the money that has been invested already went to piglets and how much to breeding pigs?

How much money are you putting into this project?

[iSimantri]

Where will the money that you use to pay the first week's interest payment come from?

How i will pay you ?

Because I have to pay monthly, while breeding pigs need time 155 days, so I'll use half the investment to buy and sell piglets.
I will buy piglets from local farmers and sell to piglets collectors. This will give a profit to pay your interest, untill sow began to produce.

buy and sell piglets is a fastest way to get fast profit, profit margin is 5% - 10 % each, this usually take 3 - 7 days process.
but this depend on luck, more can buy, the more profit.
the process like this :
i'm buying piglets from local people who only have 1 or 2 sow, collect piglets and sell them to bigger colector.

Are there enough piglet collectors to allow you to pay out for the first 155 days?

Why would they go through you?

How much of the money that has been invested already went to piglets and how much to breeding pigs?

How much money are you putting into this project?

bigger piglets collector will not go door to door to every house to buy only 1 - 5 piglets from local farmer, they buy in the number a lot, 20 and above. i act as middleman, going around, looking for local farmer that only have a few piglets, buy from them , and when the number enough, the bigger colecctor will take it.

I'm just starting again this farm,From my side, I borrowed money of $ 700, and I bought one sows and 10 piglets,and also for the pig food you can see in the picture.

Money from investor, I will use when it's confirmed, you can always check blockchain, because i will only use 1 address to receive investment.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Pics of piglets or it didn't happen.

[iSimantri]

Pics of piglets or it didn't happen.

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[netmonk]

Why do i invest ?

I always though that to make Bitcoin successfull, we have to shift it to real economy.
Since the begining it is just a financial instrument for a little happy few.

Everybody wants to see Bitcoin in the real world. but everybody keep just trading on market, instead of forcing the use in daily life.

This project, even very hazardous and with fragile communication is a real economy project producing value in daily life.
This is a good opportunity to help and fund, knowing that loss is potentially possible.

I had multiple communication with the OP in private, and so far so good, i entrust him to run his business and create value.

And if it's a ponzi(which i doubt), im the first to enter, so usually in ponzi scheme frist enter, first paid .

Would be nice from the OP to have a weekly reporting on his business, to keep track of it and show that we are talking about real things here and not candle on a chart.

[iSimantri]

Why do i invest ?

I always though that to make Bitcoin successfull, we have to shift it to real economy.
Since the begining it is just a financial instrument for a little happy few.

Everybody wants to see Bitcoin in the real world. but everybody keep just trading on market, instead of forcing the use in daily life.

This project, even very hazardous and with fragile communication is a real economy project producing value in daily life.
This is a good opportunity to help and fund, knowing that loss is potentially possible.

I had multiple communication with the OP in private, and so far so good, i entrust him to run his business and create value.

And if it's a ponzi(which i doubt), im the first to enter, so usually in ponzi scheme frist enter, first paid .

Would be nice from the OP to have a weekly reporting on his business, to keep track of it and show that we are talking about real things here and not candle on a chart.

Thank you for the opportunity that has been given to me.
I will be regularly updated, how my business situation in real world.