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May 03, 2014, 02:33:33 PM
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Finextra Future Money provokes strong views on fintech innovation

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In a later panel, investor Udayan Goyal made the boldest prediction of the day: that crypto-currencies will kill Swift within three years. To back up his claim, Goyal used the example of Fidor Bank, which now uses Ripple to move money between three countries without even touching Swift.

Inevitably at an event in the heart of London's financial services centre, there was much soul searching at Future Money from banks trying to work out how they can harness the new wave of fintech innovation... continued[/b]

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May 05, 2014, 05:04:04 PM
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Fidor Bank AG und Ripple Labs kooperieren im Bereich des digitalen Zahlungsverkehrs

http://www.stock-world.de/nachrichten/nebenwerte/OTS-Fidor-Bank-AG-Fidor-Bank-AG-und-Ripple-Labs-kooperieren-Bereich-des-n5687486.html


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Fidor Bank AG und Ripple Labs kooperieren im Bereich des digitalen Zahlungsverkehrs München (ots) - Die Fidor Bank AG (www.fidor.de) und Ripple Labs (www.ripplelabs.com) kündigen die Zusammenarbeit im Bereich des digitalen Zahlungsverkehrs an. Die Fidor Bank wird die erste Bank sein, die das sogenannte Ripple Protokoll (www.ripple.com) einsetzen wird. Das Ripple-Zahlungsprotokoll ermöglicht kostengünstige und nahezu Realtime-Zahlungen in allen Währungen - ganz gleich ob gesetzliche oder virtuelle.

In der ersten Ausbaustufe wird den deutschen Endkunden der Fidor Bank eine "Pay Out Möglichkeit" über Ripple angeboten. Dieses Angebot ermöglicht den sekundenschnellen Geldtransfer in andere Länder zu anderen Ripple-Usern. Die Preise hierfür werden sehr wettbewerbsfähig sein. Die technischen Integrationsarbeiten haben bereits begonnen.

Zudem will die Fidor Bank Ripple zukünftig als einen Zahlungsweg zwischen Fidor Bank Länder-Einheiten einsetzen.

"Ripple ändert die Spielregeln für Finanzdienstleister, indem es den Versand und die Abrechnung in Echtzeit in jeder Währung ermöglicht - dies führt zur Stärkung der Kundenbeziehung, insbesondere bei den digital Natives", sagte Chris Larsen, CEO von Ripple Labs. "Als Innovationsführer im digitalen Banking verwendet die Fidor Bank Ripple als eine neue Option, um ihren Kunden eine innovative Möglichkeit des internationalen digitalen Zahlungsverkehrs anzubieten."

Ripple ist ein offenes, dezentrales Zahlungsprotokoll, das es ermöglicht, durch ein globales Protokoll unterschiedliche gesetzliche und virtuelle Währungen, wie z.B. Bitcoins zu versenden. Mit Ripple werden Fidor-Kunden Überweisungen in jeder Währung zu sehr konkurrenzfähigen Preisen bei der Fidor Bank schnell aufgeben und verschicken können. Dabei werden die Fidor-Kunden voraussichtlich keinen separaten Ripple-Account eröffnen müssen.

Sobald mehr Finanzinstitute Ripple einführen, wird zudem die Fidor Bank in der Lage sein, Transaktionen mit solchen Instituten zu günstigeren Gebühren und mit schnelleren Laufzeiten durchzuführen.

Matthias Kröner, CEO der Fidor Bank AG: " Mit Ripple werden wir unseren Kunden in Deutschland einen sehr günstigen und extrem schnellen globalen Geldtransfer anbieten. Wir ermöglichen unseren Kunden die Vorteile eines digitalen Netzwerks auch mit ihrem Bankkonto zu nutzen, um so Ihren digitalen Lebensstil optimal zu unterstützen. Darüber hinaus unterstützt diese Kooperation die internationale Roll-out Vorgehensweise der Fidor Bank AG."
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May 13, 2014, 06:04:39 PM
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Anyone want to send 25xrp to help me get started with ripple?

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August 07, 2014, 12:18:50 PM
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Rainbowcoin is now live on Ripple.com

users can use ggateway.biz to upload their LGBT (note Rainbowcoin code on Ripple is LGB)
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December 30, 2017, 09:22:35 AM
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Hey guys...

I've just been importing my old ripple account into https://wallet.gatehub.net.

I have some XRP, but also some debts (in USD and BTC) because people (who are probably mainly here) extended trust to me and they own IOUs of mine in these currencies.

I saw that some of them have sizable XRP balances in their accounts. Maybe you guys wanna check?

Before I settle those debts, I'd like to make sure people have access to those accounts, so I'll probably search for the account addresses and try to contact the owners...

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December 30, 2017, 09:39:57 AM
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Hey guys...

I've just been importing my old ripple account into https://wallet.gatehub.net.

I have some XRP, but also some debts (in USD and BTC) because people (who are probably mainly here) extended trust to me and they own IOUs of mine in these currencies.

I saw that some of them have sizable XRP balances in their accounts. Maybe you guys wanna check?

Before I settle those debts, I'd like to make sure people have access to those accounts, so I'll probably search for the account addresses and try to contact the owners...

How you contact the owners of those accounts?

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December 30, 2017, 09:45:26 AM
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With Ripple, people can use any currency they choose, and the recipient can receive this payment in any currency they choose. All in a matter of seconds and free. Ripple allows you and I to trade peer-to-peer for anything of value, without a central clearing house or central exchange.
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December 30, 2017, 09:49:38 AM
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Do i have a xrp address if i want to test it? or anyone else can tell me the test result, ripple is really an amazing project, both in the work i has done and the price of its token.

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December 30, 2017, 10:08:13 AM
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With Ripple, people can use any currency they choose, and the recipient can receive this payment in any currency they choose. All in a matter of seconds and free. Ripple allows you and I to trade peer-to-peer for anything of value, without a central clearing house or central exchange.

At first I was intrigued by ripple (in 2013, see OP). It's technically interesting.

Over time I thought about what it was and how it worked: it's essentially a debt-tracker. We'll end up trusting ripple gateways (JP Morgan, the US govt, the ECB, etc...) and we'll end up with "managed money supplies". It's not a trustless system, it's based on IOUs. It's also doubtful wether it's an open system in the sense that anyone can join the network as a node and participate in a meaningful way. And don't even get me started on privacy or censorship-resistance.

Ripple is Central Banking on steroids.

I don't want that. I want p2p cash. Commodity based money.



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December 30, 2017, 10:21:42 AM
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Then you don't use any Bitcoin exchanges, since they also just give you IOUs?

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December 30, 2017, 10:27:50 AM
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Then you don't use any Bitcoin exchanges, since they also just give you IOUs?

You are correct, they also give you IOUs (see mtgox debacle for the risks). But to minimize the risk, you can immediately withdraw the asset to your wallet after trading.

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December 30, 2017, 10:30:31 AM
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I didn't know where to put this so I chose the altcoins subforum because I expect to find the most open-minded people here Wink

I'm intrigued by ripple. There's a lot of info out there and a beta client (web-base javascript).

Here are some links:


There's a built-in exchange. I added bitstamp (supposedly) to my contacts: rvYAfWj5gh67oV6fW32ZzP3Aw4Eubs59B and now I can see an orderbook on the XRP/USD pair. I'd love to try it, but the best ask is 8,333.33333 XRP/USD. I think that's too high.

I only have XRP in my account currently.

I would like to find out wether I can issue some EUR or BTC myself and have people trust me with it. I'm really unclear how that would work. Any info?

So anyone want to post his contact info here so I can add some people to my contacts?

I'm rpH3zuMch2GrrYX724xGWwbMGwiQ5RbSAU

ripple threads should be banned in this forum actually, ripple is not an altcoin, its the banksters breaking rules, and abusing their trust and power

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ripple threads should be banned in this forum actually, ripple is not an altcoin, its the banksters breaking rules, and abusing their trust and power


I tend to agree with the latter part (it's a bankster power grab), but not with the former. We should be able to discuss ripple, even if it's not a coin (which is debatable).

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December 30, 2017, 10:35:51 AM
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I didn't know where to put this so I chose the altcoins subforum because I expect to find the most open-minded people here Wink

I'm intrigued by ripple. There's a lot of info out there and a beta client (web-base javascript).

Here are some links:


There's a built-in exchange. I added bitstamp (supposedly) to my contacts: rvYAfWj5gh67oV6fW32ZzP3Aw4Eubs59B and now I can see an orderbook on the XRP/USD pair. I'd love to try it, but the best ask is 8,333.33333 XRP/USD. I think that's too high.

I only have XRP in my account currently.

I would like to find out wether I can issue some EUR or BTC myself and have people trust me with it. I'm really unclear how that would work. Any info?

So anyone want to post his contact info here so I can add some people to my contacts?

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December 30, 2017, 10:38:23 AM
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Then you don't use any Bitcoin exchanges, since they also just give you IOUs?

You are correct, they also give you IOUs (see mtgox debacle for the risks). But to minimize the risk, you can immediately withdraw the asset to your wallet after trading.
There is no IOU-less interface between Crypto and Fiat currencies though... so instead of creating the IOUs on a server of MtGox, why are you against creating them on a public blockchain? Wouldn't that at least be a step forward in the right direction?

ripple threads should be banned in this forum actually, ripple is not an altcoin, its the banksters breaking rules, and abusing their trust and power

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December 30, 2017, 11:53:05 AM
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Then you don't use any Bitcoin exchanges, since they also just give you IOUs?

You are correct, they also give you IOUs (see mtgox debacle for the risks). But to minimize the risk, you can immediately withdraw the asset to your wallet after trading.
There is no IOU-less interface between Crypto and Fiat currencies though...

well, that's because of the fiat shortcomings. No way to do atomic swaps with EUR.

However, there are decentralized exchanges like bitshares for example.

so instead of creating the IOUs on a server of MtGox, why are you against creating them on a public blockchain? Wouldn't that at least be a step forward in the right direction?

Yeah, maybe a step in the right direction. I have nothing against IOUs in general. Just people should not get lulled in and neglegt the associated 3rd party risk. Even with ripple (it presumably being a public blockchain or not doesn't change this), you still have that risk. It's inherent to IOUs (by design).

It's just that I'd rather hold the larger part of my value in some commodity-based money (or other "tangible" assets (yes, I consider crypto tokens to be "tangible", but that's a philosophical detour)) like BCH or ETH or whatever. That way I "only" have to trust that there will be a liquid market allowing me to pull that value back out when I need it. I do not have to trust some 3rd party (however too big to fail, insured or whatnot it may be) to honor the IOUs I have with them and I do not have to trust that (or another 3rd party) to not inflate the money supply into their own coffers at will, maybe even in an opaque way.

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December 30, 2017, 12:05:54 PM
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Ripple is a decentralized exchange too, the "crypto-Euro" problem will still remain for a while until protocols like Interledger are more widely adopted outside of the blockchain ecosystem.

You prefer to hold native assets rather than IOUs. However you also see the need to trade them from time to time. I get that you are sceptical of the conecpt of Ripple as a monetary system (where people create money from debt or by depositing it at gateways), but I'm not sure why you would be against Ripple as a decentralized exchange that would make it easier for you to choose a single gateway as an on-ramp for the times where you do want to access a liquid market and still gain access to a much wider variety of markets than what the centralized exchanges offer (no need to wait for someone "allowing" you to trade X for Y because they now open an order book on their server).

If Ripple already is Central Banking on steroids, what are centralized exchanges like Binance, Poloniex etc.? In there by the way it is NOT possible to see how much they owe their customers, in Ripple it is transparent.

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Ripple is a decentralized exchange too, the "crypto-Euro" problem will still remain for a while until protocols like Interledger are more widely adopted outside of the blockchain ecosystem.

You prefer to hold native assets rather than IOUs. However you also see the need to trade them from time to time. I get that you are sceptical of the conecpt of Ripple as a monetary system (where people create money from debt or by depositing it at gateways), but I'm not sure why you would be against Ripple as a decentralized exchange that would make it easier for you to choose a single gateway as an on-ramp for the times where you do want to access a liquid market and still gain access to a much wider variety of markets than what the centralized exchanges offer (no need to wait for someone "allowing" you to trade X for Y because they now open an order book on their server).

If Ripple already is Central Banking on steroids, what are centralized exchanges like Binance, Poloniex etc.? In there by the way it is NOT possible to see how much they owe their customers, in Ripple it is transparent.

I acknowledge the use case for ripple as an exchange platform.

Maybe we can view ripple as 2 separate things: an exchange platform / IOU-tracker on the one hand, and a cryptocurrency on the other hand?

Binance, poloniex and other exchanges have the same problem as ripple gateways, imo: they can (at least theoretically) create balances (IOUs) out of thin air. Just look at tether, for example. Or gox running "fractional reserve" for years on end. My fear is that people will get suckered in and just use ripple as a "wallet" for their EUR, USD, BTC...

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December 30, 2017, 08:49:16 PM
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They are moving away from that paradigm for 3-4 years now by the way, the new hot shit that Ripple Inc pushes is https://interledger.org as the upcoming W3C payment standard (Current slide deck: https://www.slideshare.net/Interledger/34c3-interledger-presentation-background-streaming-payments-and-implications). It would allow you to always hold BTC, but to pay someone who only accepts e.g. PayPal at current market prices. That's also the technology that they sell to banks, not the XRP ledger itself (banks don't like to have their payments public apparently).

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In my opinion, XRP is the way for whales and sharks playing the dump and pump games which is really dangerous for normal people like us want to earn some profit in our life.
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