Craig Wright to move coins from an early (associated with the genesis?!) block?

[eternalgloom]

You need to remember that Craig Wright has never claimed he is Satoshi Nakamoto

In the video halfway down this page (captioned "Australian entrepreneur Craig Wright says he is Mr Bitcoin"), at timecount 0:18 the conversation goes like this:

Reporter: "So you're going to show me that Satoshi Nakamoto is you"
Craig Wright: "Yes"

I'd say that sounded pretty much like he's claiming he's Satoshi Nakamoto, wouldn't you ?

He kind of contradicted himself though, he said that he was part of a group of people who were the creators of Bitcoin. Implying that 'Satoshi Nakamoto' is more than one person.

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[NorrisK]

And now this idiot is putting my quote into every single topic as well.

What a tool!

(well - I'm not going to follow around posting into every single CW topic like @TBTB so I'll just let him play his babyish games)

 

You are misinterpreting what Craig says.

He doesnt say say satoshi is dead, he says the persona satoshi is dead, which he supposedly created. Satoshi, his alias, was discarded by him ('dead')

[spartak_t]

Will he accept?

https://twitter.com/LisaNEdwards/status/727820853413482497

[Dabs]

Anyone can make a watch only wallet with 10,000 addresses, load up bitcoin core, and just let it watch all day.

You'll get a notification when any coin in that wallet moves.

I'm pretty sure some people have already done it. If not, it's a simple matter of getting the first 100 or 1000 or 10k addresses from the blockchain or any block explorer.

[kik1977]

Anyone can make a watch only wallet with 10,000 addresses, load up bitcoin core, and just let it watch all day.

You'll get a notification when any coin in that wallet moves.

I'm pretty sure some people have already done it. If not, it's a simple matter of getting the first 100 or 1000 or 10k addresses from the blockchain or any block explorer.

Since it won't make sense to move anything but coins from the very first blocks (or simply the genesis block), you don't need to add more than a few addresses to monitor!

[Slark]

Will he accept?

https://twitter.com/LisaNEdwards/status/727820853413482497

No what? Charlie Sheen as Satoshi Nakamoto (Craig Wright) in new blockbuster movie? Please.
This whole situation with 'real' Satoshi is so damn convenient for Gavin... and I remember it all started with the blocksize debate.

[spartak_t]

Will he accept?

https://twitter.com/LisaNEdwards/status/727820853413482497

No what? Charlie Sheen as Satoshi Nakamoto (Craig Wright) in new blockbuster movie? Please.
This whole situation with 'real' Satoshi is so damn convenient for Gavin... and I remember it all started with the blocksize debate.

Idk, but if Craig Wright proves he is Satoshi, and Hollywood decide to make a movie with Charlie Sheen starring in it, then I believe we FAILers deserve some tip for spreading the idea.

[franky1]

He kind of contradicted himself though, he said that he was part of a group of people who were the creators of Bitcoin. Implying that 'Satoshi Nakamoto' is more than one person.

the satoshi pseudonym is of one person... ONE
but satoshi and other people like Hal finney and a host of other people (all with their own pseudonyms) helped program bitcoin.

even now today there are hundreds of people programming aspects of bitcoin.

but with all that said.

craig wright is not satoshi, nor any other prominent coder of the early days

Idk, but if Craig Wright proves he is Satoshi, and Hollywood decide to make a movie with Charlie Sheen starring in it, then I believe we FAILers deserve some tip for spreading the idea.

i dont think he will prove it.. all he will do is make a phishing site that looks like blockchain.info and try to convince people the transaction on that site is real and all other blockchains and sites which dont display it are wrong or tweaked to hide the transaction in some conspiracy theory to attempt to pretend he is not satoshi.. instead ofcourse the truth... that craig isnt satoshi

[adamstgBit]

He kind of contradicted himself though, he said that he was part of a group of people who were the creators of Bitcoin. Implying that 'Satoshi Nakamoto' is more than one person.

the satoshi pseudonym is of one person... ONE
but satoshi and other people like Hal finney and a host of other people (all with their own pseudonyms) helped program bitcoin.

even now today there are hundreds of people programming aspects of bitcoin.

but with all that said.

craig wright is not satoshi, nor any other prominent coder of the early days

we can define satoshi as the guy that had the idea of POW
this is going to literally be impossible to prove by any means.
so we will never be 100% sure who had the original idea.
the best we can hope for is finding a person with access to the keys which can move coins from early blocks ( preferably the first block )
that would prove they at least played a role in the very beginnings of bitcoin, but still cannot prove that they had the POW idea that makes
all this blockchain thing GO.

[adamstgBit]

i dont think he will prove it.. all he will do is make a phishing site that looks like blockchain.info and try to convince people the transaction on that site is real and all other blockchains and sites which dont display it are wrong or tweaked to hide the transaction in some conspiracy theory to attempt to pretend he is not satoshi.. instead ofcourse the truth... that craig isnt satoshi

that would be funny.

[spartak_t]

Interesting reading, but can this be accepted as part of the truth

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html

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Interesting reading, but can this be accepted as part of the truth

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html

is that real? where did you find that?

[NeuroticFish]

Interesting reading, but can this be accepted as part of the truth

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html

Allright, since this mummer's show doesn't seem to increase the value of Bitcoin, we'll have to wait at least more 4 years for the truth?

[spartak_t]

Another interesting reading:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4htw3t/how_to_steal_54_millions_of_dollar_from_the/

[kik1977]

If the trust document is original (and it has not been changed), it would mean that CW, after the death of David in April 2013, has received back "shares in the tulip trust and company" in July 2015. If that is true, assets attached to the trust can be used and disposed by CW or the clause that says that CW will receive the bitcoins in 2020 is still valid?

Anyone more knowledgeable than me on trusts?

[Snorek]

Another interesting reading:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4htw3t/how_to_steal_54_millions_of_dollar_from_the/

It is quite funny that every piece of evidence points that Craig Wright is not Satoshi even more. With every article I read I believe less and less in Craig=Satoshi.
For know I would rather this this is elaborate ruse, to get away with money, don't pay taxes and be a tool in Gavin's hands.

[kik1977]

And this is another piece on the subject, IMHO very well written.

http://hackingdistributed.com/2016/05/04/logical-fallacies-hunt-satoshi/

[franky1]

Interesting reading, but can this be accepted as part of the truth

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html

Allright, since this mummer's show doesn't seem to increase the value of Bitcoin, we'll have to wait at least more 4 years for the truth?

the tulip trust is empty..
it holds no private keys.. this was already found out before christmas.

the thing abuoot the trust is that craig gave a numpty friend PUBLIC KEYS and told his friend they were his.. the friend then formed a trust using this naive knowledge and valued the trust at the FALSE valuation of the public keys.(without checking the validity of having private keys..)

(remember guys anyone can copy and paste these public keys)

craig then went to the australian government and got $54million by using the trust as collateral.

at first the australian government beleived the trust had value.. so gave him that $54mill... but...
the only issue is that the australian government then looked into it and seen that the trust has no real value as there are no private keys involved and so they want their $54mill back..

this then led to the drama before christmas, and craig had to run off to the UK to avoid arrest.

now he is trying his damned hardest at failing to prove that the tulip trust holds real funds because every attempt he makes has no legitimacy and has so many holes in it, be might as well be handing out swiss cheese.

[buddu]

It is really nice to know the creator of Bitcoin.I am also chasing all the information from here and there just to see if Dr.CW's claim is right or is just bluff.I am confused but let's see how the things fold in coming days.It seems legit way to prove if he can move a block from earlier.

[Erkallys]

I'm waiting him to post a message with Satoshi's account here. That's a si ne qua non things for me to believe that he's Satoshi.