'Brexit' could trigger World War Three, warns David Cameron

[alyssa85]

Well Leave was leading in the polls prior to the sad death of that Member of Parliament.

We shall have to wait to see if this has affected how people feel. Hopefully voters will separate what happened to Jo Cox from the question being asked on the ballot paper.

[Wilikon]

https://www.theguardian.com/money/blog/2016/jun/18/eu-vote-brexit-working-people-rents-wages

[bryant.coleman]

A LEAVE majority in the Brexit referendum can have far reaching implications. For example, the Scots seems to be overwhelmingly in favor of REMAIN, and they may secede from the United Kingdom if the latter cancels its EU membership. The situation in Northern Ireland is also complex, with the Catholics favoring REMAIN and the protestants favoring LEAVE.

[DooMAD]

2 week wait for an appointment..my wife wanted a filling in her tooth..still waiting for them to finish the job 1 month later..i went private and was done in 1 day..i say my wife it's me girlfriend..
Do you live on a council estate? I DO..My life was on the streets i know what happening to the poor
MOST OF MY COUSINS ARE ON THE DOLE..
people loosing there homes faster than anything and migrants moving in FACT..
prisons full of Islam..
go to Leeds loads of unemployed Muslims why bring more in when they could have a job?
2nd gen muslims from the uk why invite more in..
Because if the rich chocker a city..the land owners gain railways gain electric companies gain..
the ones on shit wages will get moved out plus house prices go up and up because someone will always have that little bit more than you..so 20 pounds it goes up..
Then someone will say i will pay 40 pounds more give me the house..
YOU STAY AND YOU WILL PAY..

LAST TIME I MENTION BREXIT BECAUSE I HOPE WE LEAVE..
But if we don't watch what will happen..
I be saving to move to NEW ZEALAND..BUILDER SO ALWAYS GET A JOB..
well i say save i could go tomorrow But daughter doing her education and she top sets in everything she studies..She wants to study law..so i not doing nothing till she well educated?

And no never had a chance at an education mum dad always having murder..
as you can tell by my spelling..but no need to spell if a builder
Sorry i do need to spell when i order a bacon butty

Again, you're conflating issues.  You've been trained to find a scapegoat for all the problems you see in the world.  You're blaming the wrong people for all of these things.  You've been taught to fear and hate the unfamiliar.  I just read a blog post that resonates pretty strongly for me and closely mirrors my views on the matter of immigration: 

We stopped investing in our future and invested in the rich and corporations instead. We disenfranchised entire generations. These generations didn’t go away. They became poorer and more disenfranchised. And angrier and more afraid.
So when good talkers who had been given credibility by TV started telling them again and again that it wasn’t their fault… they listened.
“It’s not your fault” is an incredibly seductive argument. “It’s theirs”. Because there’s always a ‘them’. Always. That’s easy. “You’re not being treated fairly. We have too many people. That’s the problem.” And the argument becomes who has a right to be here.
And this was the point where “these people are scary” became “these people are fucking terrifying.”
That’s the point where we start debating which people have rights and which people don’t. And it’s based on who was here longest. And when you start basing it on that, you start basing it on where you were born. And somehow, we let them say that wasn’t racist.
“It’s not racist to want control over immigration!” “It’s not racist to say they should go elsewhere!” “It’s not racist to want to stop them coming here!” “It’s not racist to say they should be sent back!”
And the message has become more seductive and more powerful. And it’s overtaken logic and it’s based purely on emotion.

Full blog post here.

[bryant.coleman]

The murder of the Labor MP has done the trick folks! Check the latest opinion polls:



Things have turned upside down almost overnight. REMAIN is now in the lead (by 3%), and there was a sharp 8 point swing after the murder of Jo Cox. The assassination of the MP was the best thing ever happened to the REMAIN campaigners in a long while.

[Masha Sha]

What is fun is that right now the European autocrats are playing nice... As soon as the yes or no vote is cast they will unleash a flurry of new ruling to justify their abusive salaries... That they will spend in their private supermarket... It's pathetic.

[Elwar]

The people never vote for more freedom. Only centralization of power over them.

[Masha Sha]

No... There a still little rebellious tendencies in the America... At the end of the 18th century America lived for Liberty. There are still legacies today like decriminalizitation of cannabis in a lot of state! Lgtb rights etc...


However about brexit, it's important to remember that it's REVERSIBLE!!! Brexit is one of the best recent opportunity for the Eurocrats to be forced to restructure! If UK stays... Bruxelles GDP will skyrocket even more (for the same reason as D.C. Area).

[virtualx]

The people never vote for more freedom. Only centralization of power over them.

Those who want freedom are generally minorities.

[Masha Sha]

The people never vote for more freedom. Only centralization of power over them.

Those who want freedom are generally minorities.

The best are generally the few... How many people can play basketball like lebron?

As death is certain, is it better to die a slave or a free man?

[Elwar]

The people never vote for more freedom. Only centralization of power over them.

Those who want freedom are generally minorities.

Yes, the minority is usually the one that wants freedom. The revolutionaries in the US were in the minority when they revolted against Britain. Most people were not all that happy with Britain but were not willing to do anything about it other than grumble.

But that minority tends to be more willing to act while the majority will just go along with whatever is easiest.

[Masha Sha]

The people never vote for more freedom. Only centralization of power over them.

Those who want freedom are generally minorities.

Yes, the minority is usually the one that wants freedom. The revolutionaries in the US were in the minority when they revolted against Britain. Most people were not all that happy with Britain but were not willing to do anything about it other than grumble.

But that minority tends to be more willing to act while the majority will just go along with whatever is easiest.

Don't forget this when you think about the Middle East...

[Elwar]

So where will be the best place to get the vote count for the Brexit? What is the process? If the vote passes I want to be ready to go long on bitcoin

[DooMAD]

The murder of the Labor MP has done the trick folks! Check the latest opinion polls:



Things have turned upside down almost overnight. REMAIN is now in the lead (by 3%), and there was a sharp 8 point swing after the murder of Jo Cox. The assassination of the MP was the best thing ever happened to the REMAIN campaigners in a long while.

And pretty much straight away, some vile, callous little creature standing for UKIP tries to make out like it was some sort of false-flag event to discredit the leave campaign:

Lee Seville, a UKIP Councillor in Rochdale, released this meme on Twitter today which clearly infers he feels Jo Cox was killed as some sort of establishment conspiracy to hurt the Leave campaign

I sincerely hope that's not what you're implying with your post.

[Elwar]

The murder of the Labor MP has done the trick folks! Check the latest opinion polls:



Things have turned upside down almost overnight. REMAIN is now in the lead (by 3%), and there was a sharp 8 point swing after the murder of Jo Cox. The assassination of the MP was the best thing ever happened to the REMAIN campaigners in a long while.

And pretty much straight away, some vile, callous little creature standing for UKIP tries to make out like it was some sort of false-flag event to discredit the leave campaign:

Lee Seville, a UKIP Councillor in Rochdale, released this meme on Twitter today which clearly infers he feels Jo Cox was killed as some sort of establishment conspiracy to hurt the Leave campaign

I sincerely hope that's not what you're implying with your post.

If it would shock you that a government (those in power) would do that, you don't know governments (those in power) very well.

I'm not saying that that is the case this time.

[Masha Sha]

Apparently in Sweden it was a total bloodbath... Lots of people died... But apparently the swedes are too stupid to connect the dots and as they don't have freedom of speech they are doomed...

The advantage of voting stay is that once the vote is done, casted and falsified the EU will go in overdrive imposing all sorts of legislation on the member states and this could lead to full continental scale revolt... And so not only UK could be free from the diktats of the Eurocrats but the whole European people ;-)

[alyssa85]

So where will be the best place to get the vote count for the Brexit? What is the process? If the vote passes I want to be ready to go long on bitcoin

It is being counted council area by council area and the Guardian and the BBC online with be doing live blogs, so you should be able to find out in real time.

Beware of opinion polls just now - Brits tend to be polite, so there will be a number of "shy Leavers" who feel it is a bit uncouth to admit to a pollster that they are voting Leave, but will do so in the privacy of the polling booth. Not to mention that millions had voted by postal vote prior to the murder and all reports were that the postal votes were heavily for Leave.

[Elwar]

So where will be the best place to get the vote count for the Brexit? What is the process? If the vote passes I want to be ready to go long on bitcoin

It is being counted council area by council area and the Guardian and the BBC online with be doing live blogs, so you should be able to find out in real time.

Beware of opinion polls just now - Brits tend to be polite, so there will be a number of "shy Leavers" who feel it is a bit uncouth to admit to a pollster that they are voting Leave, but will do so in the privacy of the polling booth. Not to mention that millions had voted by postal vote prior to the murder and all reports were that the postal votes were heavily for Leave.

Thanks for the info.

[funkenstein]

Let me propose my own Brexit:

1) Stop paying attention to what these fascist losers like David Cameron and other unenlightened self-aggrandizers push in the worlds-worst-press.  Exit completely from voting or caring about what they pretend is important. 

2) Stop accepting as valuable the joke of a scamcoin called the GBP issued ad infinitum by morons with no plan or vision.

3)  (and this is the most shocking of the three)  Take decisions of import to your own life into your own hands.   

[funkenstein]

The people never vote for more freedom. Only centralization of power over them.

Those who want freedom are generally minorities.

Freedom is seen, claimed and used, not "voted for". 

Prisoners don't vote to be free.  They escape.