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May 24, 2016, 04:08:50 PM
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I killed the link ,  but if it really 9.6 th at 1350 watt  and it  is 4.8 btc  it is not worth it.

There's no way for us to know if this is a leak of real information, or if it's just straight up fiction.

Even if the specs are accurate, the price could be way off. All the mining hardware on OB that I've looked at is overpriced.

Either way it would be crazy to buy an unannounced piece of hardware from some anonymous person on OB.

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May 24, 2016, 04:27:01 PM
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I killed the link ,  but if it really 9.6 th at 1350 watt  and it  is 4.8 btc  it is not worth it.

There's no way for us to know if this is a leak of real information, or if it's just straight up fiction.

Even if the specs are accurate, the price could be way off. All the mining hardware on OB that I've looked at is overpriced.

Either way it would be crazy to buy an unannounced piece of hardware from some anonymous person on OB.

I would trust the LinkedIn page more and "BM1386" makes more sense than "BM1396", so at least that part is fiction I think.
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May 26, 2016, 11:00:57 AM
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Have you seen this:

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Description   BITMAIN ANTMINER S9 Batch 1 with 9.63th/s
Shipping from 26th May 2016


S9 Specifications:
1. Hash Rate: 9.63 TH/s ±5%
2. Power Consumption: 1350W + 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp)
3. Power Efficiency: 0.15 J/GH + 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25°C ambient temp)
4. Rated Voltage: 11.60 ~13.00V
5. Chip quantity per unit: 114x BM1396
6. Dimensions: 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H)
7. Cooling: 1x 12038 fan
8. Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 40 °C
9. Network Connection: Ethernet
10. Default Frequency: 800M
Notes:
1.   Power consumption figures will vary with your PSU’s efficiency, the ambient operating temperature and the accuracy of the power meter.
2.   PSU: A power supply unit is not included, and you will need to provide an ATX PSU. There are 3 PCI-e connectors for +12V DC input on each hashing board and all 3 are required. Do not connect more than one PSU to the same hashing board!
Bitmain recommends the APW3-12-1600-B2 power supply for use with the S9. One power supply support one S9.
3. Separate power supply to control board: there is one additional 6pin PCI-e connector on the IO board which must be connected to the PSU to get power. Be sure to power on the miner after ALL the 10 PCIE connectors connected to power supply. When using differnt PSU and you want to power off the miner, be sure to disconnect all the PSU from power.

Just copied S7 later batches description.

1) No way to cool down 1350W with 1 fan securely. Bitmain already reverted back to 2 fan system.
2) S7 design is based on 3 hash boards with 3 stricgs of chips each, so number of chips is always dividable by number 9.
3) It is possible to use 2 strip design, but it needs completely different heatsink configuration to cool down 1350W from less chips. Supply voltage would be 0.55V per chip, which I belive is not possible at 800MHz with BM design. Let us see if yes.

My guess is 135 chips (same design as later batches of S7) and increased chip speed with the same power, so my guess is 40% speed increase which corresponds to about 6.6 to 7THs per S9 and efficiency about 0.16-0.18 +10%.


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May 26, 2016, 02:42:28 PM
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Those who bet Friday as the release date, will know very soon..
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May 26, 2016, 04:16:26 PM
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Those who bet Friday as the release date, will know very soon..

Yes we will Smiley


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May 27, 2016, 12:14:31 AM
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It's now a little after 8 AM Friday in China. No changes on the Bitmain site yet.

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May 27, 2016, 10:41:12 AM
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there won't be anything new today.
enjoy your s7
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May 27, 2016, 12:23:57 PM
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From bitmain's facebook page:

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Hello everyone!
Please note that any online or offline resellers/distributors/shops like this one claiming to sell the Antminer S9 is a scam. The technical specifications or the release date of the Antminer S9 are still not certain yet.
We will inform you all via our official website or social media accounts as soon as we launch it.
Cheers and happy mining,
The Bitmain Team

This relates directly to the offer on OpenBazaar I've posted a few days ago!  Sad

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May 27, 2016, 01:52:31 PM
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there won't be anything new today.
enjoy your s7

Scheisse!

Ok - next Friday then Smiley
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May 27, 2016, 02:41:33 PM
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From bitmain's facebook page:

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Hello everyone!
Please note that any online or offline resellers/distributors/shops like this one claiming to sell the Antminer S9 is a scam. The technical specifications or the release date of the Antminer S9 are still not certain yet.
We will inform you all via our official website or social media accounts as soon as we launch it.
Cheers and happy mining,
The Bitmain Team

This relates directly to the offer on OpenBazaar I've posted a few days ago!  Sad

Bitmain already confirmed that final speed is not yet determined, but S9 is under testing now, so I think they are just binning batches and considering setting price/speed/efficiency. I belive S9 will be within two weeks. Just note that Hashnest lowered S7 price to the same level as public sale price. This might be sign of "stock clearence".
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May 27, 2016, 06:42:01 PM
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So the big thing from Bitmain today is the crap ass 2.7t s7 with the cheap PSU. What a let down.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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May 27, 2016, 08:33:59 PM
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have you checked this mates? https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160525104147645CqK8jJc50678

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May 27, 2016, 08:53:41 PM
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Its been linked before but it gives zero information other than a random hash speed listed. I would take it with a grain of salt until more info comes out.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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May 27, 2016, 08:57:40 PM
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Yes, while a 14TH speed is interesting, without a date, price, or power consumption figure it an utterly useless number. There's nothing that says the 14TH figure won't change before it becomes "real". Whoever started to fill in that web page probably could have had some fun by putting in a 25TH figure and really get a buzz going.....  Smiley
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May 28, 2016, 04:53:00 AM
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Yes, while a 14TH speed is interesting, without a date, price, or power consumption figure it an utterly useless number. There's nothing that says the 14TH figure won't change before it becomes "real". Whoever started to fill in that web page probably could have had some fun by putting in a 25TH figure and really get a buzz going.....  Smiley

Bitmainers aren't known for their sense of humor so if this is a prank it's quite surprising. Gotta love the weight too, 1kg, shipping costs will be awesome  Grin
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May 28, 2016, 07:08:13 AM
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Besides the R1 and "U series (i.e. USB centric)" miners, has Bitmain ever produced a miner that was 1Kg? I agree that seems really light. I'll bet it's just a "place holder" for now.

Of course, maybe the S9 is just a "Cloud Mining" certificate!!!  Smiley Smiley Smiley
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May 28, 2016, 07:40:17 AM
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Besides the R1 and "U series (i.e. USB centric)" miners, has Bitmain ever produced a miner that was 1Kg? I agree that seems really light. I'll bet it's just a "place holder" for now.

Of course, maybe the S9 is just a "Cloud Mining" certificate!!!  Smiley Smiley Smiley

In this case it's casted of solid piece of stainless steel Smiley

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May 28, 2016, 08:50:58 AM
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1) No way to cool down 1350W with 1 fan securely. Bitmain already reverted back to 2 fan system.


 A GOOD fan and a GOOD heatsink setup, it certainly IS possible.
 A dual-fan push-pull design does NOT increase airflow much, unless the flow path is VERY restrictive.

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May 28, 2016, 03:35:00 PM
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Of course, maybe the S9 is just a "Cloud Mining" certificate!!!  Smiley Smiley Smiley

A-la hashlet? Don't start giving them those terrible ideas.... yeez Cheesy

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May 28, 2016, 11:11:56 PM
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According to the Poloniex Trolltalk apparently the S9 is already released but only to the Chinese market.

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