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February 26, 2013, 09:46:23 PM
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When I try to send anonymously through blockchain.info i can't anymore. The button has disappeared. Is it a conspiracy? ;-) It's the same in firefox and chrome and in both of my wallets. Have sent a support ticket, but not received an answer. Is it the same for everyone else?

If they have abandoned the anonymous payments, can someone advice on another trustable service where i can wash my hot bitcoins? ;-)
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February 26, 2013, 11:45:33 PM
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Screenshot taken a few seconds ago. . .

Is this the anonymous sending you are looking for?


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February 26, 2013, 11:59:14 PM
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That's strange ...


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February 27, 2013, 12:04:08 AM
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Are you using Tor, a VPN or any kind of proxy??
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February 27, 2013, 12:06:42 AM
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Anybody know how popular the anonymous option is (or was?)? 1.5% fee seems a bit steep.
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February 27, 2013, 12:09:33 AM
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He is right.  It was there, then I refreshed the page, logged back in, and it was gone.  No more anon option.

Posted the question in the main thread.

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February 27, 2013, 12:10:37 AM
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Are you using Tor, a VPN or any kind of proxy??

No.

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February 27, 2013, 12:15:32 AM
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Has anyone sent a PM to piuk about this?
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February 27, 2013, 02:34:23 AM
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When I try to send anonymously through blockchain.info i can't anymore. The button has disappeared. Is it a conspiracy? ;-) It's the same in firefox and chrome and in both of my wallets. Have sent a support ticket, but not received an answer. Is it the same for everyone else?

If they have abandoned the anonymous payments, can someone advice on another trustable service where i can wash my hot bitcoins? ;-)

Hopefully someone has an answer to at least what is going on, soon.
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February 27, 2013, 02:09:40 PM
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Support question was sent yesterday. Of course I'm behind a VPN. That shouldn't matter, we have the right to protect our anonymity against any site.

I need an alternative. Is bitcoinfog.com reliable alternative? How quick are they to send through payments through their system?
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February 27, 2013, 02:13:13 PM
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Support question was sent yesterday. Of course I'm behind a VPN. That shouldn't matter, we have the right to protect our anonymity against any site.

I need an alternative. Is bitcoinfog.com reliable alternative? How quick are they to send through payments through their system?


Really? How can no one know whats going on here?
Ouch. I had used blockchain.info to send various anon payments as its only 1.5% rather than BitcoinFog's 3%.
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February 27, 2013, 02:21:12 PM
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I know it's an outrage, I hope blockchain.info at least can come out with an explanation soon.. I can't afford to pay 3% either, i use anon payments for everything.. Must be a better alternative somewhere.
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February 27, 2013, 04:14:06 PM
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Support question was sent yesterday. Of course I'm behind a VPN. That shouldn't matter, we have the right to protect our anonymity against any site.

I need an alternative. Is bitcoinfog.com reliable alternative? How quick are they to send through payments through their system?



Yes, you have the right to be anonymous while visiting any site. Any site also has the right to only make services available to anonymous users if they want to. If they don't want to provide anonymous transactions to anonymous persons, that's their call.

BTW: I hope that's not what's happening here. But it wouldn't surprise me a bit if they didn't want to provide that service to accounts which access them trough anonymizing software, or using IP's on some blacklist.
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February 27, 2013, 04:47:11 PM
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Support question was sent yesterday. Of course I'm behind a VPN. That shouldn't matter, we have the right to protect our anonymity against any site.

I need an alternative. Is bitcoinfog.com reliable alternative? How quick are they to send through payments through their system?



Yes, you have the right to be anonymous while visiting any site. Any site also has the right to only make services available to anonymous users if they want to. If they don't want to provide anonymous transactions to anonymous persons, that's their call.

BTW: I hope that's not what's happening here. But it wouldn't surprise me a bit if they didn't want to provide that service to accounts which access them trough anonymizing software, or using IP's on some blacklist.
Why? What does blockchain.info have to gain to deny us the privilege to send money anonymously? Who has an interest in stopping anonymous payments? Only governments and banking cartels. I thought blockchain.info were on our side.. Still silent from blockchain.info support. A change like this need to be commented upon.
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February 27, 2013, 04:55:08 PM
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I have requested an official explanation from blockchain.info support referring to this thread.. Let's see what they say.
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February 27, 2013, 06:04:09 PM
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Piuk seems to be inactive since Feb 25.
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February 27, 2013, 06:23:51 PM
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Support question was sent yesterday. Of course I'm behind a VPN. That shouldn't matter, we have the right to protect our anonymity against any site.

I need an alternative. Is bitcoinfog.com reliable alternative? How quick are they to send through payments through their system?



Yes, you have the right to be anonymous while visiting any site. Any site also has the right to only make services available to anonymous users if they want to. If they don't want to provide anonymous transactions to anonymous persons, that's their call.

BTW: I hope that's not what's happening here. But it wouldn't surprise me a bit if they didn't want to provide that service to accounts which access them trough anonymizing software, or using IP's on some blacklist.
Why? What does blockchain.info have to gain to deny us the privilege to send money anonymously? Who has an interest in stopping anonymous payments? Only governments and banking cartels. I thought blockchain.info were on our side.. Still silent from blockchain.info support. A change like this need to be commented upon.

They might have to gain not having to close up shop, for example.
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February 27, 2013, 06:36:08 PM
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The funny thing is, it was back in the middle of the night - I logged in to get a new address for a payment, and had the option again.  Now this morning, it is gone again.

WTF Blockchain?

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February 27, 2013, 07:00:09 PM
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Wow even the direct link is going to a blank page, not even a 404, but straight blank.

https://blockchain.info/wallet/send-anonymously


If blockchain really has removed their anon feature then they've really let us down T_T
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February 28, 2013, 03:45:04 AM
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Does anybody have an update?
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February 28, 2013, 08:05:43 AM
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Still have anonymous payments.
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February 28, 2013, 01:12:36 PM
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Still have anonymous payments.
Log out from your wallet and log in again.  When I did that the option was gone.  You are just running an old version of the code.

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February 28, 2013, 01:18:38 PM
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it's def gone
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February 28, 2013, 01:20:35 PM
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I don't see the option right now either. He was discussing dropping the price in a recent thread, perhaps he is re-working the feature somehow. Or, perhaps he has taken heat from someone about it and has shut it down to protect the rest of his business.

I'm a big fan of privacy, and of the option for people to remain anonymous while using Bitcoin, but it is self-evident that people were using Blockchain's anonymous feature to filter stolen coins, coins used for extremely nefarious purposes, as well as coins used for only slightly nefarious purposes (buying weed from the Silk Road, for example). It wouldn't surprise me if he was pressured from somewhere or someone to stop or change the way he offers this feature.
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March 01, 2013, 01:58:45 AM
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Still cant believe it has been a couple days now and there is not a single word about it from Blockchain - their FAQs still have the section up that says you can Send and Receive Anonymously...

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March 01, 2013, 02:40:08 AM
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Still cant believe it has been a couple days now and there is not a single word about it from Blockchain - their FAQs still have the section up that says you can Send and Receive Anonymously...



FYI piuk indicated earlier today that he would be making an announcement about this soon:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40264.msg1567949#msg1567949
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March 01, 2013, 09:03:44 PM
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I've still got both the anon options in my wallet using the Chrome extension.  Not checked from the HTTPS version tho?

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March 08, 2013, 08:58:34 AM
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It's baaaaaaaaaack!

https://blockchain.info/wallet/send-shared

Looks like they redesigned the mixing algorithm?

Fee appears to have lowered as well (now only 0.5%).

All is well in the universe once more.
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March 08, 2013, 03:54:30 PM
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Was there ever a post with an explaining the issue?

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March 08, 2013, 04:23:33 PM
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Was there ever a post with an explaining the issue?

No.
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March 08, 2013, 04:28:41 PM
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I am glad it was fixed. however, the way it was executed was not good. I hope next time a big change is introduced there is some explanation before it happens, otherwise people will become worried about using the service.
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March 08, 2013, 04:47:36 PM
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I was happy for a couple of minutes, now comes the next HUGE problem...

I'm not able to send anything out of my wallet. When I try quick send I get a nasty red message saying "Error getting unspent outputs"...

When I try the new "send shared" function I get another red message saying "null"... Anyone else getting this now?
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March 08, 2013, 04:50:22 PM
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When I try to login to my other wallet I get this red message: "Got error 157 'Unknown error code' from NDBCLUSTER"

I have backups in form of private keys, but this is NOT good...
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March 08, 2013, 04:54:01 PM
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I get the same error on both of my wallets.. I hope they're online and working stuff out.. I'll just chill out for a while i guess..
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March 08, 2013, 05:00:07 PM
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Same error here.
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March 08, 2013, 05:18:02 PM
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Explanation is up now at least..
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March 08, 2013, 05:27:21 PM
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Explanation is up now at least..


What, the moving servers page? That's an old page from 6 months or more ago when he switched servers.
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March 08, 2013, 05:31:35 PM
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log in and try "send shared".

way sweeter and more affordable at 0.5%.
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March 09, 2013, 02:34:26 PM
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Explanation is up now at least..


What, the moving servers page? That's an old page from 6 months or more ago when he switched servers.
Oh, he didn't switch servers then?

Anyhow, blockchain is up and running again, the bitcoins are still there and it's possible to send money again, i'm happy.

But why the lack of communication? Maybe he didn't switch server, but used that image as a way to find some time to work out the problems that showed up..

We need communcation ahead of time every time there's a major change to the site if we are gonna be able to trust it 100%.
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March 09, 2013, 02:48:57 PM
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We need communcation ahead of time every time there's a major change to the site if we are gonna be able to trust it 100%.

Trust it 100%? With Bitcoin involved in the business? Don't get your hopes very high.
And I'm not talking about the operator running away with your coin, in case that's what you're thinking.
One piece of regulation can kill any bitcoin business from one day to the other and there's nothing you can do about it.
Just keep your private keys safe with you, ok? Don't make yourself dependent on anyone or any service.
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March 09, 2013, 03:07:20 PM
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Looking at it right now i dont see a send anonymously option. Does anyone have a link for some sort of announcement by blockchain?

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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March 09, 2013, 04:09:48 PM
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Looking at it right now i dont see a send anonymously option. Does anyone have a link for some sort of announcement by blockchain?
Log out of your wallet, log back in (reloads the wallet code), and you will see it.

Our family was terrorized by Homeland Security.  Read all about it here:  http://www.jmwagner.com/ and http://www.burtw.com/  Any donations to help us recover from the $300,000 in legal fees and forced donations to the Federal Asset Forfeiture slush fund are greatly appreciated!
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March 10, 2013, 01:24:48 AM
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Looking at it right now i dont see a send anonymously option. Does anyone have a link for some sort of announcement by blockchain?
Log out of your wallet, log back in (reloads the wallet code), and you will see it.

ah tx

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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