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I don't really understand why some people keep trying to blame the development team for their seed issues.  When you first signed up for the ICO it SPECIFICALLY said "DO NOT LOSE THIS SEED".  It was unequivocal, and the fact that other ICO's did it differently does not mean the developers did not adequately warn you.  When I read that I assumed it meant that I should NOT LOSE IT.  I put it in a spreadsheet and saved it on the cloud, why you wouldn't save that information I don't know.  The development team has bent over backwards to try and help people recover their seeds.  I totally understand that it would completely suck if you no longer have it and you made an investment.  But its absurd to blame the development team because they put that warning at the very beginning.

It is your fault. Period.  Stop trying to blame others for your mistake.


you know what force majeure is?
the term if you lose.means its your fault.
and its not very clear in the first place, since we had access to the ico portal, there is this assumption that somewhat you can withdraw from it, since thats your first log in

you only think of yourself thats why.


Yes, I know what force majeure.  I am an attorney, I am well versed in contract law, and this would certainly not rise to that level, unless maybe your computer got struck by lightning.

It WAS that clear.  I remember the warning, because it was almost the same warning that appears on myetherwallet, and it is exactly the reason I went to such lengths to save it.

This is not about me not caring about people getting their Wings, I honestly hope everyone does.  Its just that its ridiculous that people keep blaming the developers for it.


and just to provide a sample Force Majeure clause:

Force Majeure. "If either party hereto is prevented in the performance of any act required hereunder by reason of act of God, fire, flood, or other natural disaster, malicious injury, strikes, lock-outs, or other labour troubles, riots, insurrection, war or other reason of like nature not the fault of the party in performing under this Agreement, then performance of such act shall be excused for the period of the delay and the period of the performance of any such act shall be extended for a period equivalent to the period of such delay except that if any delay exceeds six months, then the party entitled to such performance shall have the option to terminate this Agreement."

That would certainly not apply in an instance where you decided not to save an important key.  (Even if they didn't warn you)


so atty, whats your verdict?

kindly explain atty?
they did not provide the address right away at ico stage.
what is for you the first log in means?


7.10                    Creation of “WINGS Token”

In order to participate in the "WINGS Donation Campaign", you will need to create (register) a "WINGS Account" using your e-mail address and a password. For your security, when you login or register to the "WINGS Donation Campaign" you must do it from your private computer using a private network, from a private physical location. WINGS stores and uses your email and password to provide a view only mode of your donations and referrals, to link your email to your public key ("WINGS Address") created from your mnemonic private key (see clause 7.10.1). WINGS stores your "WINGS Address" in the "WINGS Donation Database". Your "WINGS Address" is the public address where your "WINGS Tokens" will be allocated by the smart contract.
7.10.1    Account Seed
During your first login you will be required to generate a mnemonic private key (the "Seed"). A "Seed" is a 12 words unique phrase and the only way you can access your "WINGS Address" and therefore your "WINGS Tokens". By participating in the "WINGS Donation Campaign", you understand and agree that you are responsible for safeguarding the "Seed" and that:
·         You must write down the "Seed" on piece of paper and safeguard the paper at all times beyond at least 2 separate physical locking devices, e.g. a fire & water resistant safe and a door.
·         You must never share the "Seed" with anyone.
·         You understand that if someone gets the "Seed", by any means, they gain full access to your "WINGS Tokens".
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April 27, 2017, 11:10:46 PM
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no correct seed no wings token. Short and simple. Obviously this guy above is fuming that keep on copy-paste to justify his actions.
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April 27, 2017, 11:18:32 PM
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no correct seed no wings token. Short and simple. Obviously this guy above is fuming that keep on copy-paste to justify his actions.

so whats your problem about it? nothing wrong with the posts why would the mod delete it whats the intent?

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April 27, 2017, 11:25:23 PM
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Man, the individual does not really get it. The skull is made up of titanium without content. Simple wings token redemption: NO CORRECT SEED , NO WINGS TOKEN.
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April 27, 2017, 11:35:08 PM
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Man, the individual does not really get it. The skull is made up of titanium without content. Simple wings token redemption: NO CORRECT SEED , NO WINGS TOKEN.

It's just the simple human anger of not being able to access something you paid for...
It's acceptable and I'm sure you have been in the same situation at one point in your life.
Or you must be one of those perfect persons.

What you can do is to stop replying so harshly.
Your being a dick and it isn't necessary.

A solution to the seed problem will most likely happen in the following months.

I'm looking at an account worth 3,900$ and I have no seed.
Yeah, it sucks... but I'll survive.

But you don't have to keep being a ass. Not everyone with a seed issue is retarded, shit happens.
Good luck, I hope you find some happiness in your angry life.

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April 27, 2017, 11:37:38 PM
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Man, the individual does not really get it. The skull is made up of titanium without content. Simple wings token redemption: NO CORRECT SEED , NO WINGS TOKEN.

There were a quality products also. Simple wings dont a take lot of time.

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April 27, 2017, 11:38:41 PM
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Man, the individual does not really get it. The skull is made up of titanium without content. Simple wings token redemption: NO CORRECT SEED , NO WINGS TOKEN.

It's just the simple human anger of not being able to access something you paid for...
It's acceptable and I'm sure you have been in the same situation at one point in your life.
Or you must be one of those perfect persons.

What you can do is to stop replying so harshly.
Your being a dick and it isn't necessary.

A solution to the seed problem will most likely happen in the following months.

I'm looking at an account worth 3,900$ and I have no seed.
Yeah, it sucks... but I'll survive.

But you don't have to keep being a ass. Not everyone with a seed issue is retarded, shit happens.
Good luck, I hope you find some happiness in your angry life.

atleast i find a human with a soul here. others they are clones.
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April 27, 2017, 11:44:15 PM
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NO CORRECT SEED , NO WINGS TOKEN.  Get over with it and move on.
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April 27, 2017, 11:45:39 PM
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Man, the individual does not really get it. The skull is made up of titanium without content. Simple wings token redemption: NO CORRECT SEED , NO WINGS TOKEN.

It's just the simple human anger of not being able to access something you paid for...
It's acceptable and I'm sure you have been in the same situation at one point in your life.
Or you must be one of those perfect persons.

What you can do is to stop replying so harshly.
Your being a dick and it isn't necessary.

A solution to the seed problem will most likely happen in the following months.

I'm looking at an account worth 3,900$ and I have no seed.
Yeah, it sucks... but I'll survive.

But you don't have to keep being a ass. Not everyone with a seed issue is retarded, shit happens.
Good luck, I hope you find some happiness in your angry life.

atleast i find a human with a soul here. others they are clones.

Honestly, I was pissed at first. But yes it was my fault for thinking I would be able to link my personal eth wallet at some point, and not really caring about the seed.

I contacted support.
They said they are working on a solution and trying to work something out with the legal team for account resets or something of the nature.
This will take some time.
Possibly months? Who knows.

In the meantime.... try to find your seed, or guess. That's basically all you can do besides be patient, or write it off.

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April 27, 2017, 11:57:27 PM
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Human touch I commended you for that. Blockchain technology has been around for around 4 to 6 years now and one of its characteristics is IMMUTABILITY . Once a transaction has been done no way it will be change or altered. For the last 3 years, I believe enthusiasts have been dealing with seed mnemonics . I myself encountered lost seed when I was in NXT, and from that on I have kept my seeds from CP, ethereum and NEM to name a few. NXT taught me a lesson and that was so important. I have move on since.
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April 28, 2017, 12:01:40 AM
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Man, the individual does not really get it. The skull is made up of titanium without content. Simple wings token redemption: NO CORRECT SEED , NO WINGS TOKEN.

It's just the simple human anger of not being able to access something you paid for...
It's acceptable and I'm sure you have been in the same situation at one point in your life.
Or you must be one of those perfect persons.

What you can do is to stop replying so harshly.
Your being a dick and it isn't necessary.

A solution to the seed problem will most likely happen in the following months.

I'm looking at an account worth 3,900$ and I have no seed.
Yeah, it sucks... but I'll survive.

But you don't have to keep being a ass. Not everyone with a seed issue is retarded, shit happens.
Good luck, I hope you find some happiness in your angry life.

atleast i find a human with a soul here. others they are clones.

Honestly, I was pissed at first. But yes it was my fault for thinking I would be able to link my personal eth wallet at some point, and not really caring about the seed.

I contacted support.
They said they are working on a solution and trying to work something out with the legal team for account resets or something of the nature.
This will take some time.
Possibly months? Who knows.

In the meantime.... try to find your seed, or guess. That's basically all you can do besides be patient, or write it off.

yes i can write it off, no problem with that, the thing is i believe there was errors also on the part of the devs, its unusual the way they distributed the tokens, also how do we know that the address they give us after 6months was the same address generated by the seed given at ico?.

anyways, evrything happens for a reason.
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April 28, 2017, 12:14:35 AM
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Man, the individual does not really get it. The skull is made up of titanium without content. Simple wings token redemption: NO CORRECT SEED , NO WINGS TOKEN.

It's just the simple human anger of not being able to access something you paid for...
It's acceptable and I'm sure you have been in the same situation at one point in your life.
Or you must be one of those perfect persons.

What you can do is to stop replying so harshly.
Your being a dick and it isn't necessary.

A solution to the seed problem will most likely happen in the following months.

I'm looking at an account worth 3,900$ and I have no seed.
Yeah, it sucks... but I'll survive.

But you don't have to keep being a ass. Not everyone with a seed issue is retarded, shit happens.
Good luck, I hope you find some happiness in your angry life.

atleast i find a human with a soul here. others they are clones.

Honestly, I was pissed at first. But yes it was my fault for thinking I would be able to link my personal eth wallet at some point, and not really caring about the seed.

I contacted support.
They said they are working on a solution and trying to work something out with the legal team for account resets or something of the nature.
This will take some time.
Possibly months? Who knows.

In the meantime.... try to find your seed, or guess. That's basically all you can do besides be patient, or write it off.

yes i can write it off, no problem with that, the thing is i believe there was errors also on the part of the devs, its unusual the way they distributed the tokens, also how do we know that the address they give us after 6months was the same address generated by the seed given at ico?.

anyways, evrything happens for a reason.

is it maybe since initially they plan it to be at rsk flatform and later change to eutheruem. and at early stage of ico seeds generated was at rsk flatform? is that a possibility? why it did not match the other seeds now?
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April 28, 2017, 12:15:35 AM
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I don't really understand why some people keep trying to blame the development team for their seed issues.  When you first signed up for the ICO it SPECIFICALLY said "DO NOT LOSE THIS SEED".  It was unequivocal, and the fact that other ICO's did it differently does not mean the developers did not adequately warn you.  When I read that I assumed it meant that I should NOT LOSE IT.  I put it in a spreadsheet and saved it on the cloud, why you wouldn't save that information I don't know.  The development team has bent over backwards to try and help people recover their seeds.  I totally understand that it would completely suck if you no longer have it and you made an investment.  But its absurd to blame the development team because they put that warning at the very beginning.  

It is your fault. Period.  Stop trying to blame others for your mistake.

you know what force majeure is?
the term if you lose.means its your fault.
and its not very clear in the first place, since we had access to the ico portal, there is this assumption that somewhat you can withdraw from it, since thats your first log in

you only think of yourself thats why.

Yes, I know what force majeure.  I am an attorney, I am well versed in contract law, and this would certainly not rise to that level, unless maybe your computer got struck by lightning.  

It WAS that clear.  I remember the warning, because it was almost the same warning that appears on myetherwallet, and it is exactly the reason I went to such lengths to save it.  

This is not about me not caring about people getting their Wings, I honestly hope everyone does.  Its just that its ridiculous that people keep blaming the developers for it.  

and just to provide a sample Force Majeure clause:

Force Majeure. "If either party hereto is prevented in the performance of any act required hereunder by reason of act of God, fire, flood, or other natural disaster, malicious injury, strikes, lock-outs, or other labour troubles, riots, insurrection, war or other reason of like nature not the fault of the party in performing under this Agreement, then performance of such act shall be excused for the period of the delay and the period of the performance of any such act shall be extended for a period equivalent to the period of such delay except that if any delay exceeds six months, then the party entitled to such performance shall have the option to terminate this Agreement."

That would certainly not apply in an instance where you decided not to save an important key.  (Even if they didn't warn you)

so atty, whats your verdict?

Look, I truly hope that there is a solution or work around and there is a way to recover everyone's seed and all of the tokens they invested in so they can make a return and participate in the project.  I definitely have sympathy, and I would be upset if I couldn't access mine either.  Its just the attack on developers that I find without basis.  I am not judging people that did not save their seed, and I want them all to reach out to developers to try and recover what they can, but don't try to say it is the developers fault!

Also, when people start talking about legal concepts like Force Majeure, or contract law, or expectation (though it is really reliance that matters in contract law, less so expectations), I just laugh because they have no clue what they are talking about and while justifiably angry, that does nothing to solve their problem.

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April 28, 2017, 12:22:34 AM
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Hi all,
I don't understand the "How to add WINGS in MEW as a custom token" (see the step by step guide at: https://blog.wings.ai/using-myetherwallet-with-wings-7b2db0424fd9).

You have to enter your Mnemonic Phrase at step 2.

Even if you succesfully go through all steps. How can you later log in to your account at MEW?

I dont see any steps where you can enter a username and password. Or do we have to use the mnemonic phrase every time you want to enter your account at MEW?



Personally I added the token in my regular wallet also, then I sent them to my existing wallet.  I ran into the same issue as you.  There may be a way to use the method they provided and still use it in a more normal manner, but using my existing account was just easier.

I havent done anything yet, just read the step by step guide. I am unfamiliar with MEW. So thats why i am asking upfront, so that i do not run into issues.

I don't understand what you are saying. You added wings to your 'regular' wallet and then sent them to your 'existing' wallet. This does not make any sense to me. What regular wallet? what existing wallet?

 

Sorry, I was not clear.  I followed the same steps for creating a custom token on the myetherwallet account I normally use for ethereum generally and then sent the Wings tokens from the wallet I was assigned by the developers to the one I normally use.
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Hi all,
I don't understand the "How to add WINGS in MEW as a custom token" (see the step by step guide at: https://blog.wings.ai/using-myetherwallet-with-wings-7b2db0424fd9).

You have to enter your Mnemonic Phrase at step 2.

Even if you succesfully go through all steps. How can you later log in to your account at MEW?

I dont see any steps where you can enter a username and password. Or do we have to use the mnemonic phrase every time you want to enter your account at MEW?



Personally I added the token in my regular wallet also, then I sent them to my existing wallet.  I ran into the same issue as you.  There may be a way to use the method they provided and still use it in a more normal manner, but using my existing account was just easier.

I havent done anything yet, just read the step by step guide. I am unfamiliar with MEW. So thats why i am asking upfront, so that i do not run into issues.

I don't understand what you are saying. You added wings to your 'regular' wallet and then sent them to your 'existing' wallet. This does not make any sense to me. What regular wallet? what existing wallet?

 

Sorry, I was not clear.  I followed the same steps for creating a custom token on the myetherwallet account I normally use for ethereum generally and then sent the Wings tokens from the wallet I was assigned by the developers to the one I normally use.
Maybe a little I can help you, what is your question? Whether you have not understood to send your wings into the exchange address..
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April 28, 2017, 12:40:57 AM
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Great decision for me to invest at Wings few months ago. Now I am more confident and will continue to hold 90% of my Wings in long term and see how far it can go. Time to look for another good ICO this time. I felt relief after this long wait.

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Great decision for me to invest at Wings few months ago. Now I am more confident and will continue to hold 90% of my Wings in long term and see how far it can go. Time to look for another good ICO this time. I felt relief after this long wait.
Yes it is time we hold the expert because it is too long wait and finally now there is in the market, I think you are not too hasty to sell it because I predict this wings will rise up to 15k..
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April 28, 2017, 01:04:02 AM
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NO CORRECT SEED , NO WINGS TOKEN.  Get over with it and move on.

The procedure is complex and not known by everyone, people need to join a simpler ICO, not this one. So be careful when we invest next time.
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April 28, 2017, 02:36:35 AM
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Man, the individual does not really get it. The skull is made up of titanium without content. Simple wings token redemption: NO CORRECT SEED , NO WINGS TOKEN.

It's just the simple human anger of not being able to access something you paid for...
It's acceptable and I'm sure you have been in the same situation at one point in your life.
Or you must be one of those perfect persons.

What you can do is to stop replying so harshly.
Your being a dick and it isn't necessary.

A solution to the seed problem will most likely happen in the following months.

I'm looking at an account worth 3,900$ and I have no seed.
Yeah, it sucks... but I'll survive.

But you don't have to keep being a ass. Not everyone with a seed issue is retarded, shit happens.
Good luck, I hope you find some happiness in your angry life.

atleast i find a human with a soul here. others they are clones.

Honestly, I was pissed at first. But yes it was my fault for thinking I would be able to link my personal eth wallet at some point, and not really caring about the seed.

I contacted support.
They said they are working on a solution and trying to work something out with the legal team for account resets or something of the nature.
This will take some time.
Possibly months? Who knows.

In the meantime.... try to find your seed, or guess. That's basically all you can do besides be patient, or write it off.

It will sucks if i can not get my seed, i joined this ico and if i cant get it so it means i throw my money to trash. I'm waiting for solution
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April 28, 2017, 02:37:59 AM
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Im sorry for those people that was not able to get their tokens due to seed issues, but I guess for the others who bought it on the market after ICO means there there are less circulation/supply. Moon much?
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