BITMAIN!! Make a 200-400 Watt miner!!

[spazzdla]

DO IT

DOOOOOOOOOOO IT.

[jekecoin]

DO IT

DOOOOOOOOOOO IT.

Then I can get one.

[spazzdla]

DO IT

DOOOOOOOOOOO IT.

Then I can get one.

Same!! IT's not the price it's the fact I don't want to use 1200 Watts in my appt. 2-600 watts okay.

[sidehack]

Avalon! Make a 200-400W miner! BitFury, support the development of 200-400W miners! Help wrestle some of the market away from Bitmain!

[scyth3]

Why?

There are better ways to throw away your money.

[sidehack]

Some people like to spend money on fast cars or craft beers or shoes or any number of things many consider useless. Some people want to spend money on home-scale mining gear many consider useless.

I think of it like buying wrenches instead of taking a car to a mechanic. Some people like being more self-sufficient.

[VirosaGITS]

Some people like to spend money on fast cars or craft beers or shoes or any number of things many consider useless. Some people want to spend money on home-scale mining gear many consider useless.

I think of it like buying wrenches instead of taking a car to a mechanic. Some people like being more self-sufficient.

To "BITMAIN!! Make a 200-400 Watt miner!!" i say;

SIDEHACK!! Make a 200-400 Watt miner!!

I know its more or less up to you, however.

[mindrust]

Why?

There are better ways to throw away your money.

Exactly. Don't bother with mining if you don't have free electricity at all. It just doesn't make sense at the moment and also it doesn't worth the trouble. Find a way to get free electricity only after then start mining.

[toptek]

Some people like to spend money on fast cars or craft beers or shoes or any number of things many consider useless. Some people want to spend money on home-scale mining gear many consider useless.

I think of it like buying wrenches instead of taking a car to a mechanic. Some people like being more self-sufficient.

why can't more see it this way it has nothing to do with RoI but does which if we had these kind of miners  everyone would have and kept the differently down and slowly increased it and bitmain Polly would have  made more, they shut out a whole different group of buyer with the S7 to me said fuck you pretty much and (were just starting to see who really cares),they all ready had the market. so when  I say : not every one worries about ROI and they come back with BS excuses, i don't say anything because no mater what i say there right ... and  2 post below yours proves that thought .


cya

[spazzdla]

Why?

There are better ways to throw away your money.

Exactly. Don't bother with mining if you don't have free electricity at all. It just doesn't make sense at the moment and also it doesn't worth the trouble. Find a way to get free electricity only after then start mining.

spazzdla will burn his money how he sees fit.

[toptek]

Why?

There are better ways to throw away your money.

Exactly. Don't bother with mining if you don't have free electricity at all. It just doesn't make sense at the moment and also it doesn't worth the trouble. Find a way to get free electricity only after then start mining.

spazzdla will burn his money how he sees fit.

yup fuck them it's not there life or money .

[adaseb]

You guys can just buy 1 GPU and mine ETH. It will use 200 watts.

[sidehack]

Who says we want to mine anything other than bitcoin? Some people don't support altcoins.

[IconFirm]

I'd rather see bitmain improve their firmware by using mainline cgminer instead of their terrible forked version....

[toptek]

Who says we want to mine anything other than bitcoin? Some people don't support altcoins.

Or you could easily be like me and many others you want a bit on all spectrums. I am running 4 of your sticks during the summer (an S5*, avalon* and an s3*
(*in the winter for heat)), 2 moonlanders, and 5 gpu's running Eth, 5 750ti, 3 960 for feathercoin. I do this all in an apartment, so I spread the power and the hashes to many algo's as I can. It is for fun most of it.

I do it all to but would love to see some more of bit main stuff priced for home use and not be told by others suck up it, deal with it or how ever you want to put it or what way  .

Same, most of it is for fun but that doesn't mean I/we can't have update to stuff either . That extra champ change or what ever anyone wants to call it i might get, does come in handy from time to time.  

[fanatic26]

Large companies do not cater to the small fry. They could care less about the guy wanting to run a few tiny units in his apartment. If they spent all that money and R&D time to make a small miner....sure they might sell 1000 or so to the fools that dont care about losing money....but as a company they wont even recoup their costs on building it. So they build a larger miner and sell them by the thousands to mining farms and actually make money. Yet everyone wonders why they dont make smaller miners anymore when the answer seems pretty obvious. I mean all these companies used to make small miners...if they thought there was a market that could support them they would not have stopped.

[sidehack]

The problem isn't that there isn't a market. The problem is that it's a harder market. Shipping a hundred machines on a pallet to one technically-competent person is a lot easier than shipping out a hundred machines to a hundred idiots who then need support. So they're willing to take a slight hit (in Bitmain's case, it's what, 1% off the purchase price?) to sell to a few giants who won't ask a lot of questions rather than sell to a thousand idiots with a dozen questions each if you get the same amount of money from either group. Bitmain wants to maximise profits, and if you can get the same revenue while unloading 90% of your support staff salary your profits just went up.

If I knew that I was guaranteed to sell 1000 units, it'd be worth my time to R&D and manufacture a small miner. It's not that the dev and manufacturing costs aren't enough to recoup it. The logistics of mass shipping and customer support (which Bitmain has sucked at for years now, think how much worse it'd be with twice as many customers) is what makes it annoying. Actually, what I want to build I can pretty much guarantee will sell at least 1000 units; the only thing stopping me is access to chips.

[philipma1957]

Okay  right now the marketcap is

  bitcoin at  6.87 bill
 ethcoin at  1.97 bill

https://coinmarketcap.com/


This is a direct result of  asic builder sucking their own cocks so to speak.   Feels good  and you think you don't need anyone or anything else in the world.   Eventually you close the loop and die off.

Bitmaintech
Avalon
Bitfury
B&W

Could be in a world of shit very soon.   Just track the marketcap.

Do you want to mine bitcoins? 

 Rent an ethminer from me  I can pay 2x  what you get from renting an s-7 from nicehash.

the in balance has been caused by  Asic miners  just pleasuring them selves from self mining and restricting asic chips to the rest of the world.


See this thread   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1477094.msg14904329#msg14904329

moved from bitcoin to alt coin. Just because people do not see the hand and hand relationship  alt coins and btc have.

Oh well.


To be transparent  I have

210-220 mh  mining Eth coin    power used =  1900watts    monthly earnings 805 usd  power cost is 255 net = 550

27th             mining  Btc coin   power used =  7000watts     monthly earning  925 usd power cost is 0    net = 462

my deal is  free power and split coins on the 27th.



I have some compac sticks mining at bravo-mining,
I have some eth coins,
I have some btc coins,
I have some cash,
I have some btc loaned to people,

So shift the cap on btc to 5 bill  and on  eth to 3 bill   and the aisc builders are in bad shape.

Me thinks we could be seeing a fundamental shift away from BTC to ETH. 

Mostly caused by asic builders  fucking the pooch.

But I have been wrong before so time will tell.

[philipma1957]

The new amd gpu's are going to be fun, just like the 200 series. I remember paying 300 for a 280

Yeah   I will keep mining eth for now along side BTC. But If I did not have my good power deals  for the btc gear It would be almost all eth coin.

In fact I am trying to get two really reliable eth miners setup to mine at my friends shop in Brooklyn Navy Yard.  I have one built will build the other soon.


So bitmaintech  this is what is happening to people that would prefer mining with your gear. 

We are mining with pc/gpu's  and bypassing you.  Since mining eth coin and exchanging some for BTC is cheaper then what you offer.

[xxcsu]

Want a 200-400W miner ?
Get a S7 from ebay or amazon ... remove 2 hashing boards from left and right side , leave the one in the middle ... get a 750-800W 80 PLUS Certified power supply if you want to run just one hashing board ... keep the 2 hashing board as a spare or sell it on ebay as a parts for S7 .. set the fan to 45% or less , but watch the board temp and adjust the fan speed as need it , try to keep the temp around 60-65 ... and you good to go you have a 400-450W miner with 1.5TH/s hashing power . If you want less power usage you can always under clock your miner
You can get a used S7 under 600$ , im sure the price is going down in the future as we are closer to the halving event in July ... You can sale each hashing board around 150$ right now.. so from 300$ you have a 400W miner + have to spend some money on a PSU ...