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May 31, 2016, 02:38:24 PM
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I sent some PMs and emails last night to some coin makers.  OP updated with Microsoul and TGBEX.

Pricing is planned to be $10 per autograph, sold only as a complete set.  Total edition will be 50 sets made, but all coin makers participating will be given a set out of the 50. Total amount released to buyers will be TBD once I know how many coin makers are participating. 

Each set will include a signed and numbered Certificate of Authenticity with the same holo added that was used for the Signature Editions.  The labels used are archival acid-free quality with a foil sticker back.

Pre-orders and serial number reservations are not being taken until the signatures are complete, in possibly a month from now.



10$ per autograph sounds fine! But how many Coin makers/Coin types are there exactly in the book - given everyone signs...

Also, you can remove that i need book since i bought it Smiley

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I think there are around 60 makers in the book. I'm hoping for around 15 to participate. 

if all 60 participate- this is gonna be Costly Cheesy




I'm only doing 50 sets total.  If I had 50 makers, all the sets would be given away, so I wont be asking everyone. 

Plus there's several less known makers that people may not have heard of.

If it's 15 people only - that's great! Smiley
Though 150$ is pretty high for it - can you reduce it ?
I would like one for sure if it's like 120$ for 15 Smiley I can pay advance

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May 31, 2016, 02:56:35 PM
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I think there are around 60 makers in the book. I'm hoping for around 15 to participate.  
So $150 to get 15 labels? I could almost buy another book! Cheesy It seems a bit too much.

I respect your opinion.  This is an add-on to make your book more personalized. 

Since I'm gifting many of the sets away as a thank you to the people signing, I wont have as many left to recoup out of pocket costs.  This will be a limited serialized edition that can be used in the current or any possible future books that elianite and I produce. 

Autographs for many very obscure celebrities often are $10-$20 at conventions to sign something of yours, which they aren't factoring in the medium to sign on, shipping back & forth internationally (hopefully no customs), packaging, and time.    The pricing for these isn't cheap, but its within the normal range for autographs, especially for a limited serialized set.

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May 31, 2016, 03:00:21 PM
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If it's 15 people only - that's great! Smiley
Though 150$ is pretty high for it - can you reduce it ?
I would like one for sure if it's like 120$ for 15 Smiley I can pay advance

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I'll know more of the exact number of people probably in a couple days.  I'll commit to pricing then. 

I dont want to take any pre-orders now until these are on-hand, in probably a month from now.

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May 31, 2016, 03:05:07 PM
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If it's 15 people only - that's great! Smiley
Though 150$ is pretty high for it - can you reduce it ?
I would like one for sure if it's like 120$ for 15 Smiley I can pay advance

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I'll know more of the exact number of people probably in a couple days.  I'll commit to pricing then. 

I dont want to take any pre-orders now until these are on-hand, in probably a month from now.

I understand!

I  will buy one for sure Smiley
So keep me in list at TOP please  Grin
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May 31, 2016, 05:16:33 PM
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At that price point I would want to make sure these were authentic signatures, not signed by friends/family etc.   Smiley

If it was $2-3 a signature I probably wouldn't care, but since we're comparing to a legitimate "in-person" convention signing - how is authenticity to be verified?

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May 31, 2016, 08:10:05 PM
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At that price point I would want to make sure these were authentic signatures, not signed by friends/family etc.   Smiley

If it was $2-3 a signature I probably wouldn't care, but since we're comparing to a legitimate "in-person" convention signing - how is authenticity to be verified?

Thats a good question.  Many well-known celebrities today will have a secretary / other person sign for them in the mail.  Its something I would be more concerned with if writing to some people.  I'm not as concerned with our coin makers, as I do trust them.

Perhaps I can ask the makers to reply in a PM / thread to vouch for their signatures?  Its common also for people to have a one-time picture showing them signing an autograph, though it doesn't ensure that the photo shows the exact moment that person's own label was done.   I wish to respect people's privacy, so I don't know if I want to go that route.

I'm also open to ideas.

The Certificate of Authenticity (COA) gives a written guarantee that these will be authentic, or I will refund your money, provided the labels are still intact, so they can still be returned.   It would require some proof that a signature wasn't real, such as the maker's word, as opposed to someone just returning the item due to changing their mind.  For top celebrities, their signature can be verified and sent to an independent agency such as UACC, but its unlikely they can verify someone from our community.

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May 31, 2016, 08:13:57 PM
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I'll be happy to post a photo of all my signed labels, if you'd like.

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May 31, 2016, 08:17:16 PM
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3 more coin makers wrote me in the last couple hours.  Thank you to...

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May 31, 2016, 09:23:44 PM
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Honestly, i dont think anyone of us has secretarys for their operation so you can probably guarantee 99% would be authentic.  Otherwise a maker can just refuse if they didnt want to.  And to add to that if its only 50, that doesnt take too much time. 
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May 31, 2016, 09:28:43 PM
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Honestly, i dont think anyone of us has secretarys for their operation so you can probably guarantee 99% would be authentic.  Otherwise a maker can just refuse if they didnt want to.  And to add to that if its only 50, that doesnt take too much time. 

Good point.  Often times big celebrities get deluged with tons of requests and they didn't agree to sign whatever came in their mail.  In this case, I'm only going to send the package to those who agreed ahead of time.  Many of the makers are one man operations, and I can't picture them wanting to have someone else sign for them.  I'm also giving them a gift as well to compensate for their time and effort.

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May 31, 2016, 09:30:03 PM
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I'm not sure if you all would want my sig since my coin is not released yet (and consequently not in the book).

Either way, if I am happy to sign some labels if anyone wants it. Smiley it won't be my personal sig though.














 

 

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May 31, 2016, 10:44:35 PM
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I'm not sure if you all would want my sig since my coin is not released yet (and consequently not in the book).

Either way, if I am happy to sign some labels if anyone wants it. Smiley it won't be my personal sig though.

Any chance you could sign a blank cheque rather than a label ?  Wink
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May 31, 2016, 10:49:58 PM
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I'm not sure if you all would want my sig since my coin is not released yet (and consequently not in the book).

Either way, if I am happy to sign some labels if anyone wants it. Smiley it won't be my personal sig though.

I figured since you are producing a coin, I switched you to that section.  I'll PM you so we can figure out what makes sense.

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I'm in, on behalf of Titan Mint.

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June 01, 2016, 01:39:10 PM
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Three more great names added today:

TitanBTC
Kialara
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Thank you all, and thank you also to any coin makers I didnt publicly mention earlier.  I was at a convention in orlando at the time of the OP and didn't have a lot of time to write in the middle of the floor.

Right now I have 15 makers, with a few more I'm actively trying to get.  Say tuned for the final list.

Labels have been ordered, and should get to me in a few days.  I'll be contacting the makers for their mailing addresses to send their labels, and later their free sets.  Past or new purchase of a book isn't necessary for any free sets I give out, but its certainly a nice thing to use with the signatures.

At this point, I will likely be allocating 15-20 free sets to the makers, 20 to elianite, keep 2 for myself, a few for minerjones for packaging with new book sales, with around 5-10 loose sets available for sale.  

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June 01, 2016, 02:36:51 PM
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I'm not sure if you all would want my sig since my coin is not released yet (and consequently not in the book).

Either way, if I am happy to sign some labels if anyone wants it. Smiley it won't be my personal sig though.

I've decided to opt out. I won't be signing, since I think it only makes sense to have the featured creators' signatures  Smiley If another book comes around, I would be happy to then sign some labels  Wink














 

 

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June 01, 2016, 02:40:27 PM
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At this point, I will likely be allocating 15-20 free sets to the makers, 20 to elianite, keep 2 for myself, a few for minerjones for packaging with new book sales, with around 5-10 loose sets available for sale.  

What on earth would elianite do with 20 labels?

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June 01, 2016, 02:52:57 PM
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At this point, I will likely be allocating 15-20 free sets to the makers, 20 to elianite, keep 2 for myself, a few for minerjones for packaging with new book sales, with around 5-10 loose sets available for sale.  

What on earth would elianite do with 20 labels?

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sell me one Cheesy
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June 01, 2016, 05:54:59 PM
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At that price point I would want to make sure these were authentic signatures, not signed by friends/family etc.   Smiley

If it was $2-3 a signature I probably wouldn't care, but since we're comparing to a legitimate "in-person" convention signing - how is authenticity to be verified?

Thats a good question.  Many well-known celebrities today will have a secretary / other person sign for them in the mail.  Its something I would be more concerned with if writing to some people.  I'm not as concerned with our coin makers, as I do trust them.

Perhaps I can ask the makers to reply in a PM / thread to vouch for their signatures?  Its common also for people to have a one-time picture showing them signing an autograph, though it doesn't ensure that the photo shows the exact moment that person's own label was done.   I wish to respect people's privacy, so I don't know if I want to go that route.

I'm also open to ideas.

The Certificate of Authenticity (COA) gives a written guarantee that these will be authentic, or I will refund your money, provided the labels are still intact, so they can still be returned.   It would require some proof that a signature wasn't real, such as the maker's word, as opposed to someone just returning the item due to changing their mind.  For top celebrities, their signature can be verified and sent to an independent agency such as UACC, but its unlikely they can verify someone from our community.

Thanks for the update, I believe the COA would cover it.

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June 01, 2016, 10:14:04 PM
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Good news!  CryptoImperator has been added today.

I also have a very special update from BitcoinPenny.  He would be happy to draw one of his world-famous hand-made doodle sketches on a larger 2" x 4" label in addition to his signature on the normal label.   I won't ask anything extra for this, but wanted to provide a little something special for anybody getting a set.  You could add this to a front inside blank page.

BitcoinPenny has made some very nice sketches for his customers.  See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1213499.0

Any takers??

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