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June 03, 2016, 07:19:43 AM
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It's all good in Islam, IMO. I don't think it's Haram, as it's a currency. But make sure that you don't gamble or earn interest through different HYIP's/Ponzis, and God knows much better.

Now, you should CLOSE this thread. It can get much worse and off-topic.
what i sayed before, if you going to speculate , buying low and selling high , it is gambling en you know how Islam thinks about gambling.
only mining not Haram cause it is work

Of course, that's totally sort of forex trading, and it's not allowed in Islam. Forgot to add that, pretty bad of me.

Warning again, this thread could get much worse if not closed.
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June 03, 2016, 07:20:39 AM
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What is RIBA?

Muslim bitcoiners are great when you guys get involved in the lending business, interest free loans!   Smiley
you just said it, loan with interest is also riba

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June 03, 2016, 07:23:38 AM
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What is RIBA?

Muslim bitcoiners are great when you guys get involved in the lending business, interest free loans!   Smiley
you just said it, loan with interest is also riba

but in todays date, muslims are don't care about riba, about haram and halal, they do anything for money.. I know lots of muslims who play gambling and giving taking loan, even this is allowed in every muslims country and their banks as well, muslims are don't care about these things,..
but seeing lots of muslims in bitcoin industry is very good,

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June 03, 2016, 07:24:14 AM
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Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

Thanks Grin Grin Grin

"Aleyküm selam ve rahmetullahi ve berekatuhu"

I'm a Muslim too and i choose carefully what i want to, what do i advertise, how I'm earning the money etc.
First of all i would suggest you to stay away from betting, gambling, loans (with interest) because these are prohibited.
Trading bitcoin is allowed as it is allowed to trade cash in real life (this is how i understand it), exchanging bitcoins etc.
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June 03, 2016, 07:43:46 AM
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So you allowed to trade with Bitcoin, but you not allowed to earn interest from the currency you use? Interresting So what happens with volatility, if the price goes up? Is this not seen as interest? Do your religion prohibit interest from commodities too or only from commodities where illegal goods are concerned?

Sound very complex and restrictive to me. ^hmmmmm^

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June 03, 2016, 11:36:21 AM
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Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

Thanks Grin Grin Grin
in my opinion, well there are a lot of things that you can do to earn bitcoin beside gambling or join HYIP and ponzi site ,  you can try to service section and develop your skill in there , or you can try trading ,

if me honestly i'm gambling too  Grin

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June 03, 2016, 11:56:35 AM
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Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

Thanks Grin Grin Grin
Wallaikumsalam
I m also Muslim, and i m surprise too see that you are from Indonesia.
Are Indonesian Muslims? and you know very well about Islam.
My Answer is every currency is halal, the way how you can earn it, it will be count . I mean if you earn it in a illegal way that is not good for us. otherwise you are doing work in the right way and than you earn (any currency) like bitcoin. so it is halal for us.
Just like i m doing a work in Bitcointalk and i m earning so it is a good way for me.
Otherwise God better know than me.
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June 03, 2016, 12:07:01 PM
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Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

Thanks Grin Grin Grin
Wallaikumsalam
I m also Muslim, and i m surprise too see that you are from Indonesia.
Are Indonesian Muslims? and you know very well about Islam.
My Answer is every currency is halal, the way how you can earn it, it will be count . I mean if you earn it in a illegal way that is not good for us. otherwise you are doing work in the right way and than you earn (any currency) like bitcoin. so it is halal for us.
Just like i m doing a work in Bitcointalk and i m earning so it is a good way for me.
Otherwise God better know than me.

LOL , Indonesia is THE largest Moslim country in the World Smiley
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June 03, 2016, 01:05:08 PM
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I always get nervous trading with names like Muhammad for fear of it being terrorist shit... not to be racist or anything.

Seems to me you've been heavily influenced by media.

Really. Stop listening to the media. Especially when they try to tell you it has "nothing to do with Islam" everytime someone Allahu Ackbars and kills a bunch of cartoonists.

BUT TAKE NOTE:

Bitcoin does not discriminate,
Bitcoin is for everyone

There is no place for religion/racism or PC in bitcoin.

This is the best point in the thread. Bitcoin is for everyone. It only cares if your signatures check out and you paid the fee. You could be a Muslim, a different kind of Muslim, or belong to one of the many non-Islamic faiths that Islam has spent centuries trying to exterminate.

For example, I am a follower of Manāt, the pre-Arabian Goddess of Fate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man%C4%81t

Bitcoin is very popular among followers of Manāt. I pray to Manāt daily for the bitcoin price to rise and for victory over the current and historic enemies of Manāt. Many racists out their say bad things about Manāt and her followers, because they are racist and ignorant. Enlightened and educated people know that followers of Manāt are ultimately peaceful people, who love Bitcoin, and that her enemies will ultimately be destroyed as completely as crypto will destroy fiat.

Peace be upon Manāt, peace be upon all of her sisters, and peace be upon all of you.

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June 03, 2016, 02:51:21 PM
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Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

Thanks Grin Grin Grin
wa'alaikumsalam. as far as I know it's not Riba, but don't do gambling, HYIP, PONZI or bet. it's not halal. I think you know why.

I see some threads in Indonesian section, if I'm not mistaken, talking about "Is bitcoin halal or not".

A few months ago I got news that MUI stated that bitcoin is haram because of 6 things, but 2 of them are wrong. So keep reading books about " fiqih jual-beli". So you will get answer.

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June 03, 2016, 03:04:44 PM
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Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

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Waalaikumsalam..
welcome to the forum and on bitcoin world,yes that's was some ways to earn bitcoin with unsafe and harmfull way and against Islam rules,its why i'm not invest on hyip,ponzi or gambling,just earn bitcoin from good ways,you will find some,like signature campaign,cloud mining,or faucet.
How about earning bitcoin from gambling site like you are just doing now with your signature? Is it allowed by your religion?

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June 03, 2016, 03:29:25 PM
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may i spam here too? it's great to get some activity with topics like this.  Tongue
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June 03, 2016, 03:38:34 PM
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I always get nervous trading with names like Muhammad for fear of it being terrorist shit... not to be racist or anything.

Seems to me you've been heavily influenced by media.

Really. Stop listening to the media. Especially when they try to tell you it has "nothing to do with Islam" everytime someone Allahu Ackbars and kills a bunch of cartoonists.

It's not the Muhammad that makes me nervous... it's "my" people that make me most nervous.  I don't want to get smoked by a drone.

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June 03, 2016, 05:07:57 PM
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I always get nervous trading with names like Muhammad for fear of it being terrorist shit... not to be racist or anything.

Seems to me you've been heavily influenced by media.

Really. Stop listening to the media. Especially when they try to tell you it has "nothing to do with Islam" everytime someone Allahu Ackbars and kills a bunch of cartoonists.

It's not the Muhammad that makes me nervous... it's "my" people that make me most nervous.  I don't want to get smoked by a drone.

I agree. American drones are killing people all the time. It's really terrible. On the other hand, you're very unlikely to be killed by a Mohammedan. Unless you joke about Mohammed. Or draw Mohammed. Or be an Atheist. Or be a Hindu. Or worship Manāt. Or be a Jew. Or be the wrong kind of Muslim. Or be a Muslim who leaves Islam.

Or be near a Muslim on the wrong day.

As long as you don't make any of those kind of racist, ignorant mistakes, you have nothing to worry about from the Mohammedans. They're famously peaceful, and have been since the beginning.

I'm glad to have a chance to clear up all these misconceptions about Islam. Just submit. All will be well. Submit. Submit. Submit.

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June 03, 2016, 05:18:43 PM
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Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

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Both Islamic finance and Bitcoin contribute to the ongoing development of unconventional financial methodologies, both are in contrast to the so-called Western financial system. In a way, it wouldn't be unfair to conclude that they have a mutual opponent. If Bitcoin is to really become the future of money, as its proponents suggest, it would certainly be interesting to watch its evolution from an Islamic point of view.
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June 03, 2016, 05:33:21 PM
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For that reason, I previously suggested to create a section especially for Muslims. I am actually against mixing Bitcoin with any religious things but you can not prevent it. So you need to find a way to deal with it.
Satoshi would probably not like this.

I always get nervous trading with names like Muhammad for fear of it being terrorist shit... not to be racist or anything.

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June 03, 2016, 08:31:45 PM
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Oh please don't get religion involved in Bitcoin. Can the mods please remove this discussion?


Why? What are you afraid of?
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June 04, 2016, 12:20:18 AM
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For that reason, I previously suggested to create a section especially for Muslims. I am actually against mixing Bitcoin with any religious things but you can not prevent it. So you need to find a way to deal with it.
Satoshi would probably not like this.

I always get nervous trading with names like Muhammad for fear of it being terrorist shit... not to be racist or anything.

I still do business as normal with them of course.  BTC are BTC.  Your religion is fine as long as it doesn't fuck with me!

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June 04, 2016, 05:29:37 AM
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Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

Thanks Grin Grin Grin
the better you perform signature camp or trading are clear rules and I think it is not against the rules of our religion. or you can follow the giveaway and various contests in this forum to get some BTC.
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June 04, 2016, 06:25:36 AM
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it is not good to talk this here
You must show your reasons if it will become a problem and on this forum there are not ban for moslem to use this forum or using bitcoin.
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