Muslim Bitcoiner

[jerowacik]

there are a lot of understanding about bitcoin for a Muslim. but I took the middle road. bitcoin help us in our daily lives. and when it is beneficial then that is something we can do.

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[kaltun]

there are a lot of understanding about bitcoin for a Muslim. but I took the middle road. bitcoin help us in our daily lives. and when it is beneficial then that is something we can do.

Its very simple, the way you get bitcoin and using for is crucial, if you gained via wrong way then is it haram ( like all other currency) otherwise its Halal.
it has nothing to do with how technical or how new the currency is, the WAY you gained is very important.

[Snorek]

Looks like many muslim here and i think they are not the best in bitcoin.. and most of them are they are working and always making a ponzi sites.. just heard to other forums..

I disagree.
It has nothing to do with religion.
People will always find ways to make easy money.
Many admin HYIP sites are from Russia, Brazil, Nigeria, China.

Can we stop from baseless accusations? Last time I checked there wasn't any info about 'top best countries to run Ponzi scheme from'.
It is your pure speculation, community blindly assume that people from generally poorer countries are more willing scam others - it is not always true.

[daarul50]

as a Muslim who knows the word halal and haram. I recommend to get bitcoin on the path that is not fraudulent. you can try the faucet, signature campaign and trading. it is one way to avoid gambling. gambling games that are for a Muslim is unlawful.

True, many ways to get bitcoin apart from gambling. lest we wrapped up with a way to get bitcoin. and how it plunges us into violation of religious law.

[BitsandBites]

Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

Thanks

Waalaikumsalam,,,
From my view bitcoin is not usury, because the principle bitcoin is such as currency. And bitcoin trading was not illegitimate I think because it is the principle of buying and selling and Islam allow the buying and selling. But of course if you use bitcoin for gambling is strictly prohibited by Islam. thank you

alhamdulillah, anta muslim aydhoon 

Yes, in the islamic article said that tradig its fine. By the way,  in addition to trading, do you use bitcoin for anything else?

i think there are allot of muslim bitcoin users and not because they cant use it because of there religion but that is not true. There are allot of muslims that cant use the  coin in their country because no one accept it.

[ImHash]

1300 years ago son in law of prophet of islam said that there will be time when people use and trade invisible money, then in that time
There will be wars which ultimatly results the end of the humanity as we know it.

Something that almost every one fails to understand is that islam is not about the prophet and his family and his people but is the last
And end of prophecy, and no more messanger sent from God ever since, meaning we are getting close to the end as days goes by.
Islam says there is only one true God who was never borned and has no children and no partner. only true God who created everything
And any thing there will ever be. He just says 'exist' and what ever was that thing would come to existant from nothing and no where.

Just don't do things to others that you don't like to be done to you, the whole idea of islam.

[Daimaru]

1300 years ago son in law of prophet of islam said that there will be time when people use and trade invisible money, then in that time
There will be wars which ultimatly results the end of the humanity as we know it.

Something that almost every one fails to understand is that islam is not about the prophet and his family and his people but is the last
And end of prophecy, and no more messanger sent from God ever since, meaning we are getting close to the end as days goes by.
Islam says there is only one true God who was never borned and has no children and no partner. only true God who created everything
And any thing there will ever be. He just says 'exist' and what ever was that thing would come to existant from nothing and no where.

Just don't do things to others that you don't like to be done to you, the whole idea of islam.

any valid source ? hadist ?

[sbtctalk]

I hope no one will start threads such as

"Christian Bitcoiner"
"Jew Bitcoiner"
"Buddhist Bitcoiner"
"Scientology Bitcoiner"
"Hindu Bitcoiner"
"Catholic Bitcoiner"

[justspare]

Why is it so special that Muslims use Bitcoin? Pretty much every other race also uses it but now that Muslims use it, there is a huge commotion about it?

[breakers11]

Main Rules :
-GAMBLING IS HARAM
-HYIP IS HARAM
-INTEREST IS HARAM

agree with you,halal / haram depends on what we use bitcoin

You are saying true. I am also agree. These are not Halal in Islam but I think mining and trading is halal. Am I true ! Correction is appreciated.
Interest and gambling is totally Haram but HYIP, I don't know about it.

[MTBTT]

Main Rules :
-GAMBLING IS HARAM
-HYIP IS HARAM
-INTEREST IS HARAM

agree with you,halal / haram depends on what we use bitcoin

yeah it depends on people using bitcoin itself. basically bitcoin unsafe and unclean. if they are using bitcoin in the wrong way it would have been against the rules

[daarul50]

Why is it so special that Muslims use Bitcoin? Pretty much every other race also uses it but now that Muslims use it, there is a huge commotion about it?

The main problem is the legality, Muslims discussing the legality of bitcoin. because if bitcoin is not officially recognized by the government agencies bitcoin including unlawful. but if we see the development even today bitcoin can be converted to real currency. This is all included haram? 

[xuan87]

Main Rules :
-GAMBLING IS HARAM
-HYIP IS HARAM
-INTEREST IS HARAM

agree with you,halal / haram depends on what we use bitcoin

yeah it depends on people using bitcoin itself. basically bitcoin unsafe and unclean. if they are using bitcoin in the wrong way it would have been against the rules

I think I agree, bitcoin can be used to help people, but it also can be used for bad things, same thing with money
but i dont dare to say whether bitcoin is haram or halal because I myself dont know the answer

[mki8]

can we please move this thread somewhere else

religion has no place here.

[genos]

Hai if youre muslim you must try to join of signature campaign that do not have a contact with islam rule or some thing that collide with.maybe you can try to trading BITCOIN to.

[drwtsn32]

I needed to search what Riba means: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riba

Based on what I understand (please correct me if I'm wrong), gambling is not unjust. Because in a gambling game, both parties agreed on their wagers. But scams/ponzis/hyips in the bitcoin world is surely Riba.

[genos]

Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

Thanks

Waalaikumsalam,,,
From my view bitcoin is not usury, because the principle bitcoin is such as currency. And bitcoin trading was not illegitimate I think because it is the principle of buying and selling and Islam allow the buying and selling. But of course if you use bitcoin for gambling is strictly prohibited by Islam. thank you

alhamdulillah, anta muslim aydhoon 

Yes, in the islamic article said that tradig its fine. By the way,  in addition to trading, do you use bitcoin for anything else?

i think there are allot of muslim bitcoin users and not because they cant use it because of there religion but that is not true. There are allot of muslims that cant use the  coin in their country because no one accept it.

Muslims are need to choose investment way thats not collide with islam rule. There some signature campaign that no contact with riba or something that haram in islam. Also muslim can trading bitcoin,trading is halal right?  

[genos]

Guys, do not fall and affected with this RawDog. He is just luring us. Keep the deiscussion continues.

Yes, Bitcoin is free and not related to any religion. Its a currency and the good and bad thning about the currency depends upon its usuage and not on the currency Itself. If Used legally, then there is no harm is using Bitcoins.

Yes sir I absolutely agree with you there are some way in use bitcoin that do not collide with islam rule, an example is trading, trading is not haram, so muslims are still can use bitcoin.

[xhomerx10]

I needed to search what Riba means: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riba

Based on what I understand (please correct me if I'm wrong), gambling is not unjust. Because in a gambling game, both parties agreed on their wagers. But scams/ponzis/hyips in the bitcoin world is surely Riba.

 Riba is interest charged on a loan.  It literally means "excess"
Scams, Ponzis and hyips are either Maysir or Gharar both of which are forbidden under the Shariah.  I'm not a Muslim but I know gambling is expressly forbidden.  You might as well dye your hands in pig's blood as gamble.

Based on the definitions, I would think even mining of bitcoin would fall under Maysir unless you are considering it a hobby.  If it is done for investment, it is probably forbidden.


Ramadan Mubarak.

[Jeremycoin]

I just have one thing to tell you, stay away from gambling!
And because you seem new here, welcome to Bitcointalk