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March 20, 2013, 01:34:55 AM
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Hi Phinnaeus,

I have indeed been mullin' all along Cool
But the only reason I didnt answer earlier was that I was too busy making appointments for the coming weeks.
I just now returned with my team from Vienna and 2 interviews (one of which with Trace Mayer).
Long story short: Yes, I definitly would love to receive your donations! The 1000$ one would get us to Finland or Britain for example and much closer to San José in May!
We will try our best to convince NGOs to accept Bitcoin when we encounter them during our project, but please understand that its not the main purpose of this project and we would still keep our focus on getting the most interesting people to tell their Bitcoin stories, not picking them for being heads of some NGOs that may be interested in Bitcoin (unless they have something interesting to say beyond that).
Would you have any suggestions for organizations that match Bitcoin100's apiration and could also be on the Docu?

From the top of my head, I can think of all the local hackspaces that we will visit. Would they qualify for Bitcoin100?
2nd idea (just hit me over the head): What about organizations that may accept Bitcoin, but when we interview them first they are more likely to decline, so we show their statements as a little side story and as the plot progresses, they are shown again with footage from our second visit by which they have already accepted Bitcoin and talk about how cool it is;) ?
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March 20, 2013, 07:47:25 AM
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Hi Phinnaeus,

I have indeed been mullin' all along Cool
But the only reason I didnt answer earlier was that I was too busy making appointments for the coming weeks.
I just now returned with my team from Vienna and 2 interviews (one of which with Trace Mayer).
Long story short: Yes, I definitly would love to receive your donations! The 1000$ one would get us to Finland or Britain for example and much closer to San José in May!
We will try our best to convince NGOs to accept Bitcoin when we encounter them during our project, but please understand that its not the main purpose of this project and we would still keep our focus on getting the most interesting people to tell their Bitcoin stories, not picking them for being heads of some NGOs that may be interested in Bitcoin (unless they have something interesting to say beyond that).
Would you have any suggestions for organizations that match Bitcoin100's apiration and could also be on the Docu?

From the top of my head, I can think of all the local hackspaces that we will visit. Would they qualify for Bitcoin100?
2nd idea (just hit me over the head): What about organizations that may accept Bitcoin, but when we interview them first they are more likely to decline, so we show their statements as a little side story and as the plot progresses, they are shown again with footage from our second visit by which they have already accepted Bitcoin and talk about how cool it is;) ?

Fair enough! (and feel free to call me Bruno if you desire) Given the above, I'm going to take the liberty to fine-tune the original proposal, with hopefully at the end of the day not take much, if any, moneys--as first outlined--off the table, and maybe even securing more funds along the way.

With that, you're pretty much assured the $1,000 USD from Bitcoin 100 to further along this endeavor.

What I believe is paramount is that the ten NPO/NGOs we obtain receive as much prominent billing as possible, i.e., credits in the documentary (hopefully not in fast scroll mode), and links on your website, chiefly come to mind. Shouldn't need more than that. Please don't concern yourself with billing Bitcoin 100 unless we deserve credit(s).

Therefore, the adjusted proposal (outlined shortly) is predicated on a commitment from you in regard to the above--prominently showcasing ten new non-profits (not any previously obtained prior to this tentative agreement).

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Would you have any suggestions for organizations that match Bitcoin100's apiration and could also be on the Docu?

Possibly. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64504.0 kenija2012 was one of the first NPOs we funded, and I'm sure those doctors may have live footage, taken while in Kenya.

http://kenijaodprava.blogspot.si/2012/10/18/povzetek/



Another example will come to mind later, or perhaps a new entity will manifest itself, rising up for the occasion. Of course, the better the human interest storyline, the better the final cut would be.

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From the top of my head, I can think of all the local hackspaces that we will visit. Would they qualify for Bitcoin100?

Probably not. Not because of who or what they are, but because of their reach, with most functioning at the local level. An umbrella organization of said group would suffice, provided they are not already accepting bitcoins as a donation option.

They do seem like a fine group of folks, where a member or two may be closely connected to some charitable organization which may qualify though. But we won't know unless they're asked. Hint! Hint!

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2nd idea (just hit me over the head): What about organizations that may accept Bitcoin, but when we interview them first they are more likely to decline, so we show their statements as a little side story and as the plot progresses, they are shown again with footage from our second visit by which they have already accepted Bitcoin and talk about how cool it is;) ?

Or at the very least, they reluctantly accept the offer (filmed), with a follow up video prior to the footage hitting the edit floor.

Once one of these ten accept, we'll do our best to work with them as they start requesting donations via Bitcoin. This will be more true if one particular entity is pose to be filmed more so than some other(s). Once we're made aware of such a fact, it'll be easier to shoot more coins their way, thus making the outcome more favorable, albeit a tad contrived.

Now that I've address your response, allow me to outline the next step(s) below the fold.

The New Proposal

Don't worry, for the changes are not too draconian. In fact, some may prove better, outweighing any negativity.

The first major change is that I will take lead control of the fund raising drive as it relates to Bitcoin 100's efforts in the amassing of the majority of the funding for the documentary. I'll be starting a separate thread for the occasion. In fact, there'll be two threads, for it'll be a two-step process. You'll understand why in a bit (almost penned sec).

Another major change will be in the time frame to accomplish this task. Originally, I penned a 60-90 day max window, with your team footing the majority of the labor. Seeing from your post, and should of considered it myself earlier, you'll probably be too pressed for time to take on added burdens.

The new time frame will be only 30 days to accomplish said task, provided the wafers leave the FAB as scheduled.  Grin (couldn't resist injecting humor) This quickening should come as a blessing for a myriad of reasons.

In essence, I'll be setting up a 30 day donation drive/challenge starting on the first day of April (probably sooner), ending on the 30th (locked deadline). This is what thread two (mentioned above) will consist of. Thread one (started immediately) will consist of garnering support from various viable entities, willing to donate $500(?) each at the end of April if Bitcoin 100 pulls through. (getting tired, but hope the gist came through--elaboration will be provided in said thread, and touch upon further below)

Quick aside: Upon a second/third read of the quoted post, I wanted to let you know that in no way are we (am I) trying to dictate to you how, or what, to weave into the documentary as it pertains to NGOs, et al. But I will start a third thread in the Projects sections for you to peruse, asking of the members what they would like to see in the doc. Therefore, all the suggestions would be in a single thread, whereupon you'll maintain the official thread (perhaps this is it), and I'll man the donation arm, again as it only relates to Bitcoin 100 and none of the other funding. No other addresses will be set up to collect donations by me in The Bitcoin Documentary's name. Only the address you've provided will be utilized.

One last major change, and that's the maximum dollar amount aspect. I've previous stated that all the funds currently residing in our coffers would go toward the making of the documentary provided a certain criteria's met, $10K of which going to actual charities. One aspect of the criteria was having your team doing most of the legwork. Since that is no longer the case due to it being impractical, I have bestowed that burden unto myself. That act alone causes us to no longer guarantee the entire pool.

The only way you would receive less than $10K from Bitcoin 100 is if the exchange rate spirals downward before the end of April, and the grand total did not come to $20K USD. If that'll be the case, all of the funds would still be allocated for this cause with the exception of a 1 BTC.

The maximum now that we'll transfer out for this project will only be $20,000, whereas before it had a potential of being $20K+. It equates to $10,000 USD max that you'll end up with, broken down the same way as before: namely, for each charity embedding a Bitcoin donation button onto their respective website, they'll receive $1,000, and you'll immediately receive $500; if at the end of April all ten are obtained, another $4,000 heads your way ($1K (initial) + $5K ($500 X 10) + $4K (remainder) = $10K (total); plus the dollar sum from all those betting, so to speak, that we can't do it (e.g., $500 per entity times 10 minimum equals $5K); and hopefully another $1K from The Bitcoin Foundation pledging (again, betting, so to speak) that we can't get 10 charities before the end of April AND get at least ten entities to pledge AND get at least $5K pledged from as many entities needed to surpass said figure.

Basically, that's what thread one will consist of--garnering support prior to augment the main drive (thread two). If I did the math correctly, with all the goals met there'll be no less than $16,000 I hope to raise for this crazy documentary idea, produced by four (five) wild and crazy guys with accents.

Again, just assure me that you'll show prominence to ten charities if we secure them. If so, I'm moving forward with what's outlined above, unless you believe something needs addressing.

~Bruno K~
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March 20, 2013, 09:33:37 PM
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Haven't heard too many suggestions so far Lips sealed

As promised in my mega post above, I created a thread for just this very thing: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=12.0

I, in now way, am connected with this endeavor, but am doing everything within my power to help them bring this venerable documentary to fruition.

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March 21, 2013, 12:01:38 AM
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UPDATE: First Pic from Vienna interviews



This pic comes fresh from the cam and has NOT been edited yet!
So please be patient and check back in a couple of days for the first brushed up sneak peeks of our Vienna interviews!
Always first in our blog!
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March 21, 2013, 12:16:51 AM
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Haven't heard too many suggestions so far Lips sealed

As promised in my mega post above, I created a thread for just this very thing: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=12.0

I, in now way, am connected with this endeavor, but am doing everything within my power to help them bring this venerable documentary to fruition.

~Bruno K~

Thanx Bruno,


Ill give it another Mega read tomorrow;)
Too tired right now, but I like it.

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March 21, 2013, 05:43:44 AM
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Just a suggestion, so please feel free to take it or leave it. But I think you might discuss what email did to the post office, as an example of how bitcoin might effect banks.

Instant free messaging, independent of the Post Office.
Instant free money transactions, independent of banks,.

I think its an opportunity to get a profound point across to your audience.
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March 21, 2013, 10:24:09 PM
Last edit: March 21, 2013, 10:38:37 PM by Phinnaeus Gage
 #107

Haven't heard too many suggestions so far Lips sealed

As promised in my mega post above, I created a thread for just this very thing: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=12.0

I, in now way, am connected with this endeavor, but am doing everything within my power to help them bring this venerable documentary to fruition.

~Bruno K~

Thanx Bruno,


Ill give it another Mega read tomorrow;)
Too tired right now, but I like it.

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Your welcome, Johannes.

Now, on to phase two of my self-imposed three-part commitment, that being phase one of the two-part fund drive. Hopefully, it won't receive the same lackluster response as the bring-on-your-ideas thread.

Once penned, I'll post the link in this thread.

Meanwhile, all, please consider backing this project in whatever means you're capable of doing, even if only offering up suggestions.
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March 22, 2013, 05:02:46 AM
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Apologies for the bump, but... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=156295.0
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March 22, 2013, 05:44:26 AM
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I met the guys behind the documentary in Vienna this week. They are really doing this and they are working hard on a really tight budget.

Please consider to donate.

When I met them they had been driving since 3AM from somewhere north of Berlin (quite a trip) to do two interviews. Saving money on transportation and hotel.

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March 22, 2013, 06:35:25 AM
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I met the guys behind the documentary in Vienna this week. They are really doing this and they are working hard on a really tight budget.

Please consider to donate.

When I met them they had been driving since 3AM from somewhere north of Berlin (quite a trip) to do two interviews. Saving money on transportation and hotel.

Let 'em suffer! In a couple days, Josh'll send them a quarter to buy a bath.  Grin

Seriously, I'm shooting Rassah a PM now to send $1,000 USD worth of BTC as promised to help them out.

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Thanks! This makes proud to be in the Bitcoin 100.

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UPDATE: Easter in Bratislava!

Hi, just letting everybody know that our team will spend the easter holidays in Bratislava (from 29.03. till 02.04) for some interviews and get togethers at the local hackspace (progressbar) and elswhere, then on the 2nd of April attending a Bitcoin-get-together in Vienna's Metalab, then back home to eat all the eggs!

More infotainment, as always in our blog!
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Maybe the guys can do an interview with the legendary Phinnaeus GageGrin


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March 22, 2013, 07:07:26 PM
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Maybe the guys can do an interview with the legendary Phinnaeus GageGrin

Doon't encourage him. Besides, that wouldn't be too healthy for Phinn, as it would likely cause his already overinflated ego to cause his head to explode.
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Maybe the guys can do an interview with the legendary Phinnaeus GageGrin

Doon't encourage him. Besides, that wouldn't be too healthy for Phinn, as it would likely cause his already overinflated ego to cause his head to explode.

HAHAHA good point!  Tongue


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March 22, 2013, 09:39:36 PM
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Thank you very much for putting so much effort into getting us the dough we need to make this happen!
I really appreciate the amount of work you are committing to shoulder! If only part of what you envision works out, you can be sure to get a top notch Thank You Present from us as well as any other privilege you would like for yourself or Bitcoin 100.

First I would have said, just give us whatever amount you would like to donate and we try to get you some organizations to accept Bitcoin wherever we can. So I was confused at first about the amount of rules you put up there to formalize your commitment.
Now after carefully reading it again I understand that this is not only between us, but everyone that may want to donate or would possibly give more to the cause. It is set up like a bet and because I know how enarmored this community is with bets, I think its a pretty good idea to propose a personal bet to them.

Just to get this straight, you are trying to get at least 10 NGOs/NPOs by the end of April to accept Bitcoin for donations, that formerly havent and no involvement by the Bitcoin -The Documentary- team would be required to meet your target, correct? If we wanted to help out we certainly could aid you in adding to the list of 10, right? As can anyone?

Not wanting to spoiler or anything, but have you got some good candidates set up already? Because what you attempt here seems REALLY ambitious! 10 new organizations means 1 every 3rd day for a whole month!

Cheers,
Johannes

P.S.: Are you located somewhere near Bratislava btw?
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I can't really contribute much at this time but if there was a pre-order page, I'd jump on (providing the price is reasonable).

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I can't really contribute much at this time but if there was a pre-order page, I'd jump on (providing the price is reasonable).

Hi Richy,

There is no pre-order page so to speak, because the final product will be entirely free! If you would like to support the project however and hold something in your hands that others dont, try out our Donation page and Thank You Presents !

Better be quick, before price rises into undefinable hights!
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March 23, 2013, 06:38:36 AM
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Thank you very much for putting so much effort into getting us the dough we need to make this happen!
I really appreciate the amount of work you are committing to shoulder! If only part of what you envision works out, you can be sure to get a top notch Thank You Present from us as well as any other privilege you would like for yourself or Bitcoin 100.

First I would have said, just give us whatever amount you would like to donate and we try to get you some organizations to accept Bitcoin wherever we can. So I was confused at first about the amount of rules you put up there to formalize your commitment.
Now after carefully reading it again I understand that this is not only between us, but everyone that may want to donate or would possibly give more to the cause. It is set up like a bet and because I know how enarmored this community is with bets, I think its a pretty good idea to propose a personal bet to them.

Just to get this straight, you are trying to get at least 10 NGOs/NPOs by the end of April to accept Bitcoin for donations, that formerly havent and no involvement by the Bitcoin -The Documentary- team would be required to meet your target, correct? If we wanted to help out we certainly could aid you in adding to the list of 10, right? As can anyone?

Not wanting to spoiler or anything, but have you got some good candidates set up already? Because what you attempt here seems REALLY ambitious! 10 new organizations means 1 every 3rd day for a whole month!

Cheers,
Johannes

P.S.: Are you located somewhere near Bratislava btw?

To be clear, I only used the word bet to help explain the challenge aspect, and in way try to associate the term with its common meaning.

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Just to get this straight, you are trying to get at least 10 NGOs/NPOs by the end of April to accept Bitcoin for donations, that formerly havent and no involvement by the Bitcoin -The Documentary- team would be required to meet your target, correct?

The goal is to get 10 non-profits by the end of April that do not currently have a Bitcoin donation option embedded on their websites. Changes are, most would never have heard of Bitcoin until they're approached by a Bitcoiner.

During the course of accomplishing that task, I hope to have at least 10 business (or individuals) pledge at least $5,000 USD total between them in the form of a challenge if I accomplish said task.

If I accomplish both of the above (10 non-profits AND at least 10 businesses to pledge $5,000), I desire The Bitcoin Fountion to donate $1,000 USD in bitcoins.


I'm sure the shorten version is now easier read, but if I would have presented this version first, I would still have had to detail the objective.

Apologies to all if my approach came out ass-backwards.

Please feel free to ask me any questions.

BTW, Rassah has sent the $1,000 USD donation. Please let us know if there's a problem with the transaction.

Calling it a Vite, for I need to go back to Chicago in the morning. Wish I knew if Josh was in town, for I would buy him dinner. Seriously!

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March 23, 2013, 02:15:09 PM
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Thanks Bruno & Rassah!

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No problems at all. We will keep you updated with our efforts in making this movie awesome and also how much luck we have in suggesting Bitcoins to not-for-profits.

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Johannes
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