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July 14, 2017, 10:39:55 AM
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5 million playmoney for 0.0009 btc is not a high value.

When you can use the faucet an unlimited amount of times, yes it is. By just constantly playing for the max payout on dice (lowest edge, by the way) you can nab the reward easily. I don't think you really see the problem I'm highlighting.

as for provably fair? you guys change the seed when someone hits spin.

I'm not too experienced in what crypto-games does, but changing the seed every spin is fine. It's also fine to have one seed but incrementing the nonces by n every spin. Either way, you can verify it afterwards to see that indeed, the hash corresponds to the real server seed.

if it was like 1500 5 reel wins since game launch I might believe the provably fair BS. even bitcoin cloud scammers claim to be provably fair. claiming to be provably fair while not having fair and balanced gameplay is meaningless. also calling your victims "Just unlucky" is a cheap way to distance yourself from your scam.

Seems to be like you don't understand how provably fair works. If you knew how it worked then you would realize that in fact you were just unlucky. And scammers can claim to be provably fair but if they don't have proper verification then you know they're lying. CG is not.

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July 14, 2017, 10:44:44 AM
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You can see the proof with the streak calculator using the example in my last post.

For other people reading this:

In my experience, I started with 0.3 eth and turned it into 20 eth in 3 days using a betting strategy without the strategy cracking up, about 100,000 bets.  I was smart and kept withdrawing my money and keeping my balance at a reasonable level, then 4x in a row with less then 1000 bets, the system cracked up.  Somehow there is some manipulation taking place.  I'll be sticking with BITSLER from now on.
Did you use a +EV betting strategy or what kind of betting strategy was it?

I don't want to reveal the strategy and I don't expect it to win all of the time. However, after having it work for 100,000 bets straight and then failing 4x in a row with under 1000 bets each time, I'm lost any trust in crypto-games website.

I was playing poker the other day, I had a royal flush in spades. I got beat by a full house. not possible in a real poker game, so yes, there is manipulation going on on the backend.

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July 14, 2017, 10:47:23 AM
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5 million playmoney for 0.0009 btc is not a high value.

When you can use the faucet an unlimited amount of times, yes it is. By just constantly playing for the max payout on dice (lowest edge, by the way) you can nab the reward easily. I don't think you really see the problem I'm highlighting.

as for provably fair? you guys change the seed when someone hits spin.

I'm not too experienced in what crypto-games does, but changing the seed every spin is fine. It's also fine to have one seed but incrementing the nonces by n every spin. Either way, you can verify it afterwards to see that indeed, the hash corresponds to the real server seed.

if it was like 1500 5 reel wins since game launch I might believe the provably fair BS. even bitcoin cloud scammers claim to be provably fair. claiming to be provably fair while not having fair and balanced gameplay is meaningless. also calling your victims "Just unlucky" is a cheap way to distance yourself from your scam.

Seems to be like you don't understand how provably fair works. If you knew how it worked then you would realize that in fact you were just unlucky. And scammers can claim to be provably fair but if they don't have proper verification then you know they're lying. CG is not.

How many 5 reel wins did you have in slots? I'm willing to bet zero, no one you know had a 5 reel win, because it doesn't happen to non employees.

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July 14, 2017, 10:56:58 AM
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How many 5 reel wins did you have in slots? I'm willing to bet zero, no one you know had a 5 reel win, because it doesn't happen to non employees.

The odds of that seem slim. You know that in slots, all the colors and effects are just that, right?



I'm still telling you, learn how provably fair works. Here, I will demonstrate.

Suppose we are playing slots with just two boxes. Hear me out here.

Behind the scenes, the result for each box is based on a random number generation from 0 to 99.

If you roll 0-49, it results in an empty box. If you roll 50-99, it results in a cherry.

Thus, for you to have two cherries, you need both boxes to have a roll >=50



How provably fair works is that the number they use in their algorithm is hashed and sent to you. Let's say that the number I use is 7056 and all I do is take the first two and last two numbers as the roll result for the boxes. This means that if for example I used SHA-256 as a hash and sent to you the server hash, which would be fbf0c029676f97872638b20cc6933c5c3150a2f4270d5fdc5f72af5dce0405c2, you could later receive the actual server seed which is 7056 and plug it into the SHA-256 algorithm to find that 7056 hashes into the hash that was given.

This proves that the numbers were predesignated and the result was decided before your actions.

Now if you're thinking, "why does this even matter," then you need to realize that you have a choice in actions that can affect how much you win.

If you change how much you bet - whether you bet on winning rolls or not - while all rolls are predetermined, you can turn a profit despite the house edge. And just to clarify, predetermined rolls =/= not random because most algorithms require you to input a client seed in which you can designate. This way it's actually impossible for them to cheat. (I'm pretty sure CG has client seeds in slots)

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July 14, 2017, 10:57:27 AM
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manipulation on slots can be proven. the method is simple, they've scripted it so that if 4 reels match the 5th will advance one ahead making a 5 reel match impossible (for instance you get 4 playmoneys and one orange etc every time) also they did another little dirty trick, say you get 4 oranges and a litecoin on a 10 bet, you only get paid 100 when you should get 100 for the 4 oranges and 11 for the litecoin for a total of 111. they're using a very old trick that's been used alot on hardware slot machines to make a 5 reel win impossible.

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July 14, 2017, 11:00:57 AM
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manipulation on slots can be proven. the method is simple, they've scripted it so that if 4 reels match the 5th will advance one ahead making a 5 reel match impossible

Slots show you near-misses to get you hooked for visual stimulation. The 5 reel match is typically rare so on the 4 reel matches, they try to get you to go for the jackpot by making you think you just barely missed the big win.

THAT is the real manipulation of slots.

they're using a very old trick that's been used alot on hardware slot machines to make a 5 reel win impossible.

Provably fair software =/= hardware

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July 14, 2017, 06:45:44 PM
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I have no idea who Lupton is, but I can say I too got screwed over by crypto-games.net.
It's spelled "Lutpin". Note it down.

but I can say I too got screwed over by crypto-games.net.
"too" implies anyone else got, which didn't happen.
Neither were you, I suspect.

the slots are rigged to high hell.
The slots are provably fair.

you shouldn't have to wait 3 minutes to withdraw from the playmoney faucet, that's their in house currency and has no real value even in house.  
Playmoney can be exchanged using the built-in exchange feature and does have real value, especially in-house.

as for provably fair? you guys change the seed when someone hits spin.
You can't prove that, can you? Oh right, nobody can, because it does not happen.
There's a new seed for every game, but as you are shown the hash of that seed before every bet and can change your client seed, things are provably fair.

even bitcoin cloud scammers claim to be provably fair. claiming to be provably fair while not having fair and balanced gameplay is meaningless.
That's why CGs system was verified by several independent parties for review.

no one you know had a 5 reel win, because it doesn't happen to non employees.
Fun fact: CG does not have any employees.

the method is simple, they've scripted it so that if 4 reels match the 5th will advance one ahead making a 5 reel match impossible
There's been 13 slot jackpots (5 reel matches) this month, so clearly, it's impossible (https://www.crypto-games.net/bet/slot/12002582).

also they did another little dirty trick, say you get 4 oranges and a litecoin on a 10 bet, you only get paid 100 when you should get 100 for the 4 oranges and 11 for the litecoin for a total of 111.
In case of a double win, the higher reward is paid. That is calculated into the house edge and publicly communicated. Not a dirty little trick.

manipulation on slots can be proven.
I'm waiting.


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October 02, 2017, 07:56:51 AM
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Could be a scam site! I'm trying to withdraw 3500 dogecoins(well above the required minimum) and I just keep getting a message, saying "failed to send
confirmation email" - thought I'd report this!

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October 02, 2017, 04:47:04 PM
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Could be a scam site! I'm trying to withdraw 3500 dogecoins(well above the required minimum) and I just keep getting a message, saying "failed to send
confirmation email" - thought I'd report this!
And you figured to call something scam before contacting their support or checking if the problem is on your end?


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November 08, 2017, 10:21:43 AM
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They don't scam people directly. But there are passive things they do. Also, fuck Lutpin. His ego is the size of a skyscraper. Asshole goes off and insults just about every country outside his own (He's German) and especially hates americans. I had to listen to it, then when I said the same sterotype about his country he gets all bent. Who wants proof of this racist (or nationalist) asshole. Only proves my point and insult to his country that he's a Nazi lover (hey, when you think Germany is better than all others... what do you think you're proving?)

Then we have their other Mod. Roadcrypto literally told me that I was stealing his money for winning off a faucet claim. I won a ~10,000 to 1 odds and then made a withdrawl. God damn the man was pissed. It's his investor money. I still have screenshots of that too. Don't ever have a positive win rate there seems to be the conclusion. He should be thankful I didn't wager a descent deposit money amount with those kind of odds, it would been more substantial than ~$5 USD win (try more like $50,000). I would have been treated like I robbed a bank. I have screenshots of this Mod's words too. Shouldn't be a moderator by a mile. He's very hostile to many people. Don't ever mention winnings around him or have polite chat. I've seen way to many condescending remarks out of his mouth.

But anyways... to the point at hand. Minimum withdrawl for Dodge was only 1000 a month ago. Yesterday it was 3000. Today it's 11412. I find it funny that just yesterday I was on their page looking up all the withdraw amounts; then the following day, today, all but BTC have gone up. Fancy that. Unannounced too. They also ret-conned their FAQ on what the withdraw minimum is. I have an old picture of it from yesterday.

So... yeah. There's a racist mod (Lutpin), a greedy and arrogant mod / investor (Roadcrypto), and they don't fully disclose when they change things behind the scenes.

Take that as you will. If Lutpin barges in here. I'll be happy to post his screenshots comments about France, Swiss, America, Australia and a few others I've recorded over several days. He's not even joking about it (no one is laughing). He can try to backpedal and say he was joking all he wants. But when he flew off the handle and insulted my American Right to free speech and how he hates it. He just comes across as a tyrant. Fancy that. Moderators are one of your first representation of your company, and these are not that.

PS: Joking or not, Lutpin you don't make racist comments.
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November 08, 2017, 11:22:11 AM
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So changing minimum amounts is a scam now?

Minimum withdrawl for Dodge was only 1000 a month ago. Yesterday it was 3000. Today it's 11412. I find it funny that just yesterday I was on their page looking up all the withdraw amounts; then the following day, today, all but BTC have gone up.
Because all minimums now adjust to the BTC equivalent and are the same as BTC, 0.002BTC worth of.

They also ret-conned their FAQ on what the withdraw minimum is.
I see, keeping the information provided in a FAQ correct and up to date is "ret-conning".

PS: Joking or not, Lutpin you don't make racist comments.
I concur.


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November 08, 2017, 07:24:19 PM
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PS: Joking or not, Lutpin you don't make racist comments.
I concur.
Agree

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Screenshot your bet please
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January 09, 2018, 05:16:31 PM
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My dealings with this site is not too good...

I find that playing the blackjack game with small bets (free coins) you get ok hands and dealer breaks sometimes BUT if you dare to bet big, the software knows somehow and you get screwed every time.

I'v never seen a dealer hit so many 21's in my life.

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My dealings with this site is not too good...

I find that playing the blackjack game with small bets (free coins) you get ok hands and dealer breaks sometimes BUT if you dare to bet big, the software knows somehow and you get screwed every time.

I'v never seen a dealer hit so many 21's in my life.
Change client seed when you bet big and you will be fine.
I did that many times and guess what - if you are unlucky you are unlucky, nothing can help you. Lol.
It's random, new game new deck and with that said everything is possible.

Research provably fair system, house edge, EV- and all other gambling....things.

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January 09, 2018, 09:51:38 PM
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My dealings with this site is not too good...

I find that playing the blackjack game with small bets (free coins) you get ok hands and dealer breaks sometimes BUT if you dare to bet big, the software knows somehow and you get screwed every time.

I'v never seen a dealer hit so many 21's in my life.
Change client seed when you bet big and you will be fine.
I did that many times and guess what - if you are unlucky you are unlucky, nothing can help you. Lol.
It's random, new game new deck and with that said everything is possible.

Research provably fair system, house edge, EV- and all other gambling....things.

Whoah.

Rational.

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Guys! SCAM ALERT! Mods are very rude, will mute you for any reason you give, if you give an advice to a player on how to play and it's a good advice, casinos moderators will insult you, it's not your business, when you argue retard moderator like lutpin, cryptoroad, everyone there will call you a crybaby, go tell your mom, still crying about it and words like that to really disrespect you! Then once you respond the same manner, they will say that you are rude to the moderators and will mute you or even permanently ban you! SCAM ALLLLLLLLLLLLERRRRRRRRRT!
Moderators are treating people like they are ants! Will mute you without a warning for half hour, 1 hour, just to enjoy, then they are good at trolling, laughing over users, so so so BAD CASINO! Unless you go totally retard, don't play there!
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Moderators are treating people like they are ants!

Ants in an ant farm?

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i played dice, and chance to win 97%. but 10 lose in a row

Not even that worse, seen -15 but also +17 in a row.
Its a luck thing not crypto-games who is scamming you.

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April 06, 2018, 09:08:38 AM
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Could be a scam site! I'm trying to withdraw 3500 dogecoins(well above the required minimum) and I just keep getting a message, saying "failed to send
confirmation email" - thought I'd report this!
And you figured to call something scam before contacting their support or checking if the problem is on your end?



yeah sorta something like you giving neg. trust to luckygames owner cuz of a fake complaint.

never following up just letting a dice site owner who did nothing wrong with neg 2 trust for all to see


at least yahoo took back his -2 trust he gave at LG first. cuz he read up  on it a few days later and agreed LG owner did nothing wrong.


must be nice for a dice site give neg. trust to other dice sites . and the they can't fight back




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