Crypto-Games.net - scam!

[KingOfBet]

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Main aim of signature is to promote something or to send a message to whole bitcoin community. Your signature doesn't has any proof. Anyone watching that signature will always consider as a troll and nothing else. Better at this point of time you accept the scam accusation against you instead of creating drama which only shows how much butthurt and devastated you are.

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[b][color=red]Provably fair is scam! [/b][/color]

[DCP]

I AGREE WITH CRYPTO-GAMES BEING A SCAM SITE

I've had some bad experiences with crypto-games.net also.  Very very unlikely streaks have happened. I WILL NEVER PLAY THERE AGAIN.

Regarding the original thread, check out this streak calculator tool
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/tools/streak-calculator/


Put in probability of loss 3%,  now put in streak length 10, series length 1,000,000

guess what ?!!  0.00% probability.

I think this merits proof unless someone can say that the streak calculator is flawed.

[Lutpin]

I AGREE WITH CRYPTO-GAMES BEING A SCAM SITE
I've had some bad experiences with crypto-games.net also.  Very very unlikely streaks have happened.

Wanna show the bets here, especially the provably fair parts of them. I'd like to see one that doesn't verify as being provably fair.
If all bets verify and are provably fair, I fail to see how the site is a scam.

I think this merits proof unless someone can say that the streak calculator is flawed.

No, proof would be showing bets that are not provably fair. If you can't, you don't have any proof.

[DCP]

You can see the proof with the streak calculator using the example in my last post.

For other people reading this:

In my experience, I started with 0.3 eth and turned it into 20 eth in 3 days using a betting strategy without the strategy cracking up, about 100,000 bets.  I was smart and kept withdrawing my money and keeping my balance at a reasonable level, then 4x in a row with less then 1000 bets, the system cracked up.  Somehow there is some manipulation taking place.  I'll be sticking with BITSLER from now on.

[game-protect]

You can see the proof with the streak calculator using the example in my last post.

For other people reading this:

In my experience, I started with 0.3 eth and turned it into 20 eth in 3 days using a betting strategy without the strategy cracking up, about 100,000 bets.  I was smart and kept withdrawing my money and keeping my balance at a reasonable level, then 4x in a row with less then 1000 bets, the system cracked up.  Somehow there is some manipulation taking place.  I'll be sticking with BITSLER from now on.

Did you use a +EV betting strategy or what kind of betting strategy was it?

[DCP]

You can see the proof with the streak calculator using the example in my last post.

For other people reading this:

In my experience, I started with 0.3 eth and turned it into 20 eth in 3 days using a betting strategy without the strategy cracking up, about 100,000 bets.  I was smart and kept withdrawing my money and keeping my balance at a reasonable level, then 4x in a row with less then 1000 bets, the system cracked up.  Somehow there is some manipulation taking place.  I'll be sticking with BITSLER from now on.

Did you use a +EV betting strategy or what kind of betting strategy was it?

I don't want to reveal the strategy and I don't expect it to win all of the time. However, after having it work for 100,000 bets straight and then failing 4x in a row with under 1000 bets each time, I'm lost any trust in crypto-games website.

[actmyname]

I AGREE WITH CRYPTO-GAMES BEING A SCAM SITE

I've had some bad experiences with crypto-games.net also.  Very very unlikely streaks have happened. I WILL NEVER PLAY THERE AGAIN.

Regarding the original thread, check out this streak calculator tool
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/tools/streak-calculator/


Put in probability of loss 3%,  now put in streak length 10, series length 1,000,000

guess what ?!!  0.00% probability.

I think this merits proof unless someone can say that the streak calculator is flawed.

Are you an idiot?

You can't seriously believe that it is literally impossible to reach that streak within that amount of bets.

Here, let me show you some basic statistics.

If the probability of loss is 3%, then we can express that as a fraction: 3/100. If the streak length is 10, then you need 10 of those bets in a row. Which would be 3/100 to the power of 10, otherwise known as 59,049/10E20 (59049 over 10 to the 20)

Since this streak may occur at any bet number below or equal to 999990 (since your cap is 1 million) you can multiply the above fraction by that amount to find the probability of such a streak.

That becomes 5904840951 divided by 10^19, which is a non-zero value.

This expressed as a percentage is 0.00000005904840951% which means that it is possible to reach such a streak.


Moreover, just because an outcome is unlikely does not mean that it is impossible.

I don't want to reveal the strategy and I don't expect it to win all of the time. However, after having it work for 100,000 bets straight and then failing 4x in a row with under 1000 bets each time, I'm lost any trust in crypto-games website.

As time goes on, you approach the expected value, which is a value less than 1 due to the house edge.

No strategy is winning and this is mathematically proven.

[Lutpin]

However, after having it work for 100,000 bets straight and then failing 4x in a row with under 1000 bets each time

That's what we call variance.
-> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variance
Or if you need a more beginner friendly text
-> https://www.askgamblers.com/understanding-variance-in-casino-games-n5047

[DCP]

I AGREE WITH CRYPTO-GAMES BEING A SCAM SITE

I've had some bad experiences with crypto-games.net also.  Very very unlikely streaks have happened. I WILL NEVER PLAY THERE AGAIN.

Regarding the original thread, check out this streak calculator tool
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/tools/streak-calculator/


Put in probability of loss 3%,  now put in streak length 10, series length 1,000,000

guess what ?!!  0.00% probability.

I think this merits proof unless someone can say that the streak calculator is flawed.

Are you an idiot?

You can't seriously believe that it is literally impossible to reach that streak within that amount of bets.

Here, let me show you some basic statistics.

If the probability of loss is 3%, then we can express that as a fraction: 3/100. If the streak length is 10, then you need 10 of those bets in a row. Which would be 3/100 to the power of 10, otherwise known as 59,049/10E20 (59049 over 10 to the 20)

Since this streak may occur at any bet number below or equal to 999990 (since your cap is 1 million) you can multiply the above fraction by that amount to find the probability of such a streak.

That becomes 5904840951 divided by 10^19, which is a non-zero value.

This expressed as a percentage is 0.00000005904840951% which means that it is possible to reach such a streak........

Wow, good for you to call people idiots. You must be very intelligent lol.  Here you can see using this streak calculator tool:
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/tools/streak-calculator/



THE ODDS AFTER 10 MILLION BETS OF LOSING 10X IN A ROW WITH 3% LOSS PROBABILITY ARE 0.000%

It's obvious that there is a possibility to lose at some point well after 10 million, but I highly doubt the person who started this thread made that many bets..

ps, I won't be surprised to see Lutpin bringing in all his friends to dispute this,  paying people off, etc.


EDIT FOR ACTMYNAME:  ok, I see your logic now, it is possible, even though its ridiculously unlikely... 

[Lutpin]

ps, I won't be surprised to see Lutpin bringing in all his friends to dispute this, creating fake accounts, paying people off, etc.

I don't have any friends, thanks for pointing out that sore spot.
Also, I'm too poor to pay off people, do you know how much it would cost to bribe actmyname? Insane (donations accepted to the address in my profile).

THE ODDS AFTER 10 MILLION BETS OF LOSING 10X IN A ROW WITH 3% LOSS PROBABILITY ARE 0.000%

The odds are NEVER 0%. Never.
Besides that, OP is a permanently banned extortionist and they never were abled to provide any proof they actually have lost 10 times in a row, so...
But sure, let's all trust the liar

[DCP]

ps, I won't be surprised to see Lutpin bringing in all his friends to dispute this, creating fake accounts, paying people off, etc.

I don't have any friends, thanks for pointing out that sore spot.
Also, I'm too poor to pay off people, do you know how much it would cost to bribe actmyname? Insane (donations accepted to the address in my profile).

THE ODDS AFTER 10 MILLION BETS OF LOSING 10X IN A ROW WITH 3% LOSS PROBABILITY ARE 0.000%

The odds are NEVER 0%. Never.

Ok, I understand. I can accept that variance happening in the once in a blue moon scenario, I still have a bad feeling about your site after all my experiences which I'm not going to detail here,  I'll stick with Bitsler.

I'm curious if other people have feedback about Crypto-games vs Bitsler...


PS,  wealth without friends is really empty,  find some communities in the "real world" with people interested in the same stuff..

[actmyname]

I'm curious if other people have feedback about Crypto-games vs Bitsler...

I honestly don't even play at either very often so I'd consider myself impartial. I like both Lutpin and Baryom as people so that too is balanced.
If you are looking to earn the most out of the site (i.e. playing with the best odds) then you would want to choose Crypto-games's dice game considering they have a 0.8% house edge as opposed to Bitsler's 1% house edge.

Now, of course, both Bitsler and Crypto-games alike offer multiple games apart from basic dice, but overall Crypto-games generally offers a lower house edge than the Bitsler games. Purely based on this merit, I prefer Crypto-games since it offers Blackjack (my favorite game) though it is at a somewhat high edge with its settings. However, if you are seeking to gain profit through affiliates, then Bitsler (as of now) is superior given that they offer 50% of the house edge for each wager whereas Crypto-games offers 25% of the house edge for each wager.


There's probably more to say but both are good for their own reasons.

[DCP]

I'm curious if other people have feedback about Crypto-games vs Bitsler...

I honestly don't even play at either very often so I'd consider myself impartial. I like both Lutpin and Baryom as people so that too is balanced.
If you are looking to earn the most out of the site (i.e. playing with the best odds) then you would want to choose Crypto-games's dice game considering they have a 0.8% house edge as opposed to Bitsler's 1% house edge.

Now, of course, both Bitsler and Crypto-games alike offer multiple games apart from basic dice, but overall Crypto-games generally offers a lower house edge than the Bitsler games. Purely based on this merit, I prefer Crypto-games since it offers Blackjack (my favorite game) though it is at a somewhat high edge with its settings. However, if you are seeking to gain profit through affiliates, then Bitsler (as of now) is superior given that they offer 50% of the house edge for each wager whereas Crypto-games offers 25% of the house edge for each wager.


There's probably more to say but both are good for their own reasons.

I meant feedback between the 2 sites as a player, but good to know that info, I don't plan to be an affiliate or share my methods..

My advice to people, don't listen to the naysayers that its impossible to beat the odds, etc.  Play around with the streak calculator tool I posted, split your bankroll up, expect some variance, you'd be surprised what can result from it 

[roadcrap]

Bitcoin is a scam ~ just sell it all for US dollars and stop gambling.

[actmyname]

My advice to people, don't listen to the naysayers that its impossible to beat the odds, etc.  Play around with the streak calculator tool I posted, split your bankroll up, expect some variance, you'd be surprised what can result from it  

Variance is the only way that people will win.

I stand by this fact: as soon as you place a bet with a house edge, you're already losing. Suppose there is a 1% house edge and your odds are 50-50 with a winning payout of 1.98x your bet. Regardless of whether you win or not, half of the time you are returned 0 and half of the time you are returned 1.98. This means that on average you lose 1% of your wager.

This can be turned into another kind of game which is statistically identical to this type of wager but variance is no part of it:

For every 1 you wager, I will return to you 0.99


In typical gambling, there is variance, but don't fool yourself into thinking you can win in the long run - or at all. As soon as you wager, you're already losing.


This is not to say that you can't win when you gamble - of course you may hit lucky streaks - but overall you will find that there will be a slow decline and that the more you play, the more you lose.

Wager your bankroll, you'll have a return of 0.99 (times your bankroll).
Wager that, and you'll have a total of 0.9801.
Continue, and your balance will approach 0.

I meant feedback between the 2 sites as a player, but good to know that info, I don't plan to be an affiliate or share my methods..

All that is significant are the games and house edge differences.

[DCP]

My advice to people, don't listen to the naysayers that its impossible to beat the odds, etc.  Play around with the streak calculator tool I posted, split your bankroll up, expect some variance, you'd be surprised what can result from it  

Variance is the only way that people will win.

I stand by this fact: as soon as you place a bet with a house edge, you're already losing. Suppose there is a 1% house edge and your odds are 50-50 with a winning payout of 1.98x your bet. Regardless of whether you win or not, half of the time you are returned 0 and half of the time you are returned 1.98. This means that on average you lose 1% of your wager.

This can be turned into another kind of game which is statistically identical to this type of wager but variance is no part of it:

For every 1 you wager, I will return to you 0.99


In typical gambling, there is variance, but don't fool yourself into thinking you can win in the long run - or at all. As soon as you wager, you're already losing.


This is not to say that you can't win when you gamble - of course you may hit lucky streaks - but overall you will find that there will be a slow decline and that the more you play, the more you lose.

Wager your bankroll, you'll have a return of 0.99 (times your bankroll).
Wager that, and you'll have a total of 0.9801.
Continue, and your balance will approach 0.

I meant feedback between the 2 sites as a player, but good to know that info, I don't plan to be an affiliate or share my methods..

All that is significant are the games and house edge differences.

This is the conventional logic and it is correct. However, you need to think way outside of the box. I'm sure I'm not the only person who has devised a winning method by thinking outside the box and understanding probabilities.  And, anyone like me who is smart or lucky enough to create a +ev method isn't going to be sharing it in some crappy ebook. Because if everybody did it, there would be no game.  I can double my account every day in a few hours.  I spent thousands of hours to get here, and a lot of rage and frustration along the way. Anyway, the grey hairs were worth it. To anyone who is extremely persistent and able to use that streak calculator tool and think outside the box, you may be able to find an advantage..

[j7777]

I have no idea who Lupton is, but I can say I too got screwed over by crypto-games.net. 7 spins out of 10, you get nothing, 2 spins out of 10 you might get one coin, the third spin you might get 2, maybe 3 reels. I've never hit more than 4 reels and only on low bets. they won't let you win big (all 5 reels) and they won't let you high roll, they'll run your money out and force you to bet 50 or smaller (forcing you to take a smaller payout). that's a typical casino scam. the slots are rigged to high hell. and for the love of christ do you really need a fucking timer on the playmoney faucet? Jesus man. you shouldn't have to wait 3 minutes to withdraw from the playmoney faucet, that's their in house currency and has no real value even in house. 

[actmyname]

I have no idea who Lupton is, but I can say I too got screwed over by crypto-games.net. 7 spins out of 10, you get nothing, 2 spins out of 10 you might get one coin, the third spin you might get 2, maybe 3 reels. I've never hit more than 4 reels and only on low bets. they won't let you win big (all 5 reels) and they won't let you high roll, they'll run your money out and force you to bet 50 or smaller (forcing you to take a smaller payout). that's a typical casino scam. the slots are rigged to high hell.

Provably fair. Maybe if you bothered to check that, you would understand you're just unlucky.
Also, slots has a huge house edge.

And betting big or small has literally no effect on how you do luck-wise. All that matters is the house edge. Whether you do 100 bets at 50 or 1 bet at 5000, you have the same ev. Now obviously, one of those options would have a higher degree of fluctuation due to variance.

and for the love of christ do you really need a fucking timer on the playmoney faucet? Jesus man. you shouldn't have to wait 3 minutes to withdraw from the playmoney faucet, that's their in house currency and has no real value even in house. 

Playmoney has value in Crypto-games and can be exchanged for bitcoins in a high enough value. Not setting a timer on that would just lead to people running the site dry. And are you really complaining about a faucet?

[j7777]

I have no idea who Lupton is, but I can say I too got screwed over by crypto-games.net. 7 spins out of 10, you get nothing, 2 spins out of 10 you might get one coin, the third spin you might get 2, maybe 3 reels. I've never hit more than 4 reels and only on low bets. they won't let you win big (all 5 reels) and they won't let you high roll, they'll run your money out and force you to bet 50 or smaller (forcing you to take a smaller payout). that's a typical casino scam. the slots are rigged to high hell.

Provably fair. Maybe if you bothered to check that, you would understand you're just unlucky.
Also, slots has a huge house edge.

And betting big or small has literally no effect on how you do luck-wise. All that matters is the house edge. Whether you do 100 bets at 50 or 1 bet at 5000, you have the same ev. Now obviously, one of those options would have a higher degree of fluctuation due to variance.

and for the love of christ do you really need a fucking timer on the playmoney faucet? Jesus man. you shouldn't have to wait 3 minutes to withdraw from the playmoney faucet, that's their in house currency and has no real value even in house.  

Playmoney has value in Crypto-games and can be exchanged for bitcoins in a high enough value. Not setting a timer on that would just lead to people running the site dry. And are you really complaining about a faucet?

5 million playmoney for 0.0009 btc is not a high value. as for provably fair? you guys change the seed when someone hits spin. provably fair is more than 22 5 reel wins since game launch....if it was like 1500 5 reel wins since game launch I might believe the provably fair BS. even bitcoin cloud scammers claim to be provably fair. claiming to be provably fair while not having fair and balanced gameplay is meaningless. also calling your victims "Just unlucky" is a cheap way to distance yourself from your scam.